Namie-Knowles

6 minutes ago, witchcocktor said:

I mean have u seen the thread? 90% of it is BTS, 5% of it is WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF INSERTBOYGROUPHERE and the rest 5% is the same debate about queerbaiting, fanservice, femininity and '' sus '' behavior that isn't sus at all. It's already in the grave lmfao. 

Low key tea. But by grave I means 100% dead. People are pretending this thread is always the same in terms of quality. It's a whole lie. Yes in the beginning this thread was wild. But about a year or two after starting things stabilized and things were different. I dont get why people somehow think it's the same. Yes its been declining since 2018 but it basically got kicked in the throat mid 2019 and up. Its just a lot of the times "Look how feminine they are acting" or "Look rainbow hoodie" that would've gotten you -5 up -30 back in the day depending on how many times said person has done that. This thread isnt the same. It sucks. I know some people get mad at me saying that. Im not saying people here suck. It just isnt what it used to be. It doesn't feel like I am discussing with other people spilling hot tea or actual gay guys(usually not baby gays). It just feels idk. Different. Not in a good way. Coming to this thread isnt hype or enjoyable. It's dead or some nonsense.

4 hours ago, shineestan said:

this thread has never been *good* lmao and has always been full of "queerbait" it's not a serious place of journalism.... it's a speculation thread on a kpop forum....

 

ps: stream the stealer 

That's a lie but The Stealer is a bop so I will allow it! The way this thread is super dead but I got this shit active again. Causing all this commotion. Impact. I know I made some people mad but I wasn't necessarily talking about the SJ member. Bi erasure is common in this thread as of recently but that really isnt my point. The community just feels so dry since everyone is gone. The only time this thread moved several pages in a week was that transphobic troll. Just sad to see the downfall of our community. It's basically a skeleton at this point. It sucks. Everyone whose been here for over a year or two is gone. Its just tons of Dpless accounts saying something controversial or something absolutely dumb and thats it. Sometimes Y'all do occasionally spill tea but I think so many of us don't come here anymore. I wish we did. Y'all better keep this shit going after Ieave. Don't let such an iconic thread end in the grave.

5 hours ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

I honestly don't understand why you are so pressed about fans not believing a public relationship between 2 people who work in this kind of industry which nobody from this thread knows on a personal level. Did you ever drank your chocolate milk with them? XD

And this relationship has some suspicious things going on from the way the company handled it to the 2 people involved.

I do agree that the thread is not what it used to be, but you are not helping either.

Also saying things like "Give me my skulls and clowns on my way out" won't stop people from clowning you.

What is this fanfic. Why would I care about skulls and clowns on a dead website love?

Damn...this thread has really fallen from grace.

I used to anticipate the tea each time I came here.

Now it is just fighting with trolls, hyping up Queer Bait, or claiming each idol relationship is a lavender marriage.

I appreciate this thread for giving me some gay realness when I decided to come here. You all have been amazing for the most part.

All of the posters I am used to have stopped coming and posting. I guess its my time to bow out as well.

I hope whoever is left has a nice time here. Give me my skulls and clowns on my way out. 

Stream Fancy. 

"Been lurking seven years". Yeah no sis.

Obviously you used that line to add credibility to your post but the stuff you keep posting proves you are new as hell.

Nice try though. Better luck next time. 

24 minutes ago, Kpop_fan178 said:

How do you know that 99% percent of people in this thread say that? This is so not true and your generalization is rude and disrespectful but i don't think you care anyway. And no one actually talks here about idols interacting with women. I don't know where did you get your ideas, at least give some examples before calling people hypocrites. There were incredibly few posts about that because THIS THREAD IS CALLED WHICH IDOLS DO YOU  THINK ARE GAY?

And about the winks and other things you said, people here don't think x is gay because he winked at a man or whatever you said, we still post a few moments like that for entertainment purposes. And what's wrong with posting every little suspicious thing?

Again THIS THREAD IS CALLED WHICH IDOLS DO YOU  THINK ARE GAY?. It's weird that the name of the thread is written in BIG capital letters in front of the thread and still people don't see it.

It it just me or recently suddenly appeared a lot of negative users or just frustrated people who didn't even bother reading the thread before attacking us?

