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As someone who helped create OH, this is quite sad to hear. 

Has this been posted?

 

 

lol

That's the same reaction I had to Kai when I saw him.

This in fact raises my suspicions lol because this has to mean that somewhere somehow a gay person got power in the industry that is so ridiculously mean to Holland.

 

The industry ain't blind. They know he is gay. It just means that many of the badass people there are bi or gay to get Heechul all the support he's enjoying.

 

And I think Jo Kwon, Woohyun, Key, Sungjong, Sehun- the gays, all enjoy this power.

 

Which leads to my next question as to where is this power coming from? Is the industry already accepting of the LGBT?

 

Are they using sexual favours for power?

Idk who said idol industry is an 'animal kingdom' but it's worth noting it.

 

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Oh, the entertainment industry has always been full of LGBT people. It's expected. Somehow we're disproportionately more attracted to the arts.

Some trade favors, some don't. That's not exclusively an LBGT thing, obviously. It's easy for industry execs to look the other way when their talent is raking in those coins. Not just with LGBT people, but all sorts of things. It's a scary world.

Jongdae has been spotted with his non celeb girlfriend shopping jewlery sometime in 2018 but it went totally under the radar since i guess noone cared, and i think his ex was his childhood friend. 

Is that right? My boy's gettin it. His girlfriend is a lucky woman. 

I don't know why anyone would think that those kpop prediction accounts have legit supernatural powers and predict stuff? It's ridiculous.

 

We are on the same boat sis

I'm not a sis, but good luck to us then. I must them once even if I have to go abroad. 

Gunheechul IS painfully obvious

 

Yet no one sees them and I hope dispatch doesn't out them

 

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There's no way Dispatch would out Heechul without his consent. That guy has some fucking connections in the industry. If they out anyone, it would be either something agreed upon or artists from a shady lesser-known company unwilling to pay up.

Xiumin and Suho ready to throw it all away for TVXQ.

 

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Haha I saw this earlier. He always has the funniest reactions to seeing male idols. But all I can think about is how unfair it is that I haven't seen TVXQ live yet. 

Oh my god, can someone tell me how to upload pics from my PC? Because when I try to add a pic, it requires to enter a URL...Why it has to be so complicated, why there's no normal upload button? I thought maybe i need to upload it to 'my media' but i can't find how to do it either. I can't even google anything because i have no idea how this type of forums is called

This type of message board is an IP Board. Tbh uploading from pc has never worked properly. You're better off using an image hosting site like imgur, postimage, imagevenue, etc. 

What.

Large Tao post incoming. He's been up to a lot  

First off, an updated version of the old bendy!Tao gif:

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Just for the lolz:

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And now onto the juicy bits --- Tao's been having some fun with Jackson Yee   

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Jackson: "Tao would send me photos of Huang TaoTao (the crossdress version of Tao/his female name) and ask, 'Is she cute? Can you introduce her Weibo to me? Stuff like that.'"

 

Tao (in gay panic mode): "It's just because I really had no other options. I have no girlfriend, so I can only send photos of myself."

Hard to hear/the clip cuts off but I think Tao says "Change the question(?)"

 

From the same day:

Tao, asking Jackson: I'm your ge (hyung), right?

Jackson: Yes.

Tao: Do you love me?

Jackson: Yes.

Tao: Say, 'I love you.'

Jackson: Why?

Tao: Just SAY it! I want to hear! Usually I'm (unclear - busy?) and don't have time to hear. Today I --

Other celebrity dude, telling Jackson: Don't be fooled (by Tao), ok? You're a small child -- Seriously, don't be tricked. 

Tao, to Jackson: You took me out to eat and then I said 'I love you.' Today, you say to me, 'I love you.'

Jackson: I love you.

Tao, hugs Jackson: *high pitched* OOOHOOOOOOOO

Jackson: What are you doing?

Tao: It's ok, it's ok.

Tao at the other two celeb dudes: Do you two love your girlfriends? Just tell me. You don't have to say whether you love me, just say whether you love your girlfriend!

