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This is honestly the first time I have ever heard someone say Beyonce was superior to Mariah and Whitney (Even in their primes)...even as a Bey stan
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Not to bring down the vibe of the thread, but the comments against Hyorin's skintone are not *usually* racist, but more so fall under the line of colorsim (WHICH IS STILL VERY BAD). ANYTHING THAT MAKES YOU FEEL LESS THAN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT DAMAGING TO ANYONE IS BAD. Them relating her darker skintone to being anything negative (burnt chicken, ugly, cheap, trash, etc) is very much a problem, and harmful, however it has nothing to do with her race as an Asian.
For an example of how colorism steps into racism, there was the comment/criticism about how if she got any darker she would be African American. Not only did they say dark skin was bad (colorism), but it also implied that being black was a bad thing (racism). I think the next closest thing would be when they said they (Bora and Hyorin) looked South-East Asian during their greeting messages.
Anyway all of this is still very bad. Like her being called burnt chicken/cheap/ugly because she is a slightly darker shade is highkey problematic. The fact that they made a "light" joke about it, and damn near every Sistar article will have a comment about how dark the are says a lot. It's problematic and can make the person think so lowly of themselves. I just wanted to make that distinction because people will call it racism when it falls under something different, as well as colorism and racism can/do intersect and can be connected.
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Hey guys, what do you think about Anita Baker? Is she a contralto? Her timbre is so dark just like a contralto but her upper mix is not so dark, it's actually kinda bright. Does her chest and lower mix done with lowered larynx or she actually uses a hed dominant mix in her upper mix? And based on technicality, is she good? Her musicianship is very good tho.
I really like Beyonce's performance in this one, I could clearly hear the resonance all over the place. But please someone enlighten me..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MDKES1Cvkk
2:56 is it messa di voce? If it is, I heard that messa di voce is one of the hardest technique in classical world, is Bey is THAT good?
4:32 - 4:42 she kept switching from her regular mixed voice to other voice, is it mask placement and nasal placement? Or is it actually not nasal but actually...a falsetto perhaps? lol I'm screwed.
And if anyone have better performance from Beyonce's pefromance technically, please kindly share them with me
Lol I'm kinda obsessed to find resonance in every vocalists/singers that I listen to nowadays. That's why my playlist has kinda changed since I've been here lol.
Beyonce is pretty up there as a vocalist
There is a video dedicated to her skills as a vocalist (from a technical standpoint) and I know that Sweet Love performance shows up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaN2TbWMvuw
As for Anita, I have seen debates of whether she is a lower mezzo or a contralto because some hear a feminine quality in her voice, and others don't (same with Toni Braxton)
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Hello there everybody over here in this beautiful thread .... Miss being around here ... I am soo happy to come back and find all these news, pics, vids, and an amazing comeback song with our beautiful queen

Now, I just have a Q. that is in my mind since a while .... I might find the answer with U as I am new to Kpop in general and to hyolyn in specific .... I have watched A LOT of vids. for hyolyn, variety shows, her drama, so many things and I observed something ....
Before 2013, Hyolyn was always laughing and smiling spontaneously, saying whtever on her mind directly without thinking .... IN SHORT BEING NATURAL, BEING HERSELF ..... and that's the main reason of my love, admiration and attraction to her .... It's a very unique character in her personality that is rare to find in other idols or celebrities .... but nowadays, after 2013, she kinda changed .... not laughing or smiling spontaneously like before, thinking carefully before talking or answering .... being quite most of the time on the show either a variety show, a singing show or even winning stages ... its like she is not like before ..... why is it like that ???
But what made me happy although all of these, is last year (2013) she was less happy than this year .... this year she looks happier and that's a source of happiness and relief

We will never know the true reason, but I just figure the stress of the job was taking a toll on her.
I think she was just tired and it was showing. 2013 was a busy year: two comebacks and a solo debut (Sistar19, Sistar, and then her own at the end of the year), and between those promo eras... various performances, appearances, tv show appearances throughout the year...that's a lot. That doesn't even take into account the behind the scenes work that goes into all of these events. And then you add in the fact that she has been doing it for a few years prior to 2013...it was only a matter of time before it would happen.
Hyorin was probably closing in on her limit and she was showing.
2014 had been a bit lax on her as compared to 2013.
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I streamed the live audio of the concert and Sunmi did sing her part (and if i'm not wrong both versus), there are
some fan account said that Sunmi looked a little schoked when the crowd started singing along


