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Can you please create a gif from 1:15-1:16 of this video with medium size?
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I'm a huge Once, but I do still wonder how it would've been like had they debuted.
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Could you please give the OP rights to Classiq
http://onehallyu.com/topic/360576-official-dublekick-girl-group-survival-show-finding-the-momoland-thread-full-contestant-lineup-revealed/page-5 -
Yeah sure, I don't mind taking over
Thanks
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Does anyone want the OP rights? I thought I could handle it but tbh I'm to busy to edit and such.
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The 3 necessities to living a Momo friendly life

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Lmao right. I came here cause I like all new gen girl groups and when I keep seing the bashing of cute concepts get 12-20 upvotes I was kind of confused and displeased. Bashing concepts should not be a positive thing in the Official Thread.
See another person can tell too. It's definitely a problem and people here need to stop bashing others concepts and groups.
you have no right to talk about, you just rejoin the damn site to talk shit about them and how their debut will do badly
so kindly, go fuck yourself and take ho-stan-gugunade with you
So I'm a ho-stan just because I don't limit myself to one or only few more groups? Pathetic
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Well maybe when YG stans stop trying to come for other groups and other aspects of Kpop that aren't "usual" among YG artist then they wouldn't get bashed.

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Gugunade is probably already on it


Lol but for real I would love if she'd move to another company at this point. I'd be happy if she went to JYP and debut in the next GG with Somi.
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Never stop with those gifs

Don't worry, I won't


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nope, it would be something
I am not hyped anymore, and this means 2-3 months delay
even potential fans are fed up. We accepted 4 members, but enough is enough
so yes, I waited 4-5 years, and YES I cannot wait another 3 months

Don't leave me behind


lol you're welcome
But yknow I've realized we share a lot common denominators. Basically group's fandoms outside of YG and it has been evident that a lot of YG stans can voice their displeasure for those certain type of groups, quite loudly. And it gets tiring seeing it and how you know the majority will agree with their sentiment...no matter how prejudiced and/or biased they may sound.
Agreed, and yeah I definitely see we have a lot of common denominators as well. And yeah it sucks because even though I do like some here, majority of YG stans are very off putting. I never had issues with other fandoms like I had with YG stans and the funny thing was that I didn't even notice that they all were actually that until recently.
Always bashing other GGs, concepts, promotional styles, ect. And now the whole "variety shows are disgusting", "I don't want this group to have to many male fans and no older male fans", and "cute/innocent concepts are made for gross old perverts" BS was the last straw.
But I guess the elitism and bizarre logic comes with the territory.
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Welp that's it for me, I'm moving on to Momoland!! tehe
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Even though the OP in this thread is a troll, I definitely think they picked out a pretty interesting name for the fandom.
Pink Panther. It would fit well since Panthers are usually Black. And Panthers can be both pretty and tough.
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THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
In sexualizing cute concepts and in giving The group a fierce concept which can come off as sexy ...
First when you have grown ass women doing aegyo , dressed like lolitas...acting like pre teens .....There is something perverted and that can be really off putting for some including myself .
There this illusion of healthiness in these cute concepts , the illusions of purity when one if it's main aim is to please some old men.
Whereas the sexy concepts don't have this "illusion" , it goes all in , it show you what it's supposed to . No veil no nothing
It's aim is to be sexy and it's not hidden .
The girls are women now for god sake , I do not think them being sexy in these teasers images is anything bad .
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I do want them on varieties they need to promote as much as possible
I'll leave it alone after this, but no not every girl group that does them are grown women. If anything majority of them have teenage members that aren't even legal.
And how can those groups be made to please old men when they are considered public friendly? Obviously that means everyone of any gender or age can get into them, older men just happen to be one of those groups (although majority of male fans are in their teens-20s). I don't get where these mindless generalizations even came from. And so what if older men like girl groups with younger members? Who is anyone to say that it's disgusting that they do that. It's one thing if they are like "Oh I want to F*** her right now" but if they are just harmlessly fanboying over them then that's their business, not anyone elses. People don't flip their shit if ahjummas like younger guy groups so why is it so bad for ahjussis to like younger girl groups?
And again I didn't say sexy is bad, sexy is good and no concept is bad. But I just find it pretty foolish for people to think cute/innocent is suppose to be sexualized while sexy isn't.
I also didn't say I want these girls to do cutesy concepts, but all I want is for people to stop talking shit and putting them down every five seconds. People wouldn't like it if "empowering" concepts were always being put down so why should it be okay to do with cute/innocent was my point.
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Butthurt about "cute", AGAIN.

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Male or female aegyo is cringe anyway.
But for real tho, please chill with the cute bashing. We get it you don't like anything that relates to it, but most of us don't think they'll go for a cutesy concept (at least not overall, they may do it sometimes tho), so repeating it is unnecessary.
Not everyone here are yG stans. Many of us are fans of girl groups (and even boy groups) who have that image so again be mindful of that. I'm asking in a sincere and not "asshole" like sort of way.

