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  1. Well then, just think of my second purchase as being yours until you do. Therefore I have an excuse for buying two and my wallet will forgive me a bit. Financial discretion is not one of my strongest points when it comes to albums.
  2. Hide and Seek? Better order both. *looks at wallet afterwards* Mmm whatcha sayyy~ No regrets though really.
  3. Just to expand on what Riri already said, Seventeen had a web show that started in early 2013 where they showed the boys' "training process" to become idols (in other words, they goofed around in their practice room for hours on camera in bad quality every now and then for a year). Unfortunately, there's mostly just clips here and there of the show left over and very little of it is subbed. You can read more about the show though if you go back to the beginning of this topic since it was still ongoing when the topic was created. It's worth it to read a bit about the show IMO because it helps new fans see just how far the boys have come to get to this point. I forgot about that one somehow...
  4. For some reason Seungyeol's delayed reaction is amusing to me as opposed to Myungsoo's immediate one. It also reminds me of this classic:
  5. Minghao's hair is driving me crazy. I really want to hear him rap for some reason. Nah, he's got the jams nonstop. Jam Jam. Edit: Oh, I topped. Um. Uuuuum. Let's all collectively facepalm over how bad the Seventeen TV ads were, shall we?
  6. Hi everyone, I dunno if any of you remember me but holy crap I am both so ready and both so not ready for this comeback... I want to hear a lot more Minghao and Jun though, and JOSHUA. Spread the love, Pledis.
  7. It was Soohyun, actually. He and Jokwon were trainee buddies and sent a series of extremely not subtle texts to one another about how much they loved each other and wanted to sleep and take showers together and the like, and when called out on it their response was basically "lol we were just bros being bros wtf." Anyway here they are:
  8. Those texts between him and Soohyun from U-kiss were pretty revealing, despite what they both say. I mean who texts like that? Not to mention Soohyun has always pinged me too anyway.
  9. Mark is a manchild and a cuddlebug and I think that confuses some people but really, he hasn't shown any interest in anyone other than guys. He could be bi but in my opinion he's almost as obvious as Jinyoung. Also, what's up with GOT7 these days? It seems like the Markjin moments went away and got replaced by Jinson and Markjae? I blame Coco.
  10. This is old but I searched and didn't see it discussed here. Did anyone watch the Cross Gene episode for ASC? I know some people suspect Takuya (I'm more leaning ally, but whatever) but really this entire group pings me to high heaven. It's too bad that there doesn't seem to be very much material of them compared to other groups despite how long the've been around. Anyway, there was one part of the episode that pissed me off a little. They had a segment where they had each member say something secret about one of the other members before the show and then the members had to pick who had said which messages as well as who they were about. At around 21:25 in the video, the secret message is "he is very good at girl group dances!" The message was about Takuya but it took a while for them to guess that, I guess they're all pretty good at those, but anyway, Takuya proceeded to do a dance as Jimin cracked up in the back. She then said that she had seen him in a commercial which "had not been his image" and acted really awkward and judgmental about it (she was talking about The Lover, I assume). Takuya then outright says he doesn't like guys and that people asume he is gay because of the drama, and then Kevin very uncomfortably tells everyone to move on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWGuMf4tSFU (Edit: The part where Takuya says he doesn't like guys was actually edited out of the official clip of that part of the show, which was why I posted the whole episode since they didn't edit it out there). Kevin's subtlety issues aside, what was the deal with Jimin there? Do many people in Korea really think someone is gay just because they play a gay character in a drama? I really hope that doesn't come to define Takuya's career. Anyway, it seems to me that Shin is better at girl group dances (dat ass at :30): I'm starting to like this Takushin pairing. These are painfully scripted but still cute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvsUg4lCdrQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5STrDfDfyQ0 Also I know it won't embed but have some Shin causing Shin-Young and Shindong to fangirl:
  11. Chansol was the main ship for those two back in the original Seventeen TV days until Joshua showed up, then Jisol was popular for a while but it went back to Chansol when Joshua decided his true husband was Jeonghan. Anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0MjZsvU8TM What are these two even doing? For the next video, watch up to or skip to 1:33 to hear DK acknowledge the "Chansol couple" after they get paired together for a mission. They must have known the ship name from the Seventeen TV comments, haha: Also this is unrelated but here's when S.Coups, Doyoon and Dongjin were all introduced to Seventeen in season 2. Note the girl who hits on DK at :38. She is my hero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRvSPN0iIBU Also, ENTER MINGHAO (with blonde hair): And lastly here's a vid with a bit of old fashioned Meanie (I know it won't embed here because of the video post limit but whatever: So yeah.
  12. I think the real question whenever BtoB comes up is which one is straight? Anyway... I was convinced too that that's not Minhyuk's hand but then I took a closer look at the video. Watch his hands closely at about 40 seconds in, you can see his fingers: He's definitely doing something with his naughty bits but I don't think we can see it. It seems like he's batting it back and forth between his hands? It really does look like a dick in the gif though.
