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When the Q's seem really obvious I always wonder if there is a trick question! Though I dont think they would over complicate it! Mino was really beside himself when his phone was in repair during BoM activities, he couldn't afford a temporary replacement or a new one! *-* He's come a long way but he is essentially still the same,still worried about looking overly round faced! I probably wouldn't have had a bias in Winner since its hard to separate Winner members like that, they are all equally amiable, however Zico on the Block Mixtape vol 1, I think back in 2010 piqued my interest. Mino & Zico Who am I, used a grime sample, it's pretty much like UK Hip Hop. There was 4 My Town, I followed Mino's work ever since. I thought the duo Zico & Mino had oodles of potential. We all know how that turned out and kismet would have it we would get SMTM 4, partnering up once again! I can understand some fans frustration with repeated usage of Dumb and Taehyun gets the repeated Diva tag etc. I've never used the term dumb or diva since it's not in my vocab or slang, but I do use adorkable amongst others as it's all in good jest. Mino loved the fanclub term Never Thinks, the great thing about Mino is he never takes himself too serious and isn't contrived to make himself appear cool, which actually in my my book gives him more cool points! ^^ But I can empathise with you Zizi we all have different sorts of humor, some may certainly get exasperated by it! that is understandable

I didn't go to Oxbridge! I went to uni in Manchester & Liverpool, some of my best years in life, both my second homes. I'm pretty much an ordinary Kpop fan. I came across Winner due to a boy hailing from Yongin ^^ Team A picked me! No one can fault your dedication! Seoul could become your second home! February should have loads in store! Mino fans are probably the most high maintenance in maybe comparison to the rest of the boys of Winner. Barring ^ Elaine of course! and some others! But he has alot of followers on Instagram and there are bound to be some of them who blow hot and cold! I like to believe his core fans are super-duper! who keep an open mind and love Mino for who he really is!

Baby Baby is as smoooooth as good liquor! Taehyun's voice would have a slight sugar on the rim! Yoon is the motley of mixer, Mino's crowning touch stopped me in my tracks, sobering my blooze like a punch in to the gut realization! Straight to the crunch. Jinwoo's sliver of vocal was too quick to peg down, I have a feeling if Hoon does a rap on this it will be very satisfying. 'Baby Baby' is The Blooze. a cocktail of Blues & Booze. You can tell I'm parched! could do with a drink! ^^ Hoon seemed to have knocked everyone's socks with the brush of the lips and the toying advance to it. Candidly, I feel Highgrnd has all the indications of being a Mindie set up, though makes no difference to me.

Yup no doubt a friend of Mino's would be up for it! Most of them seem very loyal to each other. YG on the other hand is a toss of a coin! with tails on both sides! Anyhow super Inner Circle envoy Elaine, you currently in S Korea? Hopefully Winner will have oodles of activity and fan events this 2016!

I am savvy to all of the above when Oh hyuk was on stand by in I'm Him MV he hadn't joined Highgrnd at that point. I'm wondering if it is a different kettle of fish now with Highgrnd deliberately expressing they are not a sub label of YG but an independent label. Oh Hyuk taking part in Winner cover project may confound it's label identity and it's association with YG. It was just food for thought , my point of convergence is Winner, I will be keeping Winner at the nerve center rather than rubbernecking at any likely competition with SM etc it keeps me sanguine. Rather than number one ranking, longevity is prime and hopefully it gets some proper love from the public and airplay.

How likely is it that Oh Hyuk OR Hyukoh, would take part in Winner's project cover? I'm not well versed with Hyukoh's fans I've sporadically listened to Hyukoh's music, however Highgrnd have made a point of separating themselves, as not as a sub label of YG, making a point it is a independent label, maybe due to indie fans reluctance to associate themselves with a major label as YG, as an artists appeal diminishes for many if it does not have indie status. On the surface of it for me I do feel Highgnrd is more of a Mindie establishment , they get the best of both worlds, major contacts but with indie status, I deem Hyukoh are currently Mindie artists, I wonder whether it would put Hyukoh at odds for participating with Winner?

Mino's shenanigans! are a RIOT a minute. Gaaaw Hoon looks super adorable as a child. ^.^ I could delve into this too Mya, but in short the furthest Winner keep away from it the better. Nothing troubled me during 2014 S/S promotions. Hurrah! and three cheers to Ted too! helped Mino through some lonesome times!

WINNER updates!! left right & center!! Sentimental, the glimpse of the MV and the clothes style and attire has me absorbed!! First off Mino's look is funkdafied!! It excites meeee! I know nearly all my fellow Mino fans as usual are continuously infatuated with seeking for prototypical HOT Mino with body form fitted clothes,leather jacket and shades sort of guise, but he can do that in his sleep and for me it gets hollow and only skin deep. I want a character not only centered on a stereotypical rock stud with tasty alluring arms thighs etc! Something that pushes the confines of the modus operandi and look. I'm really glad Mino is not vain and is secure enough to experiment in his 20's, I hope he brings the crab in the MV, with those ruffian sociopathic eyes ^^ Hoon seems to have a fun geek chic look, everyone seems to have a different and interesting character, Jinwoo has the 1960's retro cool look on the drums, kudos Jinwoo for playing and learning the drums. *huge pat on the back* Taehyun has his signature minimalistic chic look with the main element of having his blonde hair and tinted eyebrows and Yoon with the definitive indie rock band guise. With them all having different characters reflected with there attire makes for a less gimicky vibe. Nope! I'm a free spirit! I love and live to air my intoxication of hare brained style art and design.

