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Cool fandom name! LOL seriously people. This is a forum. Long replies or a long discussion is not always =/= overreaction. If you understand that we don't have to have the same opinion as VIPs, than why are you embarrassed that we have different opinions from you? Makes me feel like we're wrong for not liking Winner's opening act or something. I think the bolded parts contradict somehow. And if VIPs take this to the next level soon, as in bashing Winner, as you predicted, I believe that is the perfect time for Winner fans to be disappointed of VIPs. Not now when we are merely being the usual vigilant customers. Anyway, I really enjoyed parts of WIN. My faves are the Leadahs BI and Mino (is Mino still the leader?). I think there's nothing wrong about VIPs being open about their opinions as long as there's no bashing/hating. I didn't mean to bother Winner fans. This opening act must mean something to you too. But I hope they understand VIPs too if they weren't that happy. We aren't bashing Winner. :/ Um. I've heard that the "I freefall" phrase came from Seungri's Twitter? What exactly is the story behind this? I'm so curious to know. Anyone? edit: lol I can't say "freefall phrase" straight. I made a tongute-twister

I seriously hope this isn't directed at me coz I don't see "bashing" and "overreaction" in my post. I didn't even bash YG lol. I just didn't like this one thing he's doing. It's sad that your fellow VIPs merely expressing their dislike is embarrassing you. We aren't even bashing Winner. As I said, I approve of this long-standing tradition/promotional tactic. I just don't like how it has to overlap with a BB special event for me. I'd prefer it if BB promotes hoobaes during the hoobaes' OWN promotional period/event. That it when they are supposed to be promoted and where sunbaes should all help them or whatever. It's not even about the hoobaes stealing spotlight lol. BB's spotlight is pretty secure I think. But I see VIPs as YG's clients/customers. We pay money to their product. I believe we have every right to voice our dislike or suggestion (I honestly just see my post above as mere suggestion) to their product. Don't label this bashing. It's a good thing for you that you enjoyed both Winner and BB at the same event. I understand that. Some VIPs didn't like it. Please understand it too. And as I said, doesn't matter for me if this was how BB was promoted before too. It's still wrong for me. Had Seven's fans complained in the past too, I would have understood them and not label it bashing.

For me I don't like it. But I don't think I have the right coz I don't visit their FB page anyway. I remember one of my first posts here saying I feel proud BB is getting "used" repeatedly,shamelessly to promote newer artists meaning they have that much impact. Right now, I just . Maybe because I consider these activities--the dome tours--as really special. All we had for so long are all solos and these tours are our very first time in a long time we get to see them as 5 again, performing together. Not to mention these dome tours are expected to be record-breaking. So this is supposed to be a special event/ period for both BB and VIPs. I don't mind at all for BB promoting their hoobaes. In fact, it'll make me proud, as I said before. But I would prefer if it happens during the hoobaes' promotional period/activities. Like if Winner promotes a song, let BB promote it on Twitter or on some show. Or if hoobaes perform on Inkigayo, let BB come visit or ask votes from audience whatever. Not that hoobaes are promoted in front of VIPs while BB themselves are doing their own promotions/activities (unless it's an intended joint activity). That's just plain stealing my precious VIPs moments . Like some sort of invasion of space. Don't care if it happened before or BB was promoted in that way too. It's still wrong for me--wrong for both the artist and the fans. tldr I approve of that long-standing tradition of YG/other companies of using seniors to promote juniors but YG needs to know when/how to do it right without disrespecting their artists fans or the artists themselves. I don't think I'm being a spoiled-brat/oversensitive VIP with this.

I didn't like the Who You Japanese PV but I love the Korean full ver. when they're basically the same. I don't know y because I know it's not just the credits. And congrats on the Vogue cover oppa!!! I'm happy for TOP. I really like the teaser (not necessarily the concept). Probably one of the best this year for me. It's the most intriguing. Made me really curious to hear the song. I wonder if this song reflects what YG wants that's why he finally gave in or will this be a non public-friendly song that YG said TOP wanted to make? And lol I can see hearts and rainbows whenever I read YB's interviews. They're so cheesy and cute. He's really precious. Did he and Ri suddenly confess to GD cos GDon is famous in Korea now?