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@gugunade

You're one of the few here that get me and don't make me regret being among this fandom, thanks so much
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1) you all need to get rid of this elitistc mindset, idols are more than musician.
if you want the girls to have a long career and stay relevant the public need to know them and the best way is thru variety. There are some aspect that suck from it, but to you think you can errase years of it just for them? what make them so exclusive? just being from yg???? that doens't work in this era, it's not 2009
2) innocent concept are sexualized yeah, but didn't yg sexualized 14 year old minzy without a innocent concept ???
I'm gonna repeat this one more time, THIS IS NOT 2009!
WHAT WORK THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK NOW
yg need to promote, youtube, v-app, vlive whatever the name is
they need to be constantly there for the fans bc exclusivity doesn't work anymore, the public doesn't give a shit how exclusive you are bc in that time they will jump to other groups that are accessible to the fans
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Also find it weird how people are so fast to point to cute/innocent as sexualizing, but can turn a blind eye to what actually can come off as sexy




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Do you really think Female idols enjoy doing aegyo or being constantly asked what their ideal types are by mostly middle aged men that are old enough to be their dads or uncles. Sure neither of those are sexual but they sure are annoying to both the idol and the viewer.
Your the one that needs to get rid of the delusion that cute/innocent concepts are not sexualized. Just take the recent Producer 101 controversy. Cute/innocent concepts are just another way to satisfy perverts fantasy of having young girls dancing in school uniforms.
You can't speak for every female idol and every viewer though. Many of them don't mind. Shoot some even do it voluntarily.
And if it wasn't for the idiotic Producer announcing that, no one would have thought it was "healthy porn" for male viewers, no one would have thought that was the case. And Produce 101 wasn't just having girls doing cute/innocent concepts. They did sexy, cool, girl crush, fun, hip hop, ect concepts too. Shoot for one of the dance stages the girls dressed in male clothing.
And Produce 101 was pretty popular among female fans too as was the general public.
They are going to air Produce 101 mseason 2 with male idols which that same Producer said will be "healthy porn" for female viewers. Are you going to yell about how male idols are treated too?
And how is it that cute/innocent concepts are so sexualizing, yet actual sexy fierce concepts aren't?
Girl groups have been doing cute/innocent concepts since day 1 with Fin.kl, Baby Vox, SES, and more. And that was way before sexy and/or fierce concepts existed let alone girl crush among Kpop. So how is it suddenly a problem now?
Not every girl group in Kpop has to be a girl crush "strong/empowering" concept GG and I'm pretty sick of people always putting down any other concept for GGs it's annoying.
And even if they don't go on variety shows, chances are they'll have some interaction online or offline with fans asking them to do it. And unless they have no problem being rude they'll do it.
I don't understand how female idols doing it is so terrible and bad, but if female fans ask male idols to do it, it's cute and entertaining.
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But. It is serious? I won't tolerate my girls being forced to do thing they don't want to (Which they WILL if they go on variety) but I agree an Idol is more than songs. They are about putting on a show and performing their songs. That's it.
If they choose to be TV icons, fine. But, that isn't their basic job it's just something alot of people do. I just hope they get on shows they are interested in and are in their comfort zone.
How do you know what they do and don't want to do? Do you know them? Did they personally tell you? Did they express their negativity and sadness for how they'd feel if they go on a variety show?
If you do than that's understandable (although if you say yes, than you need to provide receipts), but if not than you can't just say what someone wants and doesn't want to do.
And no being an Idol is being an overall entertainer, not just being a singer. And that's a fact. Go ahead and make a topic saying otherwise and see how many disagree with you.
Variety shows are suppose to be funny and entertaining and that's exactly what they provide. If they were really meant to specialize female idols, than why is it that I have not seen this outside of this thread and why has this not been discussed more among International fans often let alone Kfans?
Again you guys think to hard on that sort of stuff. And like I said before, it wouldn't be fair if fans have to miss out on variety shows just because others want to moan about how they believe it's so harmful when it's not as bad as you make it seem.
Literally, we are saying that if the girls are peer pressured into doing aegyo etc. is wrong. There is nothing wrong with it if they like it but 99% of the girls I know would get so cringey about doing stuff like that. So, try and see where we are coming from.I'm not being close minded, I somewhat understand but ya make it seem so serious. Like ya straight up think people asking idols to do aegyo = sexualization. And it's worse when you only consider it for female idols when male idols are asked to do it to at times.
And you can't just make your opinion seem like a fact. Not every girl is bothered by doing it. I'm not saying not all female idols don't want to do it, I know some. But just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either.
There are real issues with actual sexualization in Kpop and in music in general, aegyo is not one of them and if it is it's one of the most harmless I could think of.
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Use this when a fake stan is trolling, when zeros talk crap about Twice and the members, or anything else.