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sorry but I just want to let this out of my chest. I watch this fancam almost everyday and suddenly I'm afraid that 15&'s going to end up like Miss A. sure, the girls still acknowledge each other, but when JYPE don't do anything for them and don't even think of them as a group anymore I can't help but to think that Miss A situation could happen to them at this point. it is so painful for the fans and sad that even the girls don't have any control over the group's future. I just want my girls back together is it too much to ask for :'(
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JYP Nation is in November for Bangkok. I wonder if Jimin' voice will have recovered by then and/or get close to baseline. I hope Jimin' treatments are going well. And, hey, JYPE, this is the only excusable time for the lack of promotions/media play/performances/etc. Take care Jimin and I hope once she recovers we see a surge in Jimin' promotions. I miss hearing her true voice though she sang her heart out on Duet Song Festival.
she sings a bit in her latest instagram stories. it sounds like her voice is back & fine
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Why do you think that Jimin as an MC aggrivates viewers who are new to the show so much? I often try to take part in the live feed chat on YouTube and actually get a response from some of the fans of groups I might not usually be drawn to. I admit that a lot of the time in those settings it's hard to communicate because of the spam messages and the overall feeling that the fans have just had three to four cups of coffee. However, I just can't get a general idea of how they can come to dislike the MCs off of one setting. I've come to understand the show to not be as polished when it comes to groups are VERY active and who have experience in the industry. And I believe that to be the reason ASC has so many new groups on their show. While, some of the changes is the format of the show represent the mindset of change, the overall production calls for some form of decorum for things to happen, in some sense, smoothly. A slight restrictive nature that the MCs have to enforce and for those efforts they can be misunderstood or awkward. Do you think it's the MCs or the show?
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imo the show itself is awkward mainly because it's live, you can't really edit the silence that happen in between. in addition, the language barrier. it's a lot better when the guest can speak English. my first time watching a full episode of ASC was when 15& guested. I sense no awkwardness at all. same with Ailee or any guest who can speaks English.
I admit that Jimin MC skill is still lacking. honestly I've sent a lot of comments and constructive criticisms through her twitter. however, the hate that is addressed to Jimin is just.. ridiculous. she is sarcastic, especially with her close friends, and I see a lot of fans don't get that. they think that her sarcastic remarks are serious, that's why they think she's being rude. I still clearly remember that Markson's episode when 80% of the comments were cursing the MCs because they think they're being mean to Jackson when really it's the other way around. my conclusion is, these "viewers" are biased. it's also interesting how the hate is mostly directed toward Jimin only, when there are 3 MCs. her personality is just like the exact copy paste of Jackson except she can be controlled yet I have no doubt that no one will criticize him even when he does exactly the same thing as Jimin.
from my perspective it is like this:
GOT7: screaming all over the place, being extra and basically being uncontrollable all the time
Jimin: joking, keeping the pace, trying to control them
some fans: SHE IS SO RUDE LET THEM TALK! HATE HER
probably the show needs some sort of 'revamp' in their format too, too many segments in an 1-hour live show will only make the MCs get unnecessary hate for cutting off the guests. this running-out-of-time thing happen almost on every episode so I don't know why the staff haven't decided to change the format or something. on the other hand, the MCs also need more coordination with the staff as well as the fellow MCs. this problem is not really that visible when Eric's still on the show because he could handle that professionally. now that Eric's gone, it's like the staff and the MCs are both lost about what to do and the blame goes to the MCs (mostly Jimin). *shrugs*
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Not sure if we watched the same show but I didn't hear any off key lol just some notes that didn't speak and came out as puff of air but anyway, it's just the nature of these shows. Being able to see her on public broadcast for two weeks straight, that's good enough!!!! XD
oh maybe I said the wrong word? her voice wasn't coming out in the beginning and towards the end, after they did the high note/climax(?).
I know!!! it's a blessing enough XD
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ASC was a mess. And while the wild and loving nature of Got7 and the ASC MC is usually amusing I think it was a little too much out of control. Hangouts/sessions were cut short because of it. And Jimin had to constantly interrupt them to get them back on track. It was just messy. But Jackson was cute when he assisted Jimin to sit by him during the end photo. I think Got7 just needs to rein it in a little next time. They were high energy and funny but a tiny bit more control would have been better.
And I really feel bad for Kevin. But not really. He's been the MC the longest in this show and other shows but doesn't stand out at all. He should be a better skilled MC at this point. It's more prominent when JYPE groups attend as Jae/Jimin become super engaged but generally Kevin is so quiet. He almost disappears. It's awkward. But then again ASC is all awkwardness. Jimin has really taken the role of lead MC (even if she's still learning).
it was an entertaining mess for me XD as for the MCs, I doubt even Eric could control them this time. the one who could control them is Jimin but even her couldn't do anything this time. can't blame anyone when the boys were literally screaming and being extra all the time.