son daejun jaejong gong chongchorum We why chongchongchong we chongchorom !!@^$&!(^#FG(!#^(&RB )&!%^$&V!#^B#YRB!&* Ringa linga ling ringa linga ling Ringa linga ling ringa linga ling #jamming Didn't they tease us of the MV early this day? So they were sure earlier and then suddenly it gets delayed? Could it have something to do with how well the dance perf MV is doing? Once the official MV is out the attention, hence views, gets divided. Maybe they're giving the dance perf a few days while its hot...? Delaying a few days/hours won't hurt the anticipation anyway. If anything, the anticipation(+frustration) will likely grow. :/

*relieved. Expecting to see diff genres where RnB is one of them. Not a big fan of RnB but I miss YB and RnB together. Somehow, seeing him do another style seem awkward...? Back to the video again, I'm bothered that YB is barely smiling. It's supposed to be a dance/party song but he doesn't seem to express it or that he seems to focus on doing well on the choreo that he isn't embracing the meaning of the song that much... I don't know :/ I've always viewed dance as an interpretation of music and not just a combination of moves. I think YB focused too much on choreo. Still great coz his moves were spot on and the choreo was amazing and it must have been difficult for Tae to keep track of the many changing angles while learning the choreo for just 2 DAYS!!! tldr: it didn't look effortless. He should have let loose and enjoyed the song more. How is YB doing on the charts now? I wish he'll have longevity so his promo cycle will be longer. And I loled at GD's self-made Who You MV, It was so cute and feels personal but I'm glad he isn't a music director. He chose the right career. And my baby's Japanese sounds Korean omg.

omg I slept and the thread went from 978-995. love the song. love the dance. hair is fine watchu guys talking bout But I wish they released the official MV first. And I wish YB wore a more stand-out outfit. The camera angles are great, it adds to the effect. But the clothes should have helped him stand out so the eyes go directly to him whenever he's within the camera's view. I can understand people mentioning GD coz his "mark" is there or whatever but surely the comparison on who's better is unnecessary? Weird. Spazzing to the max is definitely possible w/o comparing YB and GD. some out-of-place opinion: And lol I was right. The song IS about enjoying/partying, don't ruin my "vive" etc. wooohooo YB's back. At first, I don't get the direction the song is going but it gets stuck later and I LOVE it. I'm curious now about the live perfs. Will YB's album be full or mini? anyone know?

I just watched all 4 parts of GD's IC guesting, some w/o subs. I'm really impressed with GD this time. During their first meeting at YG building, Hyung Don was very insistent on writing the lyrics and leading the song. His suggestions "Oong Oong" and "why are you doing this, wanna try something?", etc were hilarious at first even GD and the staff can be heard laughing but later it got me scared coz GD is just letting Hyung Don make the choices. I was thinking "this pair is done TT__TT". But omg when the snippets of all their songs were shown, GDxJHD's was the best . GD's beats were awesome. I can still hear the "Hong Hong" but it didn't sound weird. They managed to make it sound great! Their performance was fun too! But the final song could have been more cohesive. -_- Glad the studio version was loads better. YB's teaser is interesting but a little messy for me. I like the sound, both this and the first teaser. So which is the real meaning of Ringa Linga? "Round and round" or "Hand"? This really looks like a complete 180 from the YB we know (musically). Wonder how he's gonna handle this. My curiosity has definitely peaked. TOP oppa, happy 5th birthday!!!! I wish you a happy and satisfying career, both in acting and in music! Thank you for your bingu-ness and for being BB's hyung. I hope one day you'll finally have the urge to undress on-cam. You love VIPs right? Don't worry if you don't have Dae's body. We'll manage. You are the best Jpeg in the world!!!! Happy bday Joanne. I wish you a TOP-notch day!

I haven't listened to HB for a long time either and I love that album. I've been really distracted and busy lately. I actually wanted YB's album to come out already. I also think YB prefers this too that's why I'm quite disappointed it's being pushed again to January. But well... What I meant by my question is: Is Ringa Linga confirmed to be the title track already? Or is it just one of the tracks to be put in the album? Sort of how CDE introduced GD's album so it was shown first? I really like the beat of Ringa Linga. Makes me sadder that their fans are fighting each other. I can totally dig how you feel in your first two paragraphs. Thx for not hating GD I'm a GD stan but as for me, I actually wanted it to have YB all over if it were to be the title track because I've already spent a lot of time in NB defending BB saying each member is so musically involved in fact YB will completely be producing/composing in his nxt album lol. Turns out YG's "producing" definition is not same as YB's. But, regardless of who else is involved, YB I think pretty much confirmed right that he did oversee the entire making of the album. This album is how he wanted it to be. As I said in another forum, doesn't matter what genre, I believe YB's music taste is great regardless.

lol sorry. i dnt remember ayfa's tune anymore. It's been long since I listened to old BB songs. YB is to have 2 title tracks right? Is the teaser already certain to be one of them or is it just an album intro like Ri's or one of the album tracks like GD's teaser?

