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  1. SNSD's album sales has been declining for some years now, so it's nothing out of the ordinary. Mr Mr might also have had different versions or covers, I can't remember. 2015 was a much better year for them digitally than 2014 though.

     

    BTS seems to have steadily gained new fans, you can see their fans more or less everywhere. It's possible that 1 direction's hiatus and exo losing members meant fans moved on to them? For 17 we will have to see... they're under Pledis who had a lot of success early on with After School and Nu'est but it died out quickly.

    mrmr didn't had different cover,

    WITH or without covers snsd fandom will make them sell 90-100 k.Those are pointless to worry about .

    10 k lesser in hanteo is atleast expected when one of the popular member leave lol.

    2014 decline was expected after igab after all the popular member had dating scandal ,same as in 2015 after a member's ;leave.

     

    Currently for couple of years the sales will stay stagnant as it is .now after.Not much decline.

    Unless they have more severe scandal.............................................

  2. any one have weibo acc,if not you can make and click on this link it will search yoona in weibo , and than  click on the orange icon on right side of the screen,search rating is necessary to increase index ...,if you want to do

     

     

    http://s.weibo.com/weibo/%25E6%259E%2597%25E5%2585%2581%25E5%2584%25BF&toid=iIjbzf8Ps1fTZDLhs7OSIIJDp89Yizx&Refer=direct_sight_share

     

    This is for weibo star 2015 index ,yoona is now no 53,right out of top 50 wjich the least margin ,the dead line for this is 31st .

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  3. Deam!, at this rate only Taeyeon will be the best selling female act on hanteo but without grabing a spot in the top 10 neither breaking the 100k sales. Overall it seems it is/was a bad year for female acts on hanteo: (acording tho this chart) f(x) outsolding one version of lion heart but still not enough sales to break it into the top 10, taeyeon being above her own group and f(x) but lacking on numbers to enter in the top 10 and, the fact, that no girlgroup archieved 100k sales is kinda shocking (correct me if I'm wrong, SNSD last year make it into the top 10 with one version of Mr. Mr. and surpassed the 100k mark), I wonder what happend?.

    On the other hand, Dayum!, BTS!, (according to this chart) above of Super Junior and TVXQ and close to EXO, is such an accomplish coming from a non big 3 (or 2) company, wouldn't be surprised if next year is their breakout year if everything keep like this untill the end of this year.

    Anyway, Op, do you know if for the official annual chart Hanteo will use this chart of the thread or will combine the sales of the different versions of the albums (for example: Odd: a + b versions; Lion heart: Lion heart + You think version), because I see some users combining the sales of the different versions of an album to give the official numbers and I think Gaon combine the different versions too (for example (again) Lion heart and Odd).

    wtf fx has  8  versions ,snsd had just 2.

     

    sm just used same bar codes for fx albums thats all.

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    As I got one wp,please be fair and give these wp they are not just raining a parade by posting stuff with proper reasoning ,  they are straight up bashing repeatedly on an appreciation thread and many times for past 4 months ,

     

     

    http://onehallyu.com/topic/254462-big-bang-reaction-when-taeyeon-won-best-female-artist-mama-2015/?p=11201142

    http://onehallyu.com/topic/250085-visual-mountains-all-in-one-pic/?p=11035983

    onehallyu.com/topic/228496-taeyeon-got-cake-%EF%BF%BD/#entry10231691

     

    there is way more i can link those too

     

    I wouldn't mind my wp ,but please be fair and give wp each for those.

     

    You are free to say your opinion, but please bear in mind that no matter how much you dislike the fans or the group they like, there are certain comments/thoughts that only should be kept to ourselves.

     

     

    I have also  never said any thing in their appreciation thread before,actually that I remember.

    I only post about them when some sheep post false and really misleading stuff,since I though  its a forum for discussion and sharing information.

    I have also never straight up bashed any one  just for the sake of it like many of the users and the one i quoted above does ,

    yet they are not seen as troll or given wp.

     

     

     

     

    But I get a wp for implying  its like sheep mentality to insist on spreading   mediaplay about 80 million investment for a nugu company with 7 workers  and such ridiculous mediaplay stuff which have been already discussed .

     

     

    If I make a thread about exo slaying japan in appreciation thread and if user like doc appeared to correct me please give him wp too.

     

    Thanks.

  5. If people remember I have said nobody confirmed yoona was doing a supporting  role in the hyunbin movie,

     

    But according to reports as I suspected

     

     

    restmb_jhidxmake.php?idx=5&simg=20151116 Yoon Je-kyoon (from left), Hyun Bin and Yoona (OSEN)

    Girls’ Generation member Yoona is to take a lead role in the movie with the working title “Cooperation,†costarring actors Hyun Bin and Yu Hae-jin, according to a local news outlet.

    Yu will take the role of a Korean detective while Hyun-bin will play a North Korean counterpart.

    This will be Yoona’s first acting role since performing in a Korean-Chinese movie two years ago. In the upcoming movie, Yoona is to take the role of Yu’s sister-in-law.

