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I wouldnt mind Jyunhao being in but that probably means Yeongue is out? And I really want Yeongue to make it too. :( Also Yunseo is really a multilingual king, he also spoke some Japanese in diary cams etc. Really dont like the need to have an official visual in the group, but I know its kpop so... :') For me personally it would probably also be Doyoung and I really like Jihoons visuals as well, but I dont know what Koreans want.

Yes, and maybe/hopefully not alone.

quarter 3 according to that report posted above

Woke up at 2:50 am (which is like 10:50 am kst) and waited on twitter for the announcement. Almost screamed when Mashiho got announced and tbh I also couldnt hold my tears back. It was such a relieving moment tbh and while I was 99,99% sure he would be in I honestly never thought he would be announced second. Thankfully it still happened. :') After that i started reading here starting from where I left yesterday (wonder how many pages it was) and when you already know who made it its so funny to follow these discussion here haha. Like everyone guessing the hints and then everyone was already congratulating doyoung when suddenly Mashiho popped up... Ah its only 4 am in the morning and i am super happy, tired but happy yes and relieved!! How about a group hug? We endured well.

Wow, i cant believe I let this show impact my feelings and even my mental health so much. I do not believe the rumours but constantly hearing about it (not just here) makes me anxious, i just cant help it. I really love reading here and writing about it so I wont be able to completely stay away, but I guess taking a small step back would be good. If there is anyone here who is similarly affected, please take care and dont hesitate to take a step back. A show like this is not worth all the pain and stress its putting us through. :')

The amount of upvotes (currently 12) say everything!!

Me too. Yesterday I would have said that just Mashiho and Yoonbin making it is enough to make me happy but I now have added Yeongue to that list. I .. I just need him to make it. Vocals great, performances great, love his personality, hes just too sweet and precious, there is no way to not love him Click here to view the Tweet Click here to view the Tweet his "bye bye"s Hoping he will make it so he can be this groups maknae and main vocal. He would shine so much

Agree with this. I think what is important is how we deal with hate, drama... and where we put our focus to (like rather towards the love and support than the hate). Obviously we cant control what other people do and say but each of us plays a little part in the whole thing. Maybe it will already help if we dont constantly bring up Winkon and how this is gonna be them. Its almost like we are asking for it to happen... I know that things are messy in the fandom but the way i see it its not really fans of group 1 vs fans of group 2, so that already makes it different and I just have this tiny hope that once both line ups are announced things will calm down as people start to accept everything.

Yes I know. I know I am being too positive and optimistic, rather than realistic and obviously when I am talking about change it should also apply to YGs other groups as well... I guess I am just hoping for a miracle for the boys that I really treasure (look what I did there). Like something hitting (not really physically, i am against violence even in this case) YG and him changing his ways. Tbh I dont get why he is the way it is. He is not even thinking about the money because obviously he could make so much more money if his groups released stuff more frequently. Just why? Super frustrating tbh ... especially considering how much this all affects all of his artists, those that deserve it the least. This is my first yg group(s) so i think its still hard to accept the reality of how things work in here... good god

True, I thought about that too. So maybe Mashiho first and then the second Japanese member (if there is one) so until the third person we won't know where its heading.

We all know he talked a lot about how he regrets letting xx and xx go and I think that is why he chose to debut 2 groups. He saw so much talent and feared he would be missing out if he let any of them go. This is understandable but the question if this will be an overall better desicion is another. Maybe he wont be missing out on some people but other problems will arise instead that will come back to bite him. Anyway I am still pretty optimistic that things will somehow work out (cant believe after all this mess but I feel like I have to be for the sake of the boys), but for that to be the case some things probably have to change. I hope YG realises how much potential there is and does his best to work hard on making these two groups big. Even if it includes doing things he usually wouldnt do and going out of his comfort zone. Also regarding their debut dates, i was wondering if maybe they wont be debuting too close to each other but instead will have one debut around summer this year and maybe the other in Winter, half a year later, so that both can get their chances at winning ROTY awards without being each others competition?

I hope it is either one of them but I feel like YG will continue the suffering and announce someone else first, maybe Jihoon or Doyoung

Click here to view the Tweet Just realised the tags #KeitaBetterDebut haha

OT4 as in Mashiho, Yoonbin, Jihoon and Doyoung? And yes I agree with you here.

Yes but then again we also didnt think they would announce a second group yet here we are so maybe something unexpected will happen here again. I see your point tho and either way is fine for me. Also if there will most likely be a second rapper then that means that Keitas chances are a bit bigger so yeah... definitely not mad about that.

YES, main vocal and maknae Yeongue to the rise. Also I wonder if the Cfans rumours are true... lets say they are then the group got everything covered.. from korean, japanese, chinese to international fandom. They could be very powerful. That would also mean Yoonbin will be the only rapper but I think it will be fine, he will work it out + in absolute emergencys Mashiho could always take over some rap lines as well.. Together they would be able to rap in korean, english and japanese... powerful! In the end I am pretty happy with whoever gets in, as long as Mashiho and Yoonbin are part of the group, which honestly they just have to be at this point. My three faves are Yeongue, Keita and Mashiho so having all of them join would obviously be a dream but yes I really think i will be happy either way. Jihoon or Yoonbin? Who do you think will most likely be leader? I think we cant deny Yoonbins qualities as a leader but Jihoon has qualities too and has maybe some advantages because he trained longer and is also Team Bs leader.

Many also doubt its Team J because he posted it in english and korean, but there could be other reasons for that too. I think we will just have to wait and see... All this is killing me tbh because this is stressful enough already but I also have like 4 exams in the next few days so that makes everything even worse. If I fail them I can blame YG, can't I?

https://www.vlive.tv/video/111079

For me Keita was always the definition of cute ... when he made that call video and named himself pocket boy? i fell even more in love with him and his cuteness. I hope he doesnt mind that and embraces his cute side. Some idols dont like being called cute and insist on being cool but I often see people as both because I dont think one excludes the other. Mashiho is really cute too ... they all are in their own ways tbh. Wow I love them

Hopefully and before that as well, because I doubt the debut will be anytime soon. I dont want to ask for the impossible but like if they just disappear for weeks or even months it won't do them any good so yg better allow them to do casual vlives and twitter updates.

Do you think we will get a new twitter acc or will they just keep the ygtb one for them? Can we expect some twitter updates before debut? How about vlive? Do yg groups have fancafe or something like that? Since I am still very very new to yg groups I have so many questions. I know the show only ended a few days ago but now that the official name is out I hope they will also release official accounts where they can keep us updated and where we might communicate with them... even tho on second thought maybe its better they dont have anything open yet with all the hate they are currently getting. Its a conflict because I want to regularly see them and also think its important they update us but as soon as they use social media they will also be more exposed to all the uglies out there...

Thank you for putting all my thoughts into words. I really agree with everything mentioned Lets wait a few more weeks, if it still isnt better by then then we can start worrying but for now we shouldnt overthink or look too deep into it. For our own sake as well.

If its really them do you think that this confirms they left YG?

Didnt yoonbin help him with writing his raps? or was it something else he helped him with? I thought thats how HaHa line came to life.