I expect YB's to topple it actually, Is it really about Korea? O.o From Andy's updates, I think it will be something about having fun and living life, "put your hands up like you just regained your country..." "go round and round ringa linga ringa linga..." something...And the choreo for that part will be putting the hands up etc. I didn't know that's what songwriting meant. my brain's not working ryt now. what's ayfa? My fave answer of all recent interviews from all members. OT5 TT_TT Because YB had to bother YG for his music? I heard kvips and fans of some members have long hated YG and recently, it's gotten worse? I don't know exactly because of what tho

I think it was @running_wild (?) who shared an inside info.

the title reminded me of this which I like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eX4h8tfLN4 But from the meaning of the title, YB must mean this song lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TGxv5pFEzg I like the beat and the teaser itself. The snippet gives feels but doesn't give away too much info to keep the curiosity until release.

guys, do you have any translations to this? really curious what the elderly woman is saying...juseyo...

I thought it was TOP's interview fml But that's still a relief. But TOP is really still interested in music right? He does plan on a solo album so .. That part of the interview though which says he wants to do music when he acts and he wants to act when he does music doesn't quite sound right to me though. Sounds worrying.Hope he's happy.

I think GD's next year is same as YG's nxt year which is not the nxt yr that we all know as 2014 so I don't think we should get all worked up over that sub-unit as of yet. And pls don't call gd fans selfish wotad. It was mol, a gd bias, who first posted here openly that he voted for Ri cos Gd barely even danced. -_- And if you really ask them, ask them nicely or ask them convincingly. You're doing poorly on both. Might as well bribe or blackmail them instead. And many here are voting for Ri too so don't worry. We should be spazzing about YB's comeback instead. YUMbae!!! I'm excited to read his interviews. I wanna know what took so long for him to release this album. And I wanna know what he thinks of BB as 5. GD already said he wants to continue as 5. TOP, I'm so happy to be wrong, is still passionate about music . Ri already implied he wants to continue for the fans...I want YB's and Dae's takes. OT5~ TT__TT I'm feeling really positive about YB's comeback. Not sure about the photos but he's trying to grow as a musician and artist, I think. As long as the music's good, I don't care what genre he throws. What artist doesn't desire to create something new? Let him. I'm curious to see how YUMbae evolves and carry a diff image/concept. But I agree, I don't want him to loose RnB completely. That's his trademark. It worked for him and people identify him with it. If he continues with RnB and succeeds again, soon he will be the benchmark/standard for that genre. Every other idol who does RnB, YB's name will be brought up as standard. That would be awesome.

Yeah you're probably right. lol sorry I didn't save the pics. My net connection doesn't allow. can't even visit this thread as much as i want coz of the pics sorry... GD, then TOP , then Dae, then YB. Waiting for Ri to go blonde next. Though I doubt it. Weird. This GD pic is same as that of him supposedly watching the boobies. Not just similar but same, judging from the two people beside him that also have exactly same pose. :/ LOL wonder which one is real. It looks like this one is though. Source for your "fact"? @mol have mentioned a lot of times recently here though that GD keeps on trending on Korean sites(?) even for the smallest, most nonsense details. And the comments have been relatively positive too compared to before. Although I'm not sure whether to take this as indication of the public's interest. What's your indication? Yeah, I'm not feeling YB's adlibs during live. But YB's passion during their live stages is one of the best for me out of BB (at least from some fancams I saw). Looks really genuine to me like he's really trying to give his best. So it's probably just him getting overexcited. So that's really GD? Can't recognize him. omg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4dIb9zlvv8&feature=player_embedded#t=157 I don't understand a thing yet I laughed a lot. Not a good sign though . I should understand first before I laugh. Anyone have the subs?

Ow ok. I didn't see the comments with pitchforks, though. Happy birthday, unnie/oppa!!!

