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PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
I assumed you were talking next cut, if you are talking final 11, only 3 I would definitely bet on would be Sejeong, Somi and Yoojung... With the playing field leveled in the reset, it will really come down to who resonates best in the remaining episodes and your current bias...As I pointed out before, if Sohye can continue to up her game to show she can belong, she will be in... Mistakes, bloopers, we see that all the time... As long as it is not distracting, we will sympathisize to a degree... But with the final stretch in sight, viewers will begin to take a harder look at everyone... In the final 11, it would not be surprising to see none of the MBK girls make it, maybe 1 perhaps as you say 2 from Pledis, I think 2 Jelphi's (albeit I want all 3), Somi, 1 from Fantagio, perhaps even 2... A whole new ball game... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Suspect that all 3 from MBK makes it as will Chaekyoung and 3 possibly 4 from Pledis... Yeunjung and Sohye should also make cut easily... Dark horses to maybe sneak in include Park Haeyoung, Kim Minjung... Potentially Park Hayi and Yu Sua too... Remember there was only an addition 7 days of voting after the revised rankings were given... It'll come down to whether or not the rate of trending votes for the trainees continue and the number of votes in that trend... Looking foward to who makes the cut...In any case, it's a whole new ball game with 1 vote per day per account when voting resets... I wouldn't be surprised if the voting period gets reduced to less then 2 weeks! Final 11 needs at least a week to rehearse or practice before their debut... Especially if it is an original song... So work backwards, time scrunch and major stress on the horizon... Time to further separate the wheat from the chaff... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Not much, there are more then enough people out there that could and would spill the beans if so... Stuff like, She's a shark, She isn't who she says she is, Sohye's been taking dance lessons, she has a vocal trainer and so forth... You don't think people have hunted her classmates looking for the ideal scoop? She may not the 100% person that the TV makes her out to be, but it can't be that far off... She'd have to be acting 24/7... And clearly the other trainees would have caught on very quickly, the mere fact that the other trainees are willing to help her out speaks volumes...I will say this, Redline is not an agency that springs to mind when you thing acting or Kpop... the mere fact that Sohye is a trainee with them suggests several things. You don't think Sohye would have wanted or tried at the bigger agencies, she likely didn't get accepted by them for many reasons, many of which are leveled at her today... Likely she still wouldn't be accepted since she doesn't fit the standard mould... She can only work with what she has... We can speculate forever how she got an invite or why to the program but she's there... There is still a long way for her but she'd be foolish not to take this opportunity and run as far and as hard as possible... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
LoL, I think it's mainly because you want the last word.... So when u watching the rest? -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Wishful thinking or not, if it makes business sense, they will find a way... Suspect not though... To much vested interests... Likely it'll be easier just to do another show with 101 new trainees... I got to believe that with the ratings and hype being generated, I think their debut song is going to hit the charts like a typhoon... Yep, Soleil is certainly different... Imagine introducing..... Sohye from Soleil.... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
They could change it, or they could not... After all they've built the pyramid already... There will be a twist I am sure but it won't take long for the 35 to be shown, leaving time for the introduction of the concept teams... Just think that there will be surprises between the 15-35... with lots of tears and heartache... Why would they leave that on the edit floor... Imagine if Sira made it, Yoo Sua or Chanmi to name a few... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Promotional Hype I imagine, aka Somi being herded away in promo but not seen in the episode... Prank edits in promo but not in episode.. I guess we will have to wait and see how it played out.... So aren't you hooked to watch the next episode? -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
We can opine as much based on fan cams, the episode, etc, but as someone mentioned before, the dynamics of who you vote for when you're in a live audience changes dramatically when you consider the ambiance, the look and feel etc... What you thought beforehand and what you finally think afterwards can change quite dramatically... After all how many of us would prefer to go and see the live show vs staying home and watching it on TV... Why, because it's not the same... Perhaps Shin resonated more with the audience that evening... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Definitely.... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
LoL, I agree with you 100% but suspect that many will take issue with your comment on evil edits to try and convince you otherwise... Enjoy the remaining episodes to catch up.... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
LoL, you're the lightning Rod at the moment... Diversity of opinion provides perspective, which is good, the unfortunate challenge here though is the way it's done and interpreted... Such a fine line between useful & informative and the total opposite... If I recall correctly, being a touch circumspect in the way and how we use our words is likely the best... Just an observation and nothing more.... Cheers... -
[OFFICIAL] Penguin Queen Kim Sohye Thread
Simpletons replied to s_sohye's topic in Individual Artists
LOL, the main thread is okay albeit you tend to get smacked from all sides regardless... diversity of opinion is good but... So I will say it here... 1) Sohye may not be as talented as others, she will never be a SOMI or a SEJEONG but she will be herself and this is just fine... 2) She knows she is lacking but she is not afraid, as she so nicely put it in episode 6... 'I don't know when I'm going to fail... trying a lot of things is better, isn't it?'... we learn better by doing and by experience... 3) She may lack training, she may be naive, but she is smarter then she is given credit for, in this world you succeed through a combination of guts, determination and luck...talent helps but it's often over rated... 4) Guts: to try out for Produce 101, Determination: Irony & Full Moon performance vs training edit, Luck: Sejeong & Pinky 5) You need all 3 to align properly and when they do, who in this world would not take the opportunity and run as hard and as far as possible... 6) Evil editing, screen time... Seriously as if MNet has the time to pick and choose... what they do is hours and hours of film that they need to condense into a 100 or so minutes, they have editors looking for footage that they can use, producers look over the footage to get the best stories that will captivate audiences... if the story doesn't resonate, it won't get on... it's like stories on the news... 7) As I pointed out, if Sohye in the actual performances was to mess up badly or be totally bad, no amount of editing or screen time would help cover this... the story and her journey would end quite quickly... the fact that it hasn't and that it still continues to resonate with a lot of people says otherwise... Okay, rant over... Just saying...- 9,817 replies