That is some sound rationale! I forgot UK Jin Kang composed Sentimental as well just like Don't Flirt. Plus with that rationale Exit : E is following S/S 14 footsteps but with a sort of Don't Flirt reggae ska track as one of the title tracks. Its not too experimental from S/S 14 the E Mini album, I hope it becomes more and more surprising as the mini albums will go on. I don't feel YG has put the risky experimental ones in the first mini.

I'm getting abit of a Reggae + Ska vibe & feel from only the little snippet of sentimental.

There or thereabout's, the actuality of social media such as IG etc reflects maybe 1/5th of Winner or anyone else's personality or daily life. We may have a notion Hoon does not have a active life outside YG or other such notions, truth is we never fully acquainted and we gauge by interviews, fan accounts, social media. I hope we remember to try and avoid pigeon hole and typecasting the members too much, I'm sure they will continuously keep surprising us but also in the past I've seen some peoples perceptions of there aficionado's sometimes becomes disparate to what they had derived that they hastily go on to believe that certain person has changed! I'm just digressing has nothing to do with your post Seesu, or anyone's here just something arbitrary that came to mind.

Getting down to the nuts and bolts of the Cover Pre Release, it is a means to an end. It is/was unorthodox chancy and speculative, but the accumulation of all the meager furtherance we got of Winner these past 2 years has eventuated this current present situation of pre release covers. I hope in the end it justifies the means. I forgot to say Mute I enjoyed! your review of Pricked, I pondered whether to do a summary of pricked, however by the time I had got round to it, it would of hit Feb 1st. Off Topic : I didn't think I'd see Christian Bale my acting aficionado in this Winner thread, I'm going shuck and jive and assume that one day there maybe a remote chance of a Winner + Bale cross over in the constellation! Its a long shot but one can always hope. ^^

THANK Yoouuuuu, I'm just a Obi Wannabee. Add that to your signature Maya! ^^ You could do a 'Every time Taehyun is called a Diva' .. too.

I get free shipping vouchers Polly san, in my case a group order is not cheaper though cheers for the info! Mino's MAGNIFIQUE mood board. ^^ Hoon sharing the cutest pair of grandparent's ^.^ Never underestimate a grandmothers needlework!

I would like to think most of the IC's have nothing but only good vibes towards Lee Hi. Sweeetie Cheers, I don't mind paying more on group order if directly from Synnara etc, but if group order is via Gmarket, I can buy it on 11st via the synnara shop.

Nooo Bambino, hope they are not bona-fide tears. The teaser finishes with the Whiplash soundtrack, I hope his mentor is nothing like Mr Fletcher, we cant be having that! ^^ Lupe is my fave Mino Though I can't abnegate Kendrick at all. Particularly if Yoda was his mentor! So Nancy I asked a few of my Korean comrades, they were sticklers for only using synnara directly or offline shops, the group order closest to me will be France, which store do they pre-order and bulk purchase from? I may use that instead of 11st, even if it's a tad more to pay.

Aloha *waves* Inner Congress When there is a turn of events concerning Winner, it seems everyone's posts or views are bracketed as either POSITIVE/ NEGATIVE or NEUTRAL. It's never as Black & White as that, there is a complete spectrum of outlooks and feelings. Of all the people I'm going to quote, it's actually Obi Wan (don't laugh!) “You will find that many of the truths we grasp to, depend greatly on our own point of view.†This is a given, but every situation that arises is complex, with lots of angles and layers, not all can be visible, but it's important to recognize that every situation is different and affects us all differently, in view of this is we should try breed more tolerance between us, than peg it into a FOR/ AGAINST vote! If I give my view regarding the cover, it will be highly likely lumped into either POSITIVE/NEGATIVE or NEUTRAL, plus everyone's timing is not going to be in sync with other users posting there views, some users will be belated in sharing there views on the cover. I just hope we have more tolerance between ourselves rather than to suppress one another, instead of only seeking for an easier life for ourselves on OH. And believe you me I need to take on board my own two pence worth as it's easier said than done, I'm in no means better as we all have our chink in the armor.