 

Here's Tao mentioning dating experiences and Jackson again:

 

 

At 2:13: My dating experiences are few. Looking back, my past experiences were not very mature (RIP TAOHUN). Now I want a mature relationship but I don't have the chance because the right person hasn't appeared yet. I'm not the type to coax girls. I will look at the situation. I don't really like those girls who require their boyfriend to coax/console them even when they're the one in the wrong. It would be very tiring because my work makes me very busy, and I wouldn't have the time to coax her. Maybe I'm saying this just because I don't have a girlfriend. I don't know what kind of person I will meet in the future.

 

Q: Which crossdressing man looked prettier than you (when you were also crossdressed)? 

 

Tao: Apart from Zhu BiShi, they were all fairly pretty. Haha. I saw QianXi's (Jackson Yee's) crossdressing was also quite pretty. 

 

Under this video was this comment: 

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It says, "Tao represents China's attractive men, not attractive women. You must not become a "niang pao" (I'm not exactly sure how derogatory this is, but it may be similar to sissy/gay/pussy boy. When I Google "niang pao," quite a few images are Luhan, some are Lay and Kris, and I saw one of Tao). You must not revoke God's gift to you. When God put such a delicate face on a male body, you should present yourself with male charm. Only then can you have a future. 

 

I used my shitty Chinese to reply: Why can't you let him be himself? If he likes being pretty there's no harm in that. He has his own style and that's not a bad thing; there's no such "this is wrong, this is right" in this situation. He just likes feminine clothes. Why do you care so much?

idk if my Chinese even makes sense. halp

 

The reply:

The market is China, and China is a country that does not accept homosexuality. For very gay/femme boys(?) (niang pao), China really cannot accept. As a regular person, who cares about you? But as a star -- and this is just a friendly reminder -- you really mustn't become too niang pao and waste the nineteen years of hard work that got you to where you are today.

 

Someone reply for me pls  Idk how to respond coherently in Chinese I'm just dead at this point

 

No wonder Tao keeps specifying 'girlfriend' in his interviews. He probably knows that his own fans will jump him  

 

Spoilers: Tao and Jackson crossdressing

 

http://p3.pstatp.com/large/1dbf0002e39d06c7776e

 

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWpBSnjVwAAZvU7.jpg

 

Tao also really likes to emphasize that his only ideal girl is himself:

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This concludes my long ass Tao post. Sorry for the length 

 

*EDIT*: Someone already wrote up a Chinese reply!! TT_TT so amazing (under spoiler)

 

https://twitter.com/STAYMYUNIVERSE/status/972380913962307584

But damn, Tao in that first gif

Watching that 30-something second clip of Tao and Jackson Yee alone makes me wonder how anyone could think Tao is straight. How?? If he was still in EXO, he and Sehun would be competing for the spot of top gay.

That "niang pao" thing, though... that's shitty. I'm sure he's affected by it, since it's still the most common mentality towards gay people, cross-dressers, trans* people, etc. Maybe that's why Luhan's acting like such a tryhard lately, too. All these brain dead bigots thinking men having feminine features or mannerisms makes them less of a man. 

Well, good to see Tao's still being Tao, even if he feels more pressured to act straight...

I'm not getting into detail about the whole "is this or that couple real or not" again, but I will remind you guys of one thing- the company does what's best for itself. Not its employees. It doesn't matter where you are, a company can, will, and do throw their own employees under the bus to save face for themselves. It doesn't matter if a dating scandal hurts the artist or the group, as long as the company comes out on top in the end.

What do you mean 

The kind that loses their sense...

don't resist it

we'll gladly take you in

I don't think I even can. 

Don't fight it 

But I'm becoming one of those fans and this fills me with shame. 

Please help, I think I'm falling more in love every day. 

He's a hideous, unholy demon from hell, but his fashion sense is on point.

