whalie.

time to update this thread again (btw i know it's 6am but i just spotted dwc at #40 on melon???? it's the first time one of their past song charts again)

pinwheel brought me back from the dead, pledis can drop the teasers when they want i'm ready

oricon = 7,161/59,017

oricon = 8,425 total = 51,856

idk why this sudden increase but it's a good sign

oricon sales for this week: 12,626 total sales: 43,431 best-selling 2017 korean album yay

everything is in the OP

i can finally update the other albums' hanteo sales

are we finally getting that sweet longevity on the charts i think it's the first time i see them not dropping out of top50 after 2 whole weeks.

(1d/justin bieber are good examples, taylor swift too. but they had to destroy their disney image first before turning mainstream, and that's a really risky move for kpop idols.) it's complicated... i think it'll have more longevity than pretty u. it's their 2nd week, fans don't have to stream as much as the 1st week because svt has zero chance to win anything next week, But the song is still in top50. it's gaining melon stars (?idk how to call it) fast, they trended after the few times they appeared on big music shows. the song Is Good so who knows? if nothing big happens, maybe 400k-500k sales? can't wait to see what they have prepared for the second half of the year.

i'd say 90% are p101, 9% random things, 1% other groups (bts billboard - ikon flopping - top smoking etc.) but they never trend as high as before. on friday, it's 105% p101. oh okay! for a boygroup, selling 300k is a sign of rising popularity (aju nice and pretty u both sold 300k) but it's considered quite low by the gp. a song starts being popular at around 800k downloads (that's how much i need u sold). in our era, what people call a national hit is around 2M but imo, for a song to be a Hit, you need more than only doing well on the charts. boygroups are suffering a lot from stereotypes, especially since exo's growl. if you're a rookie boygroup and you're not from yg, they won't care about you. pd101 have a chance to change that tho, seeing how many upvotes they get on naver. what seventeen and every boygroup need to focus on is their fandom: do concerts, release special videos, do vlives, tweet a lot, post pictures, be cute at fansigns etc. the public recognition will come one day, if they're lucky.

it was, international/sns wise. no, not at all but i remember the song dropping very quickly on the chart and with 300k sales, i doubt it's the song that made them break the korean music scene. (1st week sale was 20k-30k i think? so yeh) but it's a classic now, and probably one of their most liked song, that's why we shouldn't focus too much on how dwc is doing rn. seventeen's time will come.

i was gonna rant but i clicked the wrong button and i lost everything fml i know some of you are a bit disappointed but pann aka carats' main platform of promotion is a big mess because of p101, no fandom can trend or promote anything anymore which can explain the lack of hype for this comeback. svt entirely rely on carats intense spamming, if they can't promote, it's complicated for them to get noticed. + other things i won't talk about here. this 1st week sales is the 2nd highest for downloads and the 1st for streams. dwc seems to have a lot more longevity than pretty u. i'm sure they'll do even better next comeback dwc is doing much better than dope, you're probably confusing it with i need u? dope had a bigger impact on youtube than on korean music charts

17k they need to debut in japan asap

oricon = 16,891 j-fandom still solid

svt's k-fandom isn't at the level of k-armys in 2016, just by looking at their digital charts, carats are still weak. young forever was a repack, i think? with only 1 version and no fansign (i may be wrong). i think, if we really have to compare, dwc is their i need u, similar youtube views and digitals. their trajectory are starting to look more and more similar uh

pretty u: 45 (1st week) - 56 (2nd week) aju nice: 68 - 67 boom boom: 63 - 71 btw, about oricon, i don't see them on the chart either (neither ikon which is a bit weird). they are in tower records daily charts tho. we'll have to wait for tomorrow when weekly chart will be out.

hope they can reach 500k downloads this comeback

melon daily chart: 05/22 - 33 05/23 - 35 (-2) 05/24 - 40 (-5) 05/25 - 46 (-6) 05/26 - 50 (-4) 05/27 - 42 (+8) they are rising

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that's weird then, i don't know why she can't.... ......idk why i thought you were sleeping. maybe we should tell them next time that they can reply in korean if it's easier for them cause we have translators as well.

IT'S ME LJKSDJFGBJKDFSLDJ and it wasn't 2 seconds, it was at least 1 minute are you sure we have korean people here?

they even replied to us in english, they are so cute

THANK YOU SO MUCH BLESS YOUR SOUL