 

Girl why are you getting so mad. I been here in this thread far before you. Since like 2015 with my first account then 2016 with this one. It's been five years. I've seen that type of logic get up to 50 upvotes before back during this thread peak. It's obvious that line of thought isn't unpopular. Stop getting so mad and trying to argue with me as if I came in here to attack you. Literally all the things I've described have been posted and been highly upvoted before in this thread. I've been here for five years girl. This isn't something new. I am a man myself and like men myself. So if you think I am just some salty straight guy or some straight girl that fetishizes gay men, then you got another thing coming. If I came here to drag your ass, YOU would know. Lmao. Calm down.

6 hours ago, Sataengist said:

Would you have the same reasoning if it was mans backside? be honest 

 

Edit: regarding the fanservice comment that i forgot to quote, like i said I'm not following the group so i don't really know or care about that, but his vibe is enough and its very very strong, and i can see that a lot of people are biased in their judgment here (as in they WANT that specific person to be gay) but if you look at it objectively (or at least try) i think it's very obvious to see 

Yeah I realized that here. 99% of people here say things like "Him ignoring or being shy with women doesn't mean anything" "Him looking at a woman like that means nothing" "Him calling a girl cute means nothing" But then turn around and flip the logic when it comes to man to man. Suddenly every look or wink means gay, him being shy with men means gay, him calling a man cute gay. I don't know this thread has been doing this type of thing since the beginning. It is an interesting phenomenon though.

Personally, it doesn't bother me too much since I know that it has to be some hypocritical logic to allow this thread to work. Because if we accepted both sides as equally valid almost each idol discussed would be immediately Bisexual and not gay. Which some people in this thread don't like too much.

19 hours ago, hhyunjin said:

oh i see lol. hyunjin has been discussed here a few times, but i don't know how to search on here so i will talk about the things i remember. back in 2018 he recommended the song and mv 1-800-273-8255 by logic 3 times (the music video is about a gay guy/gay couple) not only he recommended it, he said it gave him hope and that we might cry if we watch the mv, he read a lesbian novel, once when he was singing a song in english he said "boyfriend" instead of girlfriend (he corrected himself later though), he also wrote "wow" a song that some fans consider to be a gay anthem because it talks about curiosity and "unknowable feelings". and that's all i can remember rn, there's probably more stuff though, but overall, he seems to be kind of soft for boys? i dont know but id be really surprised if he was straight.

To be fair Wow is a Gay Anthem for Lesbians. The song is talking about how a older woman is extremely hot.

4 hours ago, lighterxx said:

Words create their own meaning and it changes with time. As long as people use it without intention to insult, its fine for me. We can make negative words into positive thats nature of language rip

I semi agree. Thats just risky territory because thats the same exact justification people use to say the N-Word when they they aren't black.

"It's written like a YA novel."....Lmao y'all this is a YA novel. It's like y'all can't read ajgdnasdgkjgdknsgjksgnjgs

3 hours ago, BooBoo17 said:

omg not @ y'all clowning me.... I didn't mean my post as a shipping thing (I don't ship any of the dreamies) I thought that since the thread hasn't really talked about renjun y'all would want some moments of his that make look a little "sus" (for lack of a better term). wait to make someone feel bad about trying to share some receipts lol

Your name Boo Boo and you getting mad over some clowns. 

Okay so here is my perception on this.