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I know what you mean. Kevin can't quite control them but that's nothing new. Even Jae was quiet today because he was sick. It was a good episode but yes, very messy and all over the place. But that's ASC. Jimin had to cut the boys short and some fans think it's rude of her, I guess these fans aren't used to ASC format yet hahaha Anyway, it's always fun to have JYP family at ASC.
she's always rude according to some fans. they must feel offended over every little thing that in their opinion, hurts their precious idols
the show was a complete mess but it was an entertaining mess for me. the boys and Jimin seemed to enjoy their time so it's all good.
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Last time, Son Seungyeon didn't perform as well so they invited her back this time. And truthfully I don't mind the fact she scored lowest or didn't get picked to come back for next episode. The poor girl needed rest so badly. From the subtitles, it seemed that the PD is quite fond of her and I hope they will invite her back in the future. These sort of shows, the audience tend to only go wow when the contestants are belting their throats out. It's inevitable. She gained some recognitions and proved herself as a more matured artist now and she showed them a new side of her. That's good enough.
yes, you are right. I'm just a bit disappointed because for me, it's not like she sang terribly, just off key a few times (understandably) but I also notice that they really need to belt some crazy high notes to raise the attention and win on these shows. next time then ^^
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Duet Song Festival full ep http://kshowonline.com/kshow/5772-[engsub]-duet-song-festival-ep.24
imo the audience is quiet harsh tho
apparently in the end they decide to give the contestants a chance to perform again and she doesn't get picked. if I was the audience I would vote for Jimin seeing her effort and her partner's. they did very well despite her unfortunate condition and I thought they would give her a chance to make up for that. oh well.. -
Nodes are always serious. I can't believe she didn't get any rest. What the company could have done was either delay her comeback (we waited for 18 months already, a bit more wouldn't hurt) or announced that she will be taking a rest and will be off schedule. But nope.. nothing.. If the listeners didn't ask, then we wouldn't have known.. Seriously.. *sighs*
I don't think she didn't get any rest though, she's absent for last week ASC and back with her family for Chuseok. I think she was getting sick at the time of the release. I mean, we can see her coughing in ASC around the time of her comeback and she also said that it came from a cold, so I don't think JYPE could've delayed the comeback since she's getting it right at the comeback week. now we can only hope that it's not very serious and she can recovers fast
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Jimin always gets sick whenever she has a comeback. she also caught a cold when she made her solo debut and around Sugar (?) promo. I think she's the type who gets sick if she works more than usual? of all times, she always gets sick at her busiest times which is the comeback. I hope she's healthy :(
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Yerin gained a bit weight, her face's a bit rounder and her chin's not very sharp as it used to. I'm happy to see that; in my country it means that the person is happy/content. she smiles a lot too ^^ be happy, Yerin
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I'm sorry but I didn't say DAY6's promotions being dreadful though? they are being promoted much better than Jimin.
yes, they are happy about busking and performing live but they also said/indicated that they want to be appear on tv too. so I disagree when you said that they don't care about it when a member even said that they want to get the first place on music shows.
and by the way, this is not the focus of my original comment. DAY6 is just my example when I say I don't understand JYPE's strategy about not making TV appearance when the artists themselves said that they want to.
why can't they make Jimin perform even just for a week like Letting Go? I just don't understand.
though, I admit that Try's promotion is better than Hopeless Love.
Yes they were excited but they said the also don't like hand sync either and were more more comfortable busking as well.
They also want to be taken seriously which is something that has been taking away from groups like FT Island & CN Blue... They said they understand the genre they do is not popular either, so shows like Sketchbook sure but as for the rest of them it's not going to help them per say especially for the scene they focus in. JYPE has not abandon TV all together so I think a week like they did with Letting GO is fine and the two M Coundown specials they did in Japan and New York was fine as well because they were exposed to people.
Hopefully Jae can show his badmiton skills more, and Brian gets more MC gigs along with whatever else interest the others have as well.
I strongly disagree about Day6 promotions being dreadful. so we just continue going in circles because you have your opinions and I have mine.
I'm sorry I messed up so bad at this spoiler thing
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I'm sorry but I didn't say DAY6's promotions being dreadful though? they are being promoted much better than Jimin.
yes, they are happy about busking and performing live but they also said/indicated that they want to be appear on tv too. so I disagree when you said that they don't care about it when a member even said that they want to get the first place on music shows.
and by the way, this is not the focus of my original comment. DAY6 is just my example when I say I don't understand JYPE's strategy about not making TV appearance when the artists themselves said that they want to.
why can't they make Jimin perform even just for a week like Letting Go? I just don't understand.
though, I admit that Try's promotion is better than Hopeless Love.
Yes they were excited but they said the also don't like hand sync either and were more more comfortable busking as well.