  13. Some people have told me that the black and white pic isn't confirmed as predebut Hansol so I dug up some other confirmed predebut pics and...: it's very clearly Hansol Dat power of denial. I mean come on, his nose, eyes and overall facial structure are exactly the same. In other news, this boy is really cute, wtf
  14. Does anyone know why Topp Dogg's Hansol removed the Scissorhands video? I mean someone else has since repuloaded it but was he getting hate or something? In case you missed it:
  15. Don't get me wrong, I'm Markjin trash too but the gifs of Jr. "kissing" Mark look more like Jr. was just whispering something in Mark's ear to me. He whispered something and then Mark kind of cringed for whatever reason, I don't know. I also think that the most identifiable voice in the penis size video is the third ("compare, compare man compare!"!). It sounds like Jr. to me, and the second kind of sounds like Mark. The first and 4th kind of don't even sound like them to me. Anyway, have some Markjin stuff that convinced me of them: Nice save there, Jr. Whoa whoa whoa indeed, Mark. Anyway: pay attention to Mark's totally heterosexual face here: These two.
  16. I listened to it a few more times and then it started to sound like "His small penis." "No, it's not small, this thing is religious," which of course makes no sense and isn't what was said, buuuut I do think it was a 3 syllable word now. If not that then he probably said "really just" and then did something off cam . I put on my headphones and fiddled with them a bit for the next part but I still don't know what he said. I agree it doesn't sound quite like "prepare" but I really don't hear "who cares." Now it kind of sounds like "Repair, repairman, repair," which doesn't make sense either. (EDIT: Now I can hear the "compare" you mentioned...oh my) Also, the voice sounds like Jr....? I'm not making this up, compare the voices: then Culprit discovered!? I don't know why he'd be speaking English though. There's also the possibility that they're just some random dudes and not Got7 at all. Jackson seems to have a lot of friends. Anyway, I think I've analyzed this a bit too much and need to go to bed now.
  17. I was just about to mention the discussion of penises going on in the background of that video, but it looks like I was beaten to it. Can anyone make out the whole thing? It sounds like: "...have small penis." *Someone who kinda sound like Mark says something but is covered up by Jackson's completely heterosexual "Henry's in Koreaaaaaa "* It kind of sounds like "No it's not small, this thing is ???" (Big, maybe?) "Prepare, prepare man. Prepare!" "Hey, my size!" ....Buuut anyway, I'm actually pansexual myself. It's more like we don't really take gender into account when we are attracted to people. One of the few people I've really fallen head over heels for was a male to female transgender person (I couldn't have cared less). I guess I can see that with Jackson. He does seem to act very differently around different people though, and seems comfortable enough with himself to not care if people judge his mannerisms. For example he kind of dotes over Bambam in an almost motherly way sometimes but I've never felt anything sexual from it (I think he knows Bambam is his protege ). Anyway, I'll need to look more into this Henry guy. Even if I find anything I'm not the kind of person to spread things everywhere, this is all just speculation for fun to me. Not to mention the part where DK bit his EARS and then Vernon switched cheeks while feeling up DK's chest. Subtle, guys. The point I was trying to make about Jr. that I don't think I expressed very well is that he seems to monitor his behavior in an excessive way. I know he's an idol and all but the things he monitors seem to mostly involve avoiding "feminine" behavior. I've known closeted gay guys who are so nervous about covering up or hiding any stereotypical gay mannerisms that they actually overdo it and make it obvious by doing so, and Jr. seems that way to me. Anyway, here's a link to the Papa Tuan tweet about Mark: https://twitter.com/linbea945/status/451148919364268032 The part I found strange was that he seems more disturbed that someone would say that as an insult rather than the accusation itself. I don't think he's a homophobic person and his response seems to be like "why would you even say this?" rather than anger or denial, which hints to me a bit that he might know or suspect something about Mark's sexual orientation but doesn't think anyone should even care about it (as a good parent should think). I don't speak Chinese and maybe someone can correct me but I used a translater when I saw him replying to someone in the responses and he seems to be saying something along the lines of "I'm not mad but it bothers me that people can just say things like that behind anonymity and have no repercussions for it." He just seems disappointed and sad. Some people think Mark's sister is gay though and that might fit into this too. I don't really know anything about that though. I dunno though, I might be looking into it too much.