1. "Many idols have long hair and colored lenses and blah blah blah": Okay, perhaps I am missing something but you guys do understand that Super Junior debuted in 2006. When male idols had a LOT less feminity than now. Name me 10 male idols in 2006 that had long haired and colored lenses and was advertised to look feminine. LGBT rights have progressed a bunch since 2006 in Korea and it still has a a lot of ways to go. You guys don't get that the toxic masculinity ideal was stronger back then compared to now right? Yes, someone debuting with Heechul's concept in the modern era would have little to no problems. As things have changed since, but back then? No that was obviously a stand out look to Koreans back then. Once a rumor starts, it follows you. The primary reasons they thought he was gay was because of his pretty look. Thats simple, the general public didn't think he was gay for the reasons you guys did. They didn't think he was gay for the reasons they assume Jo Kwon and Daewhi are gay. His originated rumor stemmed from being a pretty looking boy. Which is extremely acceptable now as pretty boys are basically all male idols today. I even asked my Korean friend about it too. Yes the answer is kind of problematic but honestly I expected this answer because we see it in all male idol groups. Pretending to be gay or kissing your members, hugging them, flirting with them, then pulling away laughing. Being gay is a whole ass joke to many Koreans. It went from "Ew go kill yourself" to "Hahah imagine being a gay" type of thing. And my friend is 100% fine with Gay people he doesn't really care who dates who so you can see even those who are open to the LGBT community are still on some 2010 USA teas (The USA still has ways to go, no one is saying the US is superior or anything like that y'all. It's just obviously way ahead of Korea even though both countries are conservative) So Heechul simply acknowledging his gay male fans and not wanting to hurt the LGBT community is so thoughtful of him and I am honestly shook how some of you are morphing it into an insult. I can see how it can be hurtful at the same time though if I think about it. He plays into it because it's considered comedy and he is known for being comedic on television. So him playing it up occasionally yet still being supportive of his LGBT male fans and not caring who likes who fits exactly what it means to be an ally in Korea right now. It's reminds me of how allies acted back 2005- 2010ish here in the U.S.A. Thats the exact same way they treated this entire situation. Is it right? Hell no. Is it progress compared to Korean 10, 20, 30 years ago? Hell yes. Are they heading in the right direction? Yes. I get that it's sad that it may take another 10 years before we see anything close to being what we call adequate support in Korea. It truly does, but conservative countries progress slow and we have to take each crumb we can get and keep fighting.

When Imgur finally done being broken I'll post the text image.

"Men in Korea are more intimate with each other than the average level in the world." 

That is definitely true at least compared to the U.S. Now some close guy friends won't care about skinship but most guys keep it at a certain level in the public eye. (Straight Guys in the U.S do very "gay" things behind the scenes but usually only in private when there are no girls around. Which many users who are women in this thread don't seem to know about.) I tutor Korean and Japanese exchange students. The men there are very touchy and affectionate. I have around fifteen or so U.S male friends and only two of them are touchy. But almost all of my Korean male friends are extremely touchy. Holding my hand, grabbing my waist, slapping my butt, sitting super close, all of that is literally nothing to them. Of course, many of the Western/American women in the Friends of Korea/Japan clubs consider it gay and then proceed to babify or ship them with me. But they generally don't mind or don't understand what is happening. Back on topic though, they are much more touchy overall and they are straight to the bone but for them its normal. Certain things like kisses or touching someones dick is still considered "off limits" or  "too much" but things such as getting naked around each other is okay. So thats something I've come to learn in my experience. 

16 hours ago, vantee said:

... in what year is he living in? 

2020 Korea. Being racist against Black people is still funny there.

8 hours ago, lighterxx said:

Ofc i dont, it is continuation of the sentence rather than a proof. 

....i do think Dino and Vernon are quite straight tho, I have to say. 

Edit: i cant even say my view without clowned great, if you disagree its great, why would you go out of your way to do this. How stupidly annoying.

Gurl don't worry about the clowns or skulls I am not sure why that makes so many people in here upset. People can still give me clowns or skulls. I spilled tea regardless lmao. What is a few clowns or skulls going to do? Make me straight?

One time I got like 10 negative reactions on one post but I still posted it. This thread gonna need to give me 7,000 clowns to drop my shit below the negative.

Don't be scared or upset by the reactions. If they mad let them stay mad lmao. Keep posting. It makes them angry that you aren't being silenced by their clown.

Just because I can teach myself to whistle or run, a basic physical action, or suck a lollipop doesn't mean I know how to instinctively cook. Which is an art.

14 hours ago, LostChild said:

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Thanks but i already know who Jo Kwon is. I just found it funny that someone who frequents this thread and speculates on male idols' sexualities didn't spell right the name of the most obvious gay idol.

 

Lmao sis, me misspelling a name at 4AM is the worse L a person can take. Wig tho. Thanks for the correction, I will edit.