They also want to be taken seriously which is something that has been taking away from groups like FT Island & CN Blue... They said they understand the genre they do is not popular either, so shows like Sketchbook sure but as for the rest of them it's not going to help them per say especially for the scene they focus in. JYPE has not abandon TV all together so I think a week like they did with Letting GO is fine and the two M Coundown specials they did in Japan and New York was fine as well because they were exposed to people.
Hopefully Jae can show his badmiton skills more, and Brian gets more MC gigs along with whatever else interest the others have as well.
I strongly disagree about Day6 promotions being dreadful. so we just continue going in circles because you have your opinions and I have mine.
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on repeat! what a nice surprise ^^
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Day6 actually don't care for music shows, G. Soul idk tbh he only seemed comfortable when he was on Sketchbook.
http://onehallyu.com/topic/318715-day6-and-music-shows/
Plus we already know why Yerin has limited appearances and its because of her own insecurities.
not really..? even in that article they said that "TV appearance is important." you can see in the BTS videos and interviews that they're very excited for their first music broadcast and happy to finally come out on tv, plus someone (Jae?) said that their dream is to place first on music broadcast.
as for Yerin, I know that it's her choice.
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I really wish we saw Jimin on Sketchbook or music shows - I still don't understand JYPE. So that's it? One week? JYPE seems to never want to redeem themselves in the eyes of some of us. Though it pretty much cemented the fact while I support many in JYPE I will pretty much never support its management. It's a quack.
I think they would make her appear on music shows only if she climbs up the chart like Ayeon
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Nathan helps her in composing. Of course she feels very grateful to him. She could not compose everything herself, at least yet. She always says that she got a lot of help from people around her. she just introduced him in the making video because he helped her; she didn't promote him and even she was, I don't see what is wrong with that. They're friends, he also promotes her a lot.
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she's singing Walkin' live on cultwo show! I need the video asap
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late to the party because real life obligations but can I just say that I AM SO SO SO PROUD OF JIMIN! her album is a masterpiece. it's worth the wait. I don't really care about chart positions, her music is what matters to me. and the fact that she participated in making the songs make me feel that my baby is really growing up
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JIMIN SOLO!!!!!! I KNEW IT!!! TOLD YOU GUYS IT'S REALLY HAPPENING OMG SO EXCITEEEDDDDD
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Yes. I don't expect anything from JYPE, that's why I'm not that upset about the duet project, I'll actually be surprised if it's Jimin, exactly as Syara said, she always gets the shortest part of the stick. I'm a JYPN stan but I don't really care about comeback rumors/JYPE's plans throughout the year, I bet no one expects this Ayeon/Jun. K collab either. I just want to point out that she's getting busy these days and the fact that it's not about the duet project probably means that it's related to her solo since she also said that she's working on it. I assume that it's taking longer because she tries to self-compose. But only time will tell, I'm just stating what I see and keeping my fingers crossed. I have waited for so long and it doesn't make any different for me to wait a little bit longer if she needs to. And I would not even think about promotion. I've lost all faith in JYPE's marketing. All I care about is her music now.
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But they did. Some of JYPE artists' posted their practice even and they're all together. Even Suzy. And if what you're saying is true then it's even more suspicious that she she needs to skip ASC often when it's hard for them to get together. Jimin dyed her hair long before the concert tho, and I don't think it's for the concert at all as in JYPN Hongkong, she dyed her hair brown. She just did it when she likes it. She changes her hairstyle often before staying black like now. And her weight lost is not even noticeable to me, I don't even realize it if you're not telling me this. Compared to her recent weight lost, it's nothing, she's getting Hopeless Love kind of skinny, not just a bit. Idk, she's skipping ASC a few times without clear reasons and getting skinny, is suspicious to me. Not trying to get your hopes high but imo she's definitely up to something, though I'm not sure when will it will be. Once again, I believe in Jimin, not JYPE. She has hinted at her solo so I choose to believe her.
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What concert? JYPE concert? Sorry but she wouldn't lost so much weight just for a concert. If it is for the concert, Jae should be absent too, all thr JYPE artists practice together for the concert if we look at the previous nation's concerts. But Jae, at least once, never absent ever since he joined. We all know that she participated in the composing challenge too and rarely post on her ig now. For me, that means she's busy with something. I don't believe JYPE but I believe in Jimin since she also hinted at her solo all this time.
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The fact that Jimin's not on the duet project actually convince me more that she's working on her solo album. I prefer her solo rather than the duet project. She's been missing ASC more often lately. She even missed this week's ASC right after being seen on JYPE talk the night before, so I doubt she's sick. I mentioned this before on the 15& thread but she's getting very skinny and that means, at least for me, she's working on something.
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the thing that is similar for both groups is the way JYPE treats them and the state that they are in right now. the members of both groups often said that they want to come back as group and all that but JYPE just decide to forget them. I'll never forget that '2015end'. I mean, they give everything they could to promote twice but not a single mention of 15&. they couldn't even gather them for an anniversary photo or something.. obviously forgetting that the group exists