 

Most people in here think he's bi, but I think he's gay. Receipts:

• When Exo were guessing about the storyline in a music video, he said that the two men in the MV could be in love with each other (even though the MV showed the men trying to woo a girl)

• Mentioned K Will’s Please Don’t music video

• Baekhyun once said that Suho is always on his phone - he is always talking with someone quietly. Baekhyun said he was curious so he decided to eavesdrop for a couple of days. Then Baekhyun said he was surprised because he always heard a man’s voice on the phone. Chanyeol also said “I became more careful with Suho after thatâ€, which was cut out of the actual show

• Possible relationship with an actor called Donghwan, they have been hanging out together for a few years now. Donghwan called Suho his mother’s third son. He also posted a picture of him and Suho at what looked like a sauna date and tagged it #itsbeen3years #together

• Has acknowledged Exo’s fanboys with stuff like “I like that but we have male fans as well!†[when talking about possible fanclub names with Baekhyun and Sehun], and “Beautiful girls…and there are also beautiful boys as well right?†[fanclub message]

• Question: Right now cat boyfriends and dog boyfriends are very popular, which type do you think you are? Answer: A dog type of boyfriend, because with guys I am very loyal, with girls I am polite and mannered, more of a gentlemanly type.

• Has presumably watched or at least knows Addicted, a famous Chinese gay drama – at an awards show, he motioned between the two main actors while talking to Chen

• Him and DO went to see Jo Kwon’s play "Priscilla"

• Someone asked him who his favourite characters in Evangelion are, and he said he didn’t like any of the girls, he likes Shinji and Kaworu

• On Hello Counselor, the MC asked him about his worries/concerns. Suho thought about it while continuously touching Sehun’s thigh, so the MC jokingly said “coming outâ€

 

Hope this helps you in making your decision 

 

LOL Suho is a Shinji/Kaworu shipper? What a coincidence.

 

D&E watched the first sunrise of 2018 together, as usual:

 

 

 

 

 

We need a little sweetness in these trying times.

P.S. Happy New Year, everyone!

That's so goddamn romantic it makes me sick. Or maybe that's the alcohol. Happy New Year, everyone.

 

Another thing that convinced me about them being together is actually the other members. If you pay close attention to how they react and behave during some moments you can notice that it is like they have an inside joke or something they all know about Jongin and Kyungsoo. In particular Suho and Jongdae. Stuff like this occurs not only in old EXO interviews/shows but also during their recent promotions with The War. Only Kyungsoo's behavior that isn't as open towards Jongin as viceversa makes me doubt, and of course a pinch of realism too LOL, 'cause even though it is statistically possible that LGBT idols exist, doesn't mean Kaisoo is necessarily real. But hey it's fun shipping them because they have some amazing moments.

 

KyuHyun with MinHo at JongHyun's funeral :

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why the fuck would you post that here?

Ah, my boy Xiumin is finally getting more recognition. 

People never pick up on him. I guess it's because he's so private. He stays in the background, doesn't offer much info about himself, doesn't have social media (and even if he did, it would just be endless pictures of his cat).

 

• Possible relationship between him and Luhan (though I know people have mixed views)

• 5. Which type of male will get your appreciation the most? X: This question is hard to answer. It’s not female, but male, I’ve never think about it, so it will be awkward!

• Vague answers to ideal type question 

• Posted a picture of shirtless Changmin on his Instagram

• Told Ren he looked good

• Likes Adam Lambert 

• First Exo member to meet HSC, an out gay man

• Friends with N from VIXX (who is speculated to be gay)

• Said “I don’t really know†in an interview when asked what he first looks at in a girl

• Was supportive when Sehun said “I like men†on a stage

• Him and Sehun had interesting moments together in the Kokobop MV

 

I don't really know what he is, just like with Chanyeol, but I'm leaning towards him liking men. Unfortunately he's really private so it's harder to have receipts for him, so I think you just have to make your own conclusions.

 

Also I feel like I'm in the minority in this thread because I think Kyungsoo and Kai both like men rip me

 

I gotchu fam. 