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If there isn't the full cam of Nobody, and if Sunmi didn't take time to sing her part(s), I'm going to be highly upset.
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your new sigs
some of my fav parts in the MVI'm not an expert though, so a second opinion is always advised.
I do think her G#5 on the second verse could be up for debate (orjust one of the better falsetto notes she has hit)And that was the best part of the video for me.
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LOL Ikr? I quite like it, she sounded so nice!
also was that head voice towards the end?
I love the video...she looked perfect.
And I don't think so...it didn't sound like it.
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I Swear feels like the adult version of Loving U (in song and video). Love it. And Hyorin sounds lovely!
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here it is
Now where did people get G5? She didn't hit anything above an E5 mix wise until October
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You're right, he will probably do a decent job with the video(and probably neglect some very good notes too) but can't say the same thing for his comment section when people will ask him questions about Hyorin abilities, but like you said, he'll end up looking bad if he isn't objective. True, they don't really have much say in the arrangements which is sad :/
do you have the link to that interview? I can't seem to find it
I feel like it is the way he speaks about it. Because it is not just Hyorin, like the way he speaks about anyone he doesn't particularly stan for...they get a more critical view. Like the Younha vs Ailee debate is pretty telling.
The whole G5 thing is so unnecessary. They talk about your range as if it is static. It's not just him. Unless you have it now, they automatically think it isn't there. I remember some Minzy stans were upset about them talking about her range and how it is limited. I doubt her range (or Hyorin's mix) is limited, it's just something they don't use. I think they need to word that better. I think if she added more head tones to her mix (like she did during Ring My Bell), then it will happen, but she is a more chest-leaning vocalist (Even though it is an evened out mix). Right now...girl is doing great within her range.
Like I don't want to sound like I think you guys are wrong, because I got issues with him too, but I don't think any worry needs to come, if so...I'm still making my video for her, so there is always that.
And we don't need this negativity. Watch she belt a G5 on one of the new songs, or at I am Singer.
Also I hope no one thinks I am telling them you are wrong.
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I wish a certain person from the vocal thread was not planning on making a Hyorin vocal range video. He's probably one of the most biased people I've come across there and gets pretty butthurt about her improvements that he feels the need to find anything to downplay her
yeah i know who you're talking about but i really don't care about his OPINON whatsoever he even so blind that he acknoledge the fault made by one of hi bias in a cover that both that person and hyorin did just to make apoint that hyorin is inferior but what can we do about it each one of us intitled to his/her opinion + everyone else acknoledge her improvment he just made me laugh when he said that she can no longer hit a G5 and she already admit it forgeting the part when she said that her voice is tired and cann't get that high
Edit: Nevermind
I understand where y'all are coming from.
I'm not a particular fan of this person (for various reasons), but I doubt he would botch a video, or not use her best notes. That's gonna look bad on his part, and with them having to always remind people they do try to remain unbiased, it would look bad for the entire group of them.
He is messy and he has been dragged for that, but it's whatever.
I do agree with him not making the video, because his can be boring or crowded, but eh.
Also he did say that Hyorin said she could not go that high. But he does bring it up way too often. But most of them believe that if you don't show it, there is a chance you can't do it (which is not always the case, especially in k pop where very few have a say in the arrangement of the song).
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I don't know if it can be counted as a sung note, but Hyorin hit a D6 (more than likely can be considered an exclamation) in Ring My Bell @21-22 second mark.
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They posted the rest of the show I think (or at least Hyorin's contributions)
Ring My Bell (with the rest of the guys)
Spend My Life With You (w/ Junggigo)
End Of TIme (her best performance in my opinion)
Hello/Goodbye
She came to show these kids who it is. Like I have never seen her perform like this. Especially on End Of Time...I am slain. Even as a Bey stan I got to give it to her. And the vocals!!!!!

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I asked about it and got a yes the G#5 was HV too

Yes!!!
Now consistency and resonance, and reaching the top of her range (or at least a C6).
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some great news, my friend told me Hyorin used head voice at 2:49, he said and I quote
"More projection and clarity compared to the studio version and it had vibrato. Def HV"

Are we counting the G#5? Because if so then that means she made a leap from F#5 to G#5 in use of her headvoice (even if this is just once)!!!!!
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Another fancam has appeared
Hyorin and Verbal Jint perform Naughty Hands from Starship X concert
Edit: This chick really took 13/14 hours to release another video of the concert...

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WHERE DO THEY KEEP FINDING BEYONCE'S OLD LOOKS? AND WHY ARE THEY NOT GETTING THE CUTE ONES?
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did they give her a Bey outfit?It looks like a gold dress, but if it is a Bey outfit (and one of my least favorite looks from Bey), I'm catching a flight to fight their stylist.
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I wonder if she did a set or did she just do One Way Love and collab stages. i'm praying she got a whole set because there is no reason just to do one solo song and be scattered for the rest of the night.
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I'm excited for all the fancams!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think they'll perform this at the Starship x concert on the 16th
Although I wish it was a duet with Jooyoung insteadThey are, they posted it on the end of the video. Makes me wonder/excited what else will happen that night!
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Starship teasing us with what is to come (HyorinxJungiggo collaboration at one of their concerts)
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lol I dislike those outfits so much! Thank goodness for their recent ones on Inkigayo. Jayson(a journalist from Saipan) said they were there to film for a Fall/September comeback. I hope he's right cause Sistar members are sure being all secret about what they did there.
here's some footage from their Jakarta concert
the audio sucks
THANK YOU!
Yeah I am hoping something else pops up because Touch and Move as an album is very breezy. Like a filler, and something bigger should follow it. But that's just me.
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Official 15& Thread [Jimin Park & Baek Yerin]
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Hello. 15& has been nominated for something on Billboard. They in the run to be a part of Billboard's 21 Under 21 Next class poll.
Right now they are like top 5, but the gap is pretty big. Still it is nice to see them get recognition. You don't have to sign up to voice, just click on their name.
Here is the link