On 2/10/2020 at 10:50 AM, eli said:

u posting u wouldnt comment on heechuls relationship anymore mustve been a fever dream damn

They won't stop and rest assure if Momo and Heechul part ways even if its 5 or 10 years later they will be back up in here calling the relationship fake and that he couldn't stay with her because he was getting trained by Gunhee and their military buddies. They never gonna stop. Ever. I realized that a long time ago. That is dedication. That is one thing I can respect. Wig.

Moral of the story Kevin, Ten, Jo Kwon, and any A.C.E member need to form a unit and give us the gay flavor we DESERVE!

For the people discussing Jimin's height issue. This was discussed in depth back 2 years ago if I recall. Here y'all go!

17 hours ago, ribbonribbon said:

To be fair, this thread has been going in a circle, and is not the same one it used to be anymore. I do not think anyone is at fault - OH was down for so long and many have left, not much new people join in.

I love to see new posts and new analysis, but the post have almost exclusively about BTS or Heechul lately. Don't get me wrong, I think it is perfectly normal for fans to want to discuss their fave, since they don't follow other groups that closely (even I most discuss either Suju or EXO). But we only have a few users here discussing things, at one point it becomes more of group chat between few fans, and other times it feels like a shipping thread.

It was the same before, but we had more users and more fans' diversity, topics and speculation got refresh after a few pages. And the type of agree-to-disagree (like Heechul case) got buried quite quick. Well, nothing we can do now.

About Stray Kids, I am outside the loop, but I think Jisung and Minho got a decent shipping fan base based on their chemistry? Normally, I don't like shipping culture but I do believe those that have VERY GOOD romantic chemistry with male are less likely to be completely straight. Outside the normal shipping, Felix gives me quite a vibe.

With Sechskies return, I recently thought - how many of the first gen idols are still single, not because they have not found the right lady, but because the society is not ready for them having a boyfriend? Or worse, how many actually marry or enter a hetero-relationship to go how the society wants?

Yeah I feel the same way. It has been just been Heechul and BTS each day. Nothing else besides one person occasionally bringing up someone else only to be ignored. Its the same stuff. This thread isnt what it used to be. Ive been coming here once each 2-3 weeks skipping pages upon pages because I already know what it is gonna be. Someone makes another post screaming "Momo beard" and gets likes for it and they all circle jerk over it for 1.5 pages then stop then its BTS time for 1.5 pages then its Heechul time again. Like this thread really is over I guess. We lost so many valuable posters. Now it's just the same people discussing the same thing. Idk. Its boring now.

The constant bringing up of Heechul and Momo over and over and over.

Jesus Christ. It's like some of y'all can't accept the possibility of the man being bisexual that he has to be 100% gay period

Like get over it, damn. Even Onces who swore up and down Momo was a Lesbian isn't going on about this still.

Man over here delaying the release of his album cause he didn't want people to think he was using this scandal as a platform for his music.

There are so many people to talk about besides Heechul for the 100th time y'all. It happened. He's dating Momo who cares?

Anyways, what do y'all think about Stray Kids? Lets do some calculations.

31 minutes ago, bittermelon said:

Yes, he a mess, but don't act like black people don't say shit about other minorities.

This clown ass response in 2020. Can we say wig

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I FUCKING WHEEZED HE TRIED IT,

AINT NO BLACK PEOPLE EVER GOING TO SAY YELLOW MONKEY

SO IT WASNT A CLAPBACK CAUSE MONKEY COULD BE REVERSE UNO'ED CARD BACK AT US

HE SAID THAT JUST TO BE RACIST FOR FREE. KOREAN RAPPERS ARE SO CRINGY LMAO.

I am glad his career is over.

Maybe their racist, nasty, stereotypical, and derogatory comments about SEA and Black people came back to bite.

Shouldn't have worshiped White people so much and now here they are mocking you

Now you getting a taste of your own medicine. Enjoy the taste of his cum K-Netz

Also, if someone says their cum tasted like cornbread/fried chicken/Chitterlings I wouldn't be pressed about it.

I'd just cringe and move on but I mean it is what it is. K-Netz are sensitive when they become the target of shit.

Yeah they already had that title when they had their 30 ~ 35th concert date surpassing SNSD's record of 23 Japan dates. That was a long time ago though iirc.