Food for thought, the amount of sub genre's in rock alone are countless, anything from, Hard Rock , Soft Rock, Folk Rock, Indie Rock, Alternative Rock, Blues Rock, Brit Pop Rock and so on and that's not including any fusion. To the naked eye it may seem like the genre's may not differ too much, but fingers crossed the 3 MV's will be very enticing! for us all. I wish! I knew as much as you think I'm in the know Queveeee! I only had a hunch as I heard one of the places they visited was Alexandra Palace, among Camden Town and others, during there stay in London. Even though I have some info regarding Stockholm I have no clue whatsoever if they would or wouldn't be exclusively for the MV or teaser. In London and Stockholm they were both advertised as Music Video and they filmed plenty, I guess now that can also go under the umbrella of a teaser. Who knows hows things are going to hold water, I'm pretty much in the same boat as many.

I'm definitely aware of the Synnara seller shop on 11st, I've brought from them in the past mostly photobooks etc, but not sure regarding the Gaon & Hanteo chart, no worries will ask around those who reside in Korea.

Yeah go ahead here is the link http://english.11st.co.kr/html/en/main.html it is the English version. Usually for first time users the shipping is cheaper than G Market via certain promotions, for those who struggle with shipping charges.

I get free international shipping discounts via 11ST.co.kr it's pretty much like Gmarket. Does anyone know whether 11ST counts towards sales? Synnara sells via 11st too.

I don't mind the topic or subject of the song tracks as i gather they are meaningful to Winner somehow, but a diversity of music genre or tempo is important, I hope the two title tracks differ enough from each other. You can have downbeat lyrics but with a fast and furious tempo. Empty and Colour Ring didn't differ enough for me as title tracks. I prefer if Exit E does not start off in this manner, but who knows Baby x3 and Sentimental could be a different tempo and feel to what we believe. Gaaaaaaw the pup it's shooo tiny! Animals, bambino's & the Elderly + Winner are all my weaknesses. ^.^

I'm glad to see Taehyun's Acting School show, will have a humorous take on it, rather than taking itself seriously, hopefully many of the acting scenes will pay homage and will be derived from particular movies and drama's too. Taehyun's body language retorts are going to be hilarious. As long as the songs are authentic, organic and meaningful to Winner, I do not mind the genre of topic, of course diversity of genre is always good since Winner are more than capable, but love is a mahoosive and nearly an unavoidable genre relatable to everyone universally even platonic love, you would be surprised how many songs are about Love but not overtly perceptible. Even Smile Again is perceptible as a love song if you look at the lyrics. I don't sense 'Pricked' has been concocted purely from invention no matter what Mino discloses. Don't Flirt should have got an MV, particularly during when Winner were performing Don't Flirt on music shows albeit I don't feel we need to have restricted ourselves to only 3 MV's (2 title MV & Solo), we could have had Don't Flirt as well as I'm Him.

I usually don't pander to the mahatmas of the fashion music or film popular heavyweights, it's not for disliking them, but I guess I feel I don't want to always regurgitate popular culture infinitely. A large quota of songs on my monthly music playlists do not include the top 40 singles chart, since they usually have plenty of airplay via all sorts of media radio, TV, retail stores to permeate there way to me. I can't count the endless promising song tracks I've stumbled across, some who are unsigned or independent artists/labels, which do/don't manage to drum up some acclaim through some taste-makers, music blogs and online media presence, but do not kick on from there. It's a huge myth that great music will naturally find its audience, alot of it can go undiscovered. With what I've expressed, it's transparent that I don't hold chart ranking as my primary importance, it is the music, everything else is secondary, however when I have vested interest in particular individuals or groups I will also furthermore secondary be attentive of the critical acclaim as well as commercial success and support it however means, albeit the lack of critical acclaim or commercial success doesn't take any shine away from a song, film I like etc. Bringing forward the track that I do like is 'Pricked', I feel it is a solid credible emotive track which I feel will stand the test of time by predilection from the members of Winner, so too will most of S/S 14. There is always a danger of artists looking back at their own debut albums in retrospect and the greenness or quality of it in hindsight can waiver in their eyes sometimes turning to discontent or specific self consciousnesses towards it. I really feel Winner will not be of risk to the above whilst harking back, as I feel most of S/S 14 and Pricked has enough maturity and authenticness, where Winner didn't pander, adopt and borrow something that didn't ring true to them, it expressed and reflected all the members in some natural manner. Pricked could become the new cult canon for the Inner Circle, maybe keeping a limited audience and by only avoiding fading away altogether from public and new listeners, entirely by virtue of its acclaim from the Inner Circle. It could be our 'Fight Club' 'Its a Wonderful life' or 'Donnie darko' all cult films which didn't do great at the box office! for whatever factors involved, ..and in the course of time, some of us could proudly say I listened, downloaded & streamed Pricked on melon, itunes...

Exactamundo! I confess I'm a film buff and Cinephile, Gary's in that tier as most versatile along with Daniel Day Lewis, Christian Bale, Depp etc. and amongst others I really relish when any of Winner take on acting in any discipline be it in MV's, Drama, Teasers, as I equally looking forward to it as much as there music. Taehyun wrote Dicaprio as his role model in the acting genre, a highly popular sentiment. I hope acting school references and touches upon many other films too! Like Dead Poets Society.