    “Cooperation,†produced by veteran director Yoon Je-kyoon, features the story of an unofficial North and South Korean joint

    cr-korea herald

     

     

    Just posting if people still didn't saw this

    still kind of annoyed by k-actor fans looking for scapegoats already in case it don't do well while sideline others ,

    would have prefered a drama or something else instead .

     

    also they are kind of using yoona, because it has huge chinese company  investment and would be screened there and already secured major distributors over there ,they are planning for high selling price from chinese industry.

    So kind of worried if they will focus too much to cater to chinese taste  ,which would only drift the movie away form korean's preference.

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    I called it, it wouldn't debut that high in another thread the song is like a victim tribute song which is not popular among mainstream listeners,but the melody is pretty it might rise later especially tommorow. #impact of taeng.

     

    And cracking top 20 now is like cracking top 5 few months back ,its really hard now with lots of popular releases

    And not many knows taeng is featuring there ,due to lack of mediaplay .

     

     

  7. I think only GD can beat Taeyeon as a solo artist for album sale, last year, Taeyeon's Rise sold about 60k copies.This year, JH and Jonghwa can't beat Taeyeon on Gaon, Slay Yeon !!!!!!!!!!11

    Let GD get married (since he is a male) then release his album only then would it be fair to compare head to head with taeyeon who faced a dating scandal,To compare who actually sells more irrespective of gender.

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  8. There is not taiwanese special edition for I ,in taiwan they are selling the imported version so taiwan sales should count.

     

    And as I said in past taeyeon will sell 2/3 of snsd.so if snsd sells 150k taeyeon should reach near 100K ,but the difference now is snsd is underselling ,they can produce way more sales than that ,while taeyeon is not underselling as much as SNSD ,so she should reach atleast 100K ,unless sm fk up the shipments while producing albums for kh and effx.

     

    In case of exo ,sm really tries and produces shit tons of albums and ships them every where  to register as much sales as they  can,but not in this case .

     

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    Can that shinee fan stop quoting me with her bs already .I have been really trying to ignore that ridiculous being .

     

    What kind of ***  would try would try to impose here  how her oppas are doing well in taeyeon sales  thread.

    Even if any one  stan 97980809 idols  like many of the usual koreaboos ,it doesn't mean they  have to post shit about  about how oppars are doing here because some one else mentioned the simple fact bb and shinee members got entire year to themself to sell which inflated their sales a lot compared to tae.Whether your 89798 other  bias are flopping or more flopping its irrelevant to the topic.

     

     Don't have to stick head in the ass of other 080098 idols in a taeyeon only thread and only say  dumb supportive praises about others here.

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  9. there's no point in talking with you when you deny the reality of male vs female idol sales

     

    generalization at its purest form ^.

     

    There is  time /age/era/appeal/and lot of other factor that determines  sales for idols regardless of gender ,

    some cases might be rare but we are not talking about general stuff here so.

    do YOU know me? taemin is my least favourite member of SHINee. when he did his solo i didnt even like him back then so excuse me but i dont see why i should defend someone when i was actually scared he would win on music shows and year end awards back then because i did not want him to do better than taeyeon solo debut which i have expected way back then.

     

    well according to many people you are the rude person who created many different accounts to bash other female artists too

     

    so you have not met your fellow jessica stans who bash taeyeon and everyone who praises or is not nice to taeyeon..wow.

     

    lol according to jessica stan? who reported my account for being  dupe bcuz I  said unflattering words about her ?...But my acc is still here so .

     

    And about your shinee and other stuff lawl ok.

  10. you have obviously never met a jessica stan..or ppl who stan everyone in snsd just except taeyeon...please visit more places

    ?? ? ?

    Do you know me?

     

    You absolutely don't.

     

    Iam actually  laughing here reading your little pointless discussion in a digital thread.

     

    Also Iam not some one member stan ,I never even  visited taeyeon thread before here,I generally only follow snsd as a whole and now iam discussing about her sales because its her solo debut?

     

    And BTW  ,I actually once stanned one member more than other specifically in past  ,and it was jessica before 9:30 happened.

    So why don't we stick to discussion about digitals/physicals instead .

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    i stopped reading after "Male /female is irrelevant if you are popular"  :derp:

    ???whats the point then .... don't bother replying.

     -"OPPars will get more album sales because fangirls will buy more,  "....because D?Isn't that what you believe right  ?ok.

     

    this person has been saying delusional things about taeyeon for a long time now...always insisting taeyeon could have done better, or that others are flopping

    When did I say other were flopping??

    Reciepents please?

     

    You just  seem  bitter because I added taemin would have sold less,if he had made the debut in a time period like tae ,right after a korean single and fullalbum ,

     

    when you some how tried to claim how t*n didn't had an entire year to himself from all the allimportant k/cfandom.I would  have replied in a  way more derisive manner if a non sone tried to claim such bs and implied japanese releases actually  have much of an  impact on korean sales  so I just ignored this type of ?%#@ post

     

    from a japanese fan taeyeon read out at her concert on onstyle show? (he/she wrote in japanese and taeyeon read it in japanese) there are also many international fans who will buy both korean and japanese albums, so a high frequency of albums can limit purchasing power and bulks. just look at how snsd c fans order 16309+ bulk this time, and also the local store at my place counts towards hanteo chart, not to mention the various online kpop cd stores that count to hanteo.hanteo isnt only about k fans, and k fans will buy jap albums also.

