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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
DMUMT preorders from Synnara, Ktown4u and Cfan orders Day 25 (28/10) - 537,557 We're going really well On track to reach 550k easily by the end of the preorder period- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Cfans typically don't place their group orders until the album is released or on the final day, because their orders keep growing until the very end. You can look at the baidu forum threads for every previous album and see that this is true. As soon as the orders are made, the admins post screenshots of the order confirmation, which quickly end up on the baidu forum sales thread. This year, it was revealed that a couple of small fanbases have placed their orders already, so there will be some double counting. However, these were only small groups, somewhere between a few hundred and a few thousand albums, again, going by the info on the baidu forum sales thread.- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
478k ^.^ so we've already smashed that- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
530K I hope we can reach 550K in the last few days, but either way we've done so well ^.^ already up 52K from The War!- 15,302 replies
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​Exols flexing their twitter power
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Don't worry about getting #1 on ktown4u chart Firstly, it's not really important, but secondly, the ktown4u sales will only grow after the album is released when group orders are placed. The War went from 78k to 120k after it was released Even if we don't reach #1 during preorders, we certainly will once the album is released ^.^- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
It must be from both. Some of it would be from sales outside top 10 and some from group orders not counting. The sales from outside top 10 aren't necessarily small, because on the monthly charts you still regularly see gaps of several hundred, sometimes even over a thousand, between albums outside of the top 10 or even top 20- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Yeah probs quite a bit more than 200k, because it passed Universe in that sales ranking over a week ago I think ^.^ so yeah probs about 600k-ish from those 3- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Synnara sales - previous albums Remember - these are not total sales figures. They are calculated by adding only the differences between the top 50 albums in each year and month, so the real number is actually higher. 2017 sales (http://www.synnara.co.kr/sr/sr150Main.do) Universe: 179,574+ The Power of Music (K version): 181,652+ The War (K version): 397,407+ January 2018 Sales (http://www.synnara.co.kr/sr/sr140Main.do - then select January) Universe: 21,038+ February 2018 Sales (http://www.synnara.co.kr/sr/sr140Main.do - then select Feb) Universe: 1,478+ March 2018 Sales (http://www.synnara.co.kr/sr/sr140Main.do - then select March) Universe: 1,108+ Each month after that is about the same, sorry but it's like 50 additions for each one so that's close enough. Total sales until end of march: 203,198 Average about 1k per month from April until the end of october: 210k This is an image of the sales ranking of all of EXO's albums on Synnara. This shows that DMUMT has already outsold Universe. As we know Uinverse has sold at least 210k copies on Synnara in total, I think this means we can assume DMUMT has already sold at least that many as well? I guess our daily total on Synnara is just much lower because we can only count the top 10 and there has been a lot of popular albums on there recently. Have I made any mistakes here, or does this seem logical?- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Synnara sales had a small spike yesterday DMUMT is now about 35k ahead of The War in preorders using these 3 sources Day 22 (25th October) Synnara: 5,462 / 135,051 Ktown4u: 538 / 144,787 Cfans: 233,581 Total: 513,419 EXOVotingSquad's total is out by a bit on twitter, without the cfan numbers- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Synnara posts yearly charts. If someone is willing to add up the difference between all of the top 50 albums on the 2017 chart we would have at least a good idea of sales. At a very quick glance, it's at least 420-450k for the Korean version of the War alone? http://www.synnara.co.kr/sr/sr150Main.do- 15,302 replies
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I don't think the albums are any different. There are only 3 versions. The only difference between the Korean and international versions are the postcards. There are 8 Korean and 8 international. Each album, no matter what version it is, gets one postcard from the correct region. Someone correct me if I'm wrong? this is from memory
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
DMUMT actually surpassed 500k preorders from these 3 sources yesterday on day 20 (23/10) Click here to view the Tweet Cfan update as of yesterday (not included in total above). This addition means we've surpassed 500k 23/10 day 20 - 1,486 / 229,801- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
I mean idk if I believe it but I approve of that level of optimism I just think Synnara isn't as popular of a choice this year for preorders- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Yeah Synnara vs hanteo should have won them some favour lol. I guess the others just upped their competitive game this year. It'll still be a huge preorder total but I doubt we'll beat last year's 200k+ with only about 125k now and album info already released- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Idk what exactly Synnara did last year, but whatever it was, exols must have hated it lol Everywhere else is up massively for preorders while Synnara is down hugely- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
494k 500k soon Hoping we can get 1 mill preorders total, maybe even like 1.1 or 1.2 if we're lucky ^.^- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
They're not based on fanbases, they're real numbers they're not easy to find, but they are there. Soz, but the explanation is a bit long. Synnara doesn't keep a running total of sales for albums that have not been released yet, BUT the sales (preorders) for albums that haven't been released yet are still counted on one of their charts, the one that they update in real time throughout the day and reset at night (so you cannot view numbers from previous days, you can only see the current numbers for the current day). What fanbases do is wait until that realtime chart updates to 24:00 each night and record the numbers. At 00:30 in the morning, it resets with numbers from the new day, so they have to catch it before it resets and the numbers disappear. So yeah if you catch that 24:00 total for each day, you can add them up and create a total amount of sales (preorders) for an album before it is released. You can see these numbers by going here - http://www.synnara.co.kr/sr/sr110Main.do To add another layer of difficulty, they don't simply post the total sales number on this realtime chart. They only reveal the difference in sales between #1 best selling so far that day and #2, then the difference between #2 and #3 etc. until they reach #10. I've circled those numbers for you to see in the image below. You can see from that image, the difference between #1 and #2 is 243 albums. Then between #2 and #3 is 205 albums. If you add up all of those differences, you get the total difference in sales between the #1 selling album so far that day and #10. This means that the #1 album has sold 'at least' that many copies. It will have sold more, but that gap is the only number we have access to prior to release of the album, so it's what we go with. Because it's obviously not the "total" sales, we add a '+' onto the end of the number, like "13,579+ albums sold today". You're more than welcome to ask questions if I didn't explain something well- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
I don't believe they release numbers like Gaon do regularly. I think it's only mentioned in articles about certain albums, but then again I might be wrong. Not much experience with BB. Their album chart is different to Gaon though, as they don't just count physical sales. I believe they count digital sales and download + streaming equivalents (meaning, a certain number of downloads or streams = 1 album sold). So the number they release will include traditional units sold and the streaming aggregate. They will usually give the total number and the breakdown of those 2 as well in any article.- 15,302 replies
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The SBS gayo daejeon isn't an awards festival... it's just an end of year huge music show everyone can go because there is no inside politics w/ awards and such. I hope they attend all 3 of them (idk if lineup for other 2 has been announced yet)
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Cmon SM, release those teasers... We need exols to get hypeeee to save Queen Universe on Gaon- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
omg, so jealous :o- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
The first example you gave is right, but then people will add up all the sales from all charts available around the world to get a "worldwide" sales total. I meant that if the sales count towards both charts, then this total will be double counting some albums :/- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
Am I still the only one confused about amazon albums counting towards korean charts? Assuming the translations I'm seeing here and on twitter are right and this list is for stores that will count on korean charts, doesn't that mean several of those international sites will count on Korean AND US charts? Isn't that double counting if we're being honest?- 15,302 replies
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[X-ËXØ OBSESSION ] EXO General Sales Thread
NickIaus replied to justcoolmuzic's topic in Charts and Sales
A bit late by SM, considering there have probably already been the better part of 1 million preorders made :/ but it's something at least. Hopefully it will help late fans (like myself lol) who are waiting for any more album info or teasers to drop before preordering- 15,302 replies