I haven't thought Kyungsoo was straight since I first saw him back in 2012. He's just gotten better at hiding things about himself. Kai has been more difficult, but, at the same time, I wouldn't be very surprised if it turned out that he likes guys.

I don't think a whole group can all be straight/bi/gay. Although SHINee is an interesting group I've been into...

 

I would say Minho is straight, bit still accepting towards others. Onew would be straight, most likely, but bi if he's anywhere on the homosexuality scale. Taemin and Kibum would be gay, almost definitely. Jonghyun, possibly would have been bi, maybe leaning towards guys?

 

And EXO; Sehun pings me - he pings everyone. Junmyeon also pings me a bit too, he does have his moments. Baekhyun is maybe just bicurious, I believe. I think he'll come to recognise his sexuality rather soon, whatever it ends up being. Yixing is definitely straight, along with Kyungsoo, Chanyeol and Jongdae.

 

Minseok is interesting, I'd honestly say he's aromantic, but some things make me think twice. Jongin is also interesting... I believe he's primarily straight, but is capable of developing feelings for a man. He seems like the type, to me, that'd get married to a woman, but realise that it's not what he wants, and leave to seek out a male partner.

 

Just my thoughts, seeing as these two groups have been mentioned a fair bit recently.

I mean, I'm not straight, but I'm pretty sure that's not something a "primarily straight" person would do.

For god's sake, again? Changmin is not homophobic. He didn't like fanservice, didn't like Jaejoong clinging onto him, and he wanted to be his own man and not the group baby, but he's never done or said anything that indicated he wasn't supportive of those around him. I've already gone through this and not doing it again, but I've followed him for years and if he gave any indication that he was truly bothered by anything LGBT, I've never seen it. It's a bit annoying that this keeps coming up.

 

If you were to rank who pings you the most to least in your bias groups how would you rank it?

 

But I only have one and it has only two members. 

Well, I can do the original lineup...

DBSK:

Jaejoong

Yunho

Junsu

Changmin

Yoochun

Oh, I can do SuJu, too.

Heechul

Ryeowook

Siwon

Sungmin

Donghae

Eunhyuk

Kyuhyun

Leeteuk

Kangin

Yesung

Shindong

Okay Baekhyun

 

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Baekhyun later that night, probably:

(I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they've fucked before.)

 

So Sungwoon is not just best friends with Kai and Taemin, he's also friendly with Baek?

 

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look at him all cozy in Kai's lap and whispering with Taemin

 

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he's so adored

 

by some of the most discussed people in here

 

which is also

 

interesting

 

Shit, that kid's got 2 boyfriends and I can't even get one girlfriend. 

Yup, a lot of people are miserable with their lives and try to look down on someone else's life to make themselves feel better. It's better to ignore people like that, and I think these 2 are doing a good job of it? Jaeduk just smiles when people tease them, or call him Tony's wife. I've seen that on many occassions (I've developed an obsession for Sechskies recently :P )

 

Tony tries to save face sometimes, but he's very assertive on NOT living apart from Jaeduk lol :D Moon Hee Jun tried to convince him a lot in that Mom's diary episode and he never budged. He ended up saying he wanted a girl like Jaeduk coz he liked his personality. 

 

And ya, that will thing was so coupley. I mean, I can't imagine saying something like that to a friend (even my best friend). Family comes first in will and all, right? They're so brazen though, which is refreshing. 

 

As for Tony's mom, I was watching a couple of Mom's diary episodes. She doesn't actively seem to hate Jaeduk or anything. She definitely hated their lawyer friend and wanted him out. She was open about that. In an episode, one of the guests openly asked if it wasn't better if they were separated, and she was all like "It's not like they are going to be married even if they do live separately". LOL. 

 

And Jaeduk did say they aren't going to listen to anyone. They are 40 year old, financially stable guys. I don't think what others think bother them much anymore. 

 

The only thing I was confused with, and still am, is that they seem to not be sharing a room together (their rooms are too small to be shared by two people) and they had another guy living with them until recently (their lawyer friend). But that might be a front they put out in broadcasts, so who knows. 