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PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Only one more round of voting before the final 11 is announced... next round of eliminations will eliminate 12-35... 1 vote per account per day... Level playing field now, so may the trainees with the biggest fandoms (existing or new) win... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Here's the 2nd part... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
We can agree to disagree but if Sohye was as inept in her training when the performance came around, the story arc would have ended quickly... My point is, editing can only go so far regardless of how much screen time you give it... The fact that she was able to despite zero training, kudos to her... The fact that this story resonates, specially in Korea, means that the story will continue. As Sohye so nicely pointed out it, she doesn't know when she is going to fall but trying as many things as possible before then, isn't that good? -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Shorten it to MDLM... Hmmm. The word is missing a 't'... Then you could spell MNet... Lol -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Perhaps but I would add that Nayoung clearly had the experience to pull the team together. Mina as we know is not as experienced as Sejeing or Kim N for that matter... So it follows that she would defer to someone who did... I would say it's not so much that she doesn't have consideration but that she was doing the best that she could... She will learn from this experience... Interestingly, no one has pointed out in Sejeong's group that Chaekyung felt a little left out and no one went out of the way to include her... it is quite clear that trainee's will go out of their way to help the weakest member (s), Sejeong, Pinky, Soyeon, I'm Nayoung to name a few... We'd like everyone to do the right thing but not everyone has the blend of experience, mindset and personality to do it and lead... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
LoL, as if MNet knew from episode 1 that Sohye would resonate with people and decided to create an IDOL out of her... A dog is stil a dog is still a dog... You can never change that however if the dog is willing change and can, who are we to hold that against the dog... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Just wonder how you edit in front of a live audience... Couldn't have a big one or the audience would have seen it... But then they were likely blind & dumb... LoL Couldn't find the so called edit... But then, I must have blinked again... Twitter post on Produce 101 Twitter account by Pinky International supporters about Sohye says it all... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Remember, the voting was in front of the live audience... we here on the forum are looking at fancams, close ups and forming our opinions... as I said before, unfortunately, the yard stick by which we measure each and every trainee is different... that's called perspective... Clearly, Sohye is lacking in all areas when compared to other trainees, she may never be as good as them... She will never be a SOMI, a SEJEONG... she doesn't need to... she just needs to show that she can fit in... is she less deserving than others? How does one answer that and do justice... all I can say, you get the opportunity, you run with it as far as you can... who would not... I will say now, if the Sohye we saw in the performance was the same as what we saw in training... she would not have got the votes... Still another 19 pages to catch up... taking a break... so I don't spam the thread... after all I have too much time on my hands... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Still working my way through the pages... making headway... so apologies as I also want to add my 2-cents worth... And it is still promising... in fact, I think this show has enhanced (just an opinion of course) it... I see her as young, pretty, energetic, under so much stress because of public expectations, she dances, sings, she's down to earth... She wears her emotion on her sleeve... what is there not to like about her? She is not a DIVA-type (hopefully never) like how some view Cathy, Chanmi and so on... She's just SOMI and we will all follow and love continues to improve even more... LOL, I must have blinked a lot because I only caught the first one at the beginning of the dance routine... (but then I only watched the fancam once once it was raised... From the audience stand point, I doubt they even saw it... LOL, you won't ever know unless some other trainee leaks the story... But it did get you interested enough to watch the next episode... That few seconds of footage was great but suspect that there wasn't enough dramatic footage or angle to make a story of it... save as a footnote... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Didn't want to quote O.oculus, but fully agree with her 100% Sadly, everyone needs a boost regardless... some more than others... As we all know... there are no trainees left that don't deserve to be there... even more so once we get to the final 35... even the trainees that were eliminated in the first round... it's just that they are talented in different ways and we as the audience are trying to fit them in these nice neat boxes called 'IDOLS'... if they don't fit, just keep hammering away until they do... if they don't... such a pity... but then it's a hard industry and a funny thing called dreams... Luck, the opportunity, right place, right time... this too has much to do with it... Simply saying... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
First come first serve for most of them? After all why start cueing from early morning if it's all been fixed... it's not as if they allocate the first 300 places to Jelphi girl or Sohye fans, the next 200 to Somi haters... I am sure that it would go even better with fans if prescreening was done... But hey, it's a nice topic to talk about and not get resolution... lol Spot on... not to say one can't rant or rave or even moan... but perhaps less 'in your face' would be nice... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
Diversity of opinion is always good... Hm... Only Yoo Sua and Sira to my mind are the ones most likely not to make the next cut, the rest of them of them are a shoo in... the field will be level once it comes to 1 vote 1 account... then you will see the power of those that have existing or new fandoms... Fully agree, but then it's not as though the nugus could plan these things... we all have our bias, good and bad... but most of us vote our to the best of our conscience... right on... -
PRODUCE 101 Season 1 Official Thread #WhenTheCherryBlossomsFade
Simpletons replied to Delphine's topic in Variety Shows
What, still another 30 pages to read through... Yep, it was a surprise but in front of a live audience, anything can happen... Just observing again... small group, split votes, weak team, strong team... yes, these are factors... they did after all chose songs they wanted... are we suggesting that the lower ranked trainees had a big advantage because they could chose these 'weaker' and 'smaller' teams... I guess the extra dimension in this is how you play the hand that you are dealt... After all, Mina wasn't in a small group... LOL, so you're not going to stay until bitter end watching the final 11 debut... Oh you folks are so hooked... Hm... because they were held on different days and different people attended?