I was one of those who downvoted. Sorry Kween Andy. <3 <3 But why is it a big deal if one is downvoted? Isn't it just another way of letting the poster know you disagree with his opinion? And why is it a big deal when your post gets a lot of replies that disagrees? I wouldn't call it defense mechanism. For me, it might just be an unpopular opinion. Please don't take it personally or let it bother you or hold a grudge against me. As long as we aren't cursing/ downgrading each other, I see this as nothing more than a healthy discussion. And this is a forum.

lol that's why I said I don't argue with you coz I agree they are "stupid lyrics" . Even GD said they are nonsense. What brought me to make that post was when you said, BB's lyrics are better coz the members might have vetoed his "stupid stuff". You may not have said it but I believe you have implied there was something wrong with his stupid stuff for it to warrant being vetoed. :/ The first three words of your post was "To his credit..." but honestly, its the other members you are crediting more than anything else in that post, not GD, for the "better lyrics". It's okay, though. It was your opinion. So, I also laid out my opinion that I appreciate his stupid stuff.

Happy Birthday!!! How old are you now? If my connection weren't sh*tty, i would have spammed you. I hope you have a TOP-notch day today? Now that I'm into GD/BB, there are other GD songs that I like more. But Crayon is one hell of an attractive song. It makes you party lol. And the video is one of those few ones that you want to replay over and over coz you can't take everything in all at once lol.

His apple hair looked good in that pic with a kid. (Sean's daughter?) I think I voted for "not voting" for GDTOP badge lol I can change it for you and @mol but I don't know how.

Some people dislike. Some people like. I like OOAK! Which songs are people complaining this time? CDE? GD gets more flak over EVERYTHING not just lyrics compared to the other members. No matter how much good lyrics he contributes to BB, he will always get more flak over EVERYTHING. The more popular you are, the more criticism you get. Esp in Kpop. :/ Kpop fans like to trash/make fun of the stupid lyrics in Crayon, etc but it's what got me into kpop. Sadly, no matter how good lyrics are if it isn't that attractive musically, nobody else is gonna enjoy it other than Kpop fans and Koreans coz no one else understands it. I've heard of BB before (I've seen their Lies(?) MV on MTVAsia) but I didn't care for their "brilliant" songs before coz they just don't stuck to me. No recall at all and I didn't understand them anyway. My first GD song was Crayon and I became a fan ever since. Call me shallow but honestly why would I, or any non-kpop fan, bother to check out the lyrics if they aren't attracted to the song? The "get your Crayon2x~Head shoulders knees toes swag check" part was the only thing that I understood but I got LSS over it. I find myself singing the lines mindlessly. Plus the video was seriously interesting and fresh. Sometimes, it's the entirety of the song and not only lyrics that makes the music brilliant. So Crayon may have "stupid lyrics" but for me, it's a brilliant song. Thanks to Crayon I got to know of his brilliant lyrics like That xx, Without You, etc. If GD's intention was to pull in new fans, not just old kpop fans, he definitely succeeded with me. Not trying to argue Tran. I just wanna say, for short, that I appreciate his "stupid lyrics." (sometimes) :D I'd say that Crayon managed to attract what the brilliant Lies/HaruHaru didn't manage to.

lol when I was lurking at akp, the members there are called Pervnoona Council coz most of the time they just perv. From lurking, these are my scientific findings : (don't expect pics lol; Our Maknae Kimmy darling pls don't open. ^^) Don't mind me.

lol I didn't expect the apple hair. I haven't seen this MBC fancam. Thanks. ^^ I just love polls and surveys lol and of course seeing Jiyong win. Whaaaaaaat? Your english is great! Actually I feel awkward with english too. I barely use it irl. I haven't seen that music festival vid. Thanks. omg yes!! How can I forget GD+IC vids!! Especially this vid: (His laugh compilation) Also, his vids with Gaho!!! you mean the hair in that "black is not a color" vid? I like it too. Yup, crooked is a visual delight and meaningful. Is it true, he directed it? Because, when he was in London, there were accounts of the extras that the staff were kinda instructing them like, "GD wants it to be this way.../we don't know yet but GD says...."----those lines. So I was thinking, O.O is he the one directing it? That's why I didn't have high hopes for the MV lol. But it turned out great. I feel stupid for asking this coz I have a feeling everyone knows already but.....who is Insooni?