 

They did spend their life savings (according to Tony) remodeling their house. Nothing beats that.  

I see, I guess his mother has at least somewhat come to terms with it. I should watch some of those episodes, too.

I'm sure they're both steadfast in their decision, but it doesn't mean hearing stuff like "it's wrong" and such doesn't hurt still. I think it's admirable how they support each other, yet there are people who will think it's disgusting just because they're both men. Maybe it's a good thing I don't understand it. I like to see people with such strong feelings for each other.

I don't know about their lawyer friend (is he a freeloader or something?), but it's not a bad thing to have separate rooms. Some couples prefer that. You do what works for you.

Spending your savings on remodeling a house together is like the most married life thing ever lol. Legit everyone I know who's married and owns a house together does that. 

 

They ping like crazy here. Dudes are together and from the comments, it looks like they are doing a good job of keeping the homophobic fans in the dark.    Good for them! They get to have the best of both worlds. 

Those MCs aren't wrong- things like decorating a house together, managing money together, wills for each other, etc, are certainly things married couples do. There are friends that might do some of those things together, but not all of them. They really do give off that long term couple vibe.

But... I feel sad, too. It's obvious they're not accepted by everyone and it does affect them. The way Jaeduk talks about Tony's mother wanting to separate them, or how their relationship makes others uncomfortable, they must go through a lot every day. Why are people so hateful over someone liking a person of the same sex? Are people so miserable that they need to ruin the happiness of others...

He denied it, of course. Edit: found it!

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Though, it would have been awful for him to just suddenly out Jaeduck along with him. I don't get how straight people can be so clueless. 

 

On the other hand, there's this:

 

 

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(Also, shoutout to the two guys fanning themselves in the audience.)

 

Oh and this more recently:

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But yeah, I honestly don't know how anyone else could actually out them at this point, other than saying they saw them kissing or something. The other members of their groups already say things like this all the time:

 

 

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It's interesting how they're toeing the line anyway. I hope they stay happy. 

I watched like 2 minutes of clips and have already come to the conclusion that Jaeduk farts rainbows.

Mmm... this isn't directed towards anyone in particular, but why does the argument for Kai/Krystal always come down to, "I think they match well?" We only see part of an idol's true personality. How do we know how well or not well two people really match? There can be evidence for sexuality or attraction to someone, but to say "they'd make a good couple," well... that's a lot more difficult to speculate, especially when you don't know said people personally. It's something to be careful of.

Just wanted to let you guys know that Tony and Jaeduck are still out there being happily married. 

 

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Actually that whole account is full of receipts. Literally in every show they go on, the MCs comment (or laugh nervously) about them being like a married couple. One even asked, "Have you two thought about just courageously coming out?" which, yikes you can't just ask that on TV, but still.

I'm curious to know more about these two, since I've seen them posted about a few times. I'm gonna check out that account. 

If it happens on every show they go on, the nature of their relationship must be somewhat of an open secret, at least within the industry.

3 boyfriends? Assuming the two are Kyungsoo (obviously) & Taemin (more like BFFs), but who's the other one?

 

And you're right about the "give them a year" thing. What's funny about that is that the official statement from their "confirmed dating" and "confirmed break-up" is EXACTLY a year (March 31, 2016-2017).

Doesn't Kai get paired a lot with Sehun, also? We even had the wicked witch of the west come in here and make a "sort of but not really homo" post about them once.

One year is pretty standard for a dating contract. Well, I can't be 100% certain it was a dating contract, but based on the progression of events and SM's history (really, the whole entertainment industry does this), it is quite likely.

i think some gay idols use fanservice / skinship to get closer to other male idols.

 

 

Go get em, Mark !

 

I always said this and I will continue to say it- if I were a kpop idol, the number of butts touched under the guise of fanservice and shit would be astronomical. I'd become known as the serial butt grabber. Whenever I see fans saying that every physical interaction is played up for the fans, I shake my head and think, "You poor, naive fools."