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Heechul's over the top behavior with women is one of the many reasons I think he's gay lol. He's never come across someone who's truly interested in women, more like someone who knows what's expected of him and has fun with it. Heechul has said many times before he's someone who likes to play around and that's why he loves doing variety so much. Teasing his female coworkers is another way he has fun. If you actually look at his interactions with girls he's gotten close to, you'll notice that almost all of them treat him like their bff or sister. Women he's worked with have remarked on this many times. Also he literally calls himself "Heechul imo-nim" (Aunt Heechul in English). I think the reason he has so many female friends isn't because he's a player, it's because he's only interested in being friends. If you look at his older stuff especially, it's very clear he sees women as competition for male attention lol.

There are people who take it too far, as with anything, but being top/bottom/switch/neither is just another part of a gay person's identity. Trying to force someone into a role based only on appearances and stuff or reduce them to being a certain role is what's wrong. Many straight people probably don't even think of these things because there the expectations are different. Would most straight girls wonder if a guy they're interested in prefers to do the fucking or be the one getting fucked? How about the opposite? Would they consider it of themselves? Most likely not. There's no equivalent for straight people outside of more niche things. I never got the hate on bottoms. Rather I do, but I think it very stupid and it says a lot more about the person doing the hating. And besides, where would we be without them? Bruh, you think I'm brave enough to take dongs up my ass? Think again.

I'm bi/pan, but yeah, I find myself thinking exactly that very often lol. I don't even mean to, it's like a subconscious thing. Buried by the company. Well we can't have people being gay for real, now can we?

Actually, judging from its coloration, that bruise has been there for some time. I ain't know where he got it, but that's a bruise for sure lol.

Bruh... I feel you. I'm glad knowing that lgbt issues becoming more open helped you come to terms with things. It helped me too. I legit didn't know being anything but straight was even an option until I was well into my teens. Nobody talked about those sorts of things where I grew up, and my family is... well, half of them are quite conservative and being catholics probably adds to that. I've said this before, but my neighborhood was so conservative and catholic that seeing two guys hold hands and two girls kissing just blew my fucking mind when I was finally able to expand my horizons, so to speak. So I agree that representation helps immensely. I've always said this- it shouldn't matter that someone is lgbt, but the fact is that it does matter, and, until that changes, this is something that's necessary.

Heenim plz

HOLD UP, is that seriously a thing lesbians get?

Savage. Shh, no tears... only Minseok now. That pole dancing video.

And Kris never existed Agree except for Kyungsoo, who I've thought of as gay for a while now, and Kai, who pings sometimes but not with anyone specific. Still have no fucking clue with Kai and that bugs the piss out of me. He's the Minho of EXO for me. Suho and Xiumin being straight... pffffft So much negging in the thread lately, probably by specific fans, if I'm guessing correctly. Don't let it bother you too much. Have an upvote.

Most of them actually... Taemin and Jonghyun Taemin and Key Kai and Sehun D.O. and Sehun, Baekhyun, Tao, Suho, Xiumin Xiumin and D.O, Kai, Sehun, Baekhyun, Suho Suho and all Exo members Yunho and Junsu Heechul and any current Suju member... lbr they're not his type Ryeowook and Mimi, Sungmin Sungmin and Mimi Probably more but I'm too tired to think of any right now.

Someday people will stop sleeping on King Jackson.

To think there are people who believe Baekhyun to be straight with those A level bj skills.

Thanks, that was an interesting read. The other article he links to, "Man Dates," is a good read, too. I didn't realize how many of these unspoken social rules I follow subconsciously...

Holy shit, you know straight guys? I thought they were only a myth. I've tried to capture one before by luring them out with Bud Light and sportsball and it hasn't worked. Tips? You're contradicting yourself a lot and I have no idea if you're being serious, but I never saw anything between Suho and Chen. I don't think Chen likes men sexually at all and Suho wouldn't date another EXO member.

Yeah, whatever it is, they've become closer. Like I said, it's not a bad thing, just different. Chanyeol, eh... he's always seemed mostly straight, though he does have some questionable moments. My knowledge of him is very limited lol.

The limit is your own comfort. Why do something you're seriously uncomfortable with that's also completely unnecessary just to make your fangirls scream when there are a million other ways to get the same result? It's far from irrefutable proof, I already agreed, but it's hard to imagine a guy who was uncomfortable or disgusted by the thought doing something so unnecessary. If it were jpop, I might not think too hard on it, but kpop fanservice is so tame in comparison.

I'm sure he was playing it up for the cameras, but all the same, there's a limit to fanservice. Hard to imagine a guy who wasn't at least curious doing something like that, let alone with a coworker he has to see everyday.

It lives forever in our memories.

Saw this topic name come up in the recently replied and now I'm sad again.

"All six actors must be straight men . . . we think straight men will suit the series better." So, let me see if I'm understanding this correctly. They rejected any gay applicants because they thought straight men would be more suited to play roles in a gay drama.

Yeah, there's no tension indicative of a possible romantic interest that I see, just an easygoing friendship and a big ball of pent up sexual energy lol. I imagine it's convenient for some non straight members of an idol group to relieve stress with each other. I'm not entirely sure myself and before I would have said nothing about them stood out to me, but, since early 2016, their dynamic seems different. There was always this weird tension between them despite being friends, but, since last year, it seems like it's not there anymore. They seem more genuine towards each other now. It's not a bad thing.

That's what I get for posting while I'm half asleep. These two...

FIFY Dang, that's a flirty gesture if I ever saw one. That's BTS, right?