     

    dont forget, SHINee view this year was their highest selling korean album (50000+ in 1st week iirc) ever since lucifer (2010) and married to the music repackage sold even more (70000+ in first week). jonghyun was first on hanteo for january, too, so your point about taemin dividing all the sales from them is totally invalid.

     

    Just adding :

    Even bigbang's back to back singles,;

    Big Bang - "M" - 86,100

    Big Bang - "A" - 54,200

    Big Bang - "D" - 35,800

     

     

     2MONTHS gap

    Big Bang - "E" - 46,800

     

    The sales of D was less compared to M by almost 3 times,

    And  E had some gap but still sold a bit more than D and   because it was the last of the made series  .But still almost half the amount less than M ,where fansites put most of their resources..

  12. your expectations are way too high. it's delusional to think taeyeon can sell 150k in a year. she is not a male, she's not a trending idol, she's 8 years into her career that's a lifetime for a female. 

     

    it does sucks how SM didn't support Taeyeon's solo debut as much as they did for their other artists and that the solo fans have been waiting for 8 years was done in 1.5 weeks but it still did amazingly well. hopefully after witnessing how much Taeyeon has slayed SM will pour more resources into her next solo, if she has one.

    Male /female is irrelevant if you are popular in some case.

     

    If snsd sells 300k ,taeyeon can sell atleast 200k,the entire ksone is her fanbase.As much as you wanna believe the other member individual fanbase don't produce sales nearly as much.

    SNSD'S album sales  number should have been near 180k by the year end  if they didn't release party single and LH separately,the album which itself is underselling ,because ,the product that sm puts out doesn't impress casual fans now but only a section of  hardcore fans  . 

    But Taeyeon's I did peaked the interest of  fans ,it could have  gotten  ksone to spend their resources on her which were refraining to do the same for LH, and since its first snsd solo and taeyeon's fist solo ,and thats not about it with better promo and  hype buildup and considering her popularity in korea she can also garner quite an additional sales from casual music lovers ,and combining hardcore tayeon's c/k fansite major bulk orders ,  she could potentially reach 150K ,considering they  didn't spend  their resources to fund 2 snsd releases already.

     

    But in reality as of now SM already fked up her sales by not stocking up in many stores and waiting for the already shipped ones to completely sellout.

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  13. lol why are you combining japanese and korean album in 2014?.... both are very different and aimed at different set of fandom.shinee may as well drop 5 albums in japan ,it wouldn't impact their korean album sales at all ,since different set of people buy their albums in that case.

     

    The shawol fandom's entire resources went to taemin solo in 2014,if he had released his solo after  a shinee kor single and an album back to back he wouldn't have sold nearlly as much,

     

    If taeyeon had an entire year  to herself she would have reached 150K on gaon album nums.

    Also Iam pissed how sm could have done so much more ,like arranging a sketchbook segment or let her promote on an actually somewhat relevant shows which public watch for once.

     

    ,meanwhile  many newfound ggs goes around doing their unhilarious stuff  or keeps  performing sticking their asses out on 798098 TV shows  and events which results in their song gaining huge momentum in the end and keep rising later .

     

    "I "had the potential to be something really really big ,but sm  had various other priorities in the line from fx to kyuhyun ,for the sake of their  other acts sm  undersupported  her and didn't allow her to reach its full potential either in album sales(by releasing SOON after LH/party/YT) or in digitals

     

     

    EDIT : We also see how LCJ rose on the charts ,with such huge longitivity ,and over took many songs , because he promoted it on shows like hiddensinger (which led to his rise on charts,thats it ) sketchbook,cuseok special and other shows.

    Meanwhile sm made taeyeon perform in a closed section with a big  majority of I fans for generating revenue ,and a tv show which is more of a plot  to make money for sm ,by selling rights later.

            

     

    wake up this isn't 2010

     

    Who said it was ?

  14. SHINee isnt exactly what id call whole year either..

     

    june 2014: lucky star single

    august 2014: taemin solo mini album

    September 2014: im your boy full album

    January 2015: jonghyun solo mini album

    march 2015: your number single

    May 2015: view full album

    august 2015: married to the music repackage full album

    september 2015: jonghyun solo mini album

    october 2015 sing your song single

     

    yes in 2015, 2 of the 6 releases are japanese singles, but there are also 2 minis and 2 full albums in korea. last year there were also taemin solo mini in korea and 1 single, 1 full album in japan. dont forget shinee tokyo dome, world tour and jonghyun solo for the agit. its not like shinee only did view this year so please

    lol why are you combining japanese and korean album in 2014?.... both are very different and aimed at different set of fandom.shinee may as well drop 5 albums in japan ,it wouldn't impact their korean album sales at all ,since different set of people buy their albums in that case.

     

    The shawol fandom's entire resources went to taemin solo in 2014,if he had released his solo after  a shinee kor single and an album back to back he wouldn't have sold nearly as much,

     

    If taeyeon had an entire year  to herself she would have reached 150K on gaon album nums.

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