  18. My opinions have changed a bit on GOT7 over time. A lot of people say they are confused by Mark, and I think I know the reason why; Mark is a manchild. I don't mean that in a negative way, I think Mark is great, but it's pretty hard not to acknowledge his childishness. He's very quiet when things don't interest him but then suddenly turns into a bouncy hyena obsessed with hugging people whenever he gets really excited. He loves to troll people and be cute and doesn't mind when people initiate skinship with him. He may very well be bisexual, but I still haven't really seen him exhibit any real interest while around women. For example, when Youngjae was fanboyinging over Suzy, Mark seemed bored and uninterested, even when she almost chose him as her "date" on IGOT7. I don't really buy the Markson pairing either because Mark never really seems excited around Jackson, at least not anywhere near the extent to which he is when around Jr. Mark's sister has shown that she's very accepting of LGBT people on her twitter and Papa Tuan seemed strangely offended and sad when a random troll tweeted him about Mark being gay, so maybe they know something we don't. Youngjae has been pinging me a bit lately too despite being one of the ones I used to think is straight. He's been a lot more touchy-feely (that Mark butt squeeze) lately but it could just be because he's more comfortable being an idol now; he's a lot less awkward then when they debuted. His massive crush on Suzy seemed real enough though so he could swing both ways, but I'm not entirely sure. I've got my eye on you, Youngjae. Some people mention Bambam and I can kinda see why. The way he speaks, dresses and moves make him seem more stereotypically gay from a western perspective, but to be honest that's all I think it is. He and Jackson love attention and Bambam in particular likes to tease fangirls. I mean let's be honest, sometimes he acts like a total fu**boy. I think there are some attributes that are identifiable among straight guys just like there are among gay guys, and I think Bambam is one of the few members who doesn't feel shy or nervous about exhibiting them. His mom made comments once about how he needs to be more careful representing Thailand, and you can see the other members (especially Jr.) tense up a bit whenever he gets an opportunity to speak to women. So tl;dr, I think Bambam is straight. I think Jackson is an ally. He's clearly a very sweet and sensitive person with a lot of empathy and of course likes to push the fanservice stuff, but I've never really been pinged by him. The way he interacted with Youngji on Roommate made me almost certain that he's straight, but who knows. I think he's just very comfortable with himself and accepting of others. JB and Yugyeom are the hard ones for me; JB acts childish like Mark sometimes and seems to get nervous when around guys but he also seems that way with girls so I really don't know. It seems like his image and actual personality may be pretty different. Yugyeom seemed to be all over Mark during Real GOT7, at least during season 2, but again, he confuses me. He seems to have had a crush on Yerin from 15&, but he also tends to be the one who points out when there's too much fanservice going on or outright calls the others gay (as people here have shown) in a "the lady doth protest too much" kind of way...Hmm... I'm convinced Jr. is gay. He seems like a very reserved person, too much so. If you watch him carefully you'll notice that he does his best to cover his mouth whenever he laughs (usually making an awkward croaking noise as a result) but when he doesn't manage to react in time he'll either have a high pitched laugh kind of similar to Bambam's or will try to shift it to sound deep midway through. He could just be concerned about his laugh when it comes to his image but there's also the matter of his sleeping arrangements. He's the only member to get his own room and even sleeps separately when overseas (in America he shared rooms with the manager). He also seems the most aware and guarded about his actions but sometimes lets his guard down, usually around Mark. If you watch a lot of MarkJin moments you'll notice that Jr. seems very blushy and submissive, something I don't see with any of the other memebrs during skinship or fanservice moments. He also seems more nervous than the other members about showing some skin...he's always fully clothed whenever anything water related is happening and makes sure to keep his fanservice resricted to sexy stares or aegyo. There could be other explanations for all of these of course, but there's just something about him. Some of the members (namely Jackson and Bambam) tend to strut around and show off, and the ones that don't seem comfortable enough on camera, but Jr. always seems to be adjusting himself or trying to walk in a more "manly" way, etc. I don't know. (and now for something completely different!) I've been following Seventeen since early 2013, and honestly the ones that ping me the most are Mingyu, Joshua, DK, and sometimes Vernon. Mingyu is actually a total goofball and was constantly ambushing and hugging other members during the initial 17TV days; he seemed very very comfortable with his environment. He seemed to really like Wonwoo but would also goof around with Seunkgwan or S.Coups and seem a bit blushy in the same way I spoke about Jr. earlier. Joshua seems shy but also acts like a total queen sometimes, and his mannerisms are very stereotypically "gay" from a western standpoint, which holds more water in this situation because he's from America and has only been in Korea for 2 years. He just gives me a strong "twink" vibe. DK seems to be more careful nowadays, but in the past he was the most likely to troll other members, especially in over-the-top fanservice. He would purposefully kiss Vernon during paper kiss games (and even bite Vernon's lip) or even bite Vernon's ears: (skip to 20 seconds in and watch on the right) Vernon outright shouted at him once to "read the contract." Anyway, Vernon has raised some flags before too, not only with his interactions with DK but also with Dino and occassionally Hoshi. I think he's bi, but that's just me. Anyway...lastly I'm not 100% sold on Seungkwan. I can see how he pings people a lot and how he could be considered a diva, but at the same time he's never really seemed to show any intererest in anyone. When people fit the "gay diva" stereotype like Jokwon or Key, you can see their thinly veiled attraction to other guys fairly often, but I've never seen it with Seungkwan. He's probably the member with the least amount of fanservice. That might be saying something itself, but I don't know. I've been watching them for a long time and think I know them pretty well. Anyway, sorry for the rant.
  19. https://vine.co/v/eggxAZWJm6K I'll just leave this here I guess.
  20. I feel like "y'all better stan Jun" is secretly a meme or something because everyone already stans Jun but thinks nobody else does.
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