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smtownglobal blocked some f(x) fans who were calling them out lol

Kinda surprised that k-netizens noticed and even cared about f(x)'s treatment. These comments + @smtownglobal's blocking spree makes me hope that SM is realizing their behavior has been shit. ETA SCREAMS STEP SCREAMS LUNA'S SIS AND PARENTS SCREAMS

27. is magic castle. here's a fancam of the performance ot but i just realized that f(x) had 10 group-only performances and 5 f(exo) performances

no comment on macklemore's stank song BUT OMG THE GIRLS LOOKED SO HAPPY AND EXCITED!!!

^that would be cool my christmas wish is for another season of seventeentv with the (two) new members also throwback ... tuesday? bc i'm bored hansol, jisoo, and seokmin singing ordinary people jackson 7 practice

i wish pledis had posted the whole show on youtube. it would get more views than the first 17 show and convert way more people. SIGH i was really really impressed with hansol this time around. i wrote him off in the very beginning as a pretty face but he's so much more talented than i first thought. i won't roll my eyes at his fangirls (much) anymore. jihoon was the definite star of the show with robot remains, sunday morning, airplanes, butterfly graveyards, and his solo. but i can't hate because he was so good. seokmin, wonwoo, and soonyoung shined more too. i hope the like17 concert doesn't put mingming on the backburner again tho. the kid is an amazing dancer and his fierce, aggressive style would go great with hansol's smoother, liquid feel. TAEYEOB!!! my friends and i were just talking about how good he was in jackson 7's performance and then he shows up again. i wish pledis had picked him. he looks like yoong lmfao

^hey alex! :D 17 performing HOT Warrior's Descendent cr: @BABYSOON17

peeping in to say i think u could list several members who are vulnerable, but isn't the point of a group is to create something greater than its parts? even in the greatest pop groups, you can pick out members who were less than the total package (at least at the beginning), but their presence still helped to create something great. the current 15 members (and samuel) created an atmosphere that we all came to love. i hope pledis remembers that! here's where the performances will be held and in case anyone has missed these, @leese0kmin has uploaded two audio recordings from seventeen show 3 T-2hrs to the Lotte World Performances!

Does this mean 17tv season 5 isn't happening? How will fans get to know the new members? Or is it going to start in 2014 (which is only 5weeks away OTL... where does the year go?) Anyway, here are the 13 finalists who will be performing at Lotte World on the 30th 여환웅 (Yeo Hwan Oong) 김민성 (Kim Min Seong) 임병옥 (Im Byong Ok) ì „ì¢…ì˜ (Jeon Jong Yoong) ê¹€ìƒí˜„ (Kim Sang Hyun) 최민수 (Choi Min Soo) 김진호 (Kim Jin Ho) 노대현 (No Daehyun) ìœ ë‹¤ì • (Yoo Da Jeong) 김찬미 (Kim Chan Mi) ìœ¤ì†Œì˜ (Yoon Soyoung) ì´ë³´ë¦¼ (Yi Bo Rim) cr FB The last four names seem like girl names. Presumably they're auditioning for spots in the girl group who performed at 17 show 2.

have you guys seen this? seungcheol is too funny

SO GOOD. even the members who aren't as strong in dance stepped up and killed it. 17 are well on their way to becoming the #1 idol dance group in korea does anyone know who choreographed the performances?

tvseventeen did but the audio is kinda bad

seventeen dancing(?) to kahi's new song lol these fools soonyoung singing "i do"

I rewatched the audition and it's not as bad on second viewing. I just wish that Pledis had been warmer to them. I understand that the stakes are high and they should feel pressure, but 17 looked scared. If I wanted to watch trainees on the verge of tears, I'd watch that yg show. I like 17 because I can see their passion and their happiness at the same time. Anyway, Mingyu and Junghan's duo(?) was cool. Mingyu's voice is much nicer than I expected and Junghan has really improved. Mingyu's patting Junghan on the shoulder to calm his nerves (1:12) was heartwarming.

Uh... this was brutal On a lighter note: Chansol closeup video with Lee Chan's rap and vocal practice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b6ESe9l6dE

ia with you abt seokmin. i need his cover of attraction! boo really singing some girl group songs would be great. he's kinda half sung some songs (miss a's goodbye baby with jisoo and i dont care with seungcheol) but he's never done a proper cover. anyway im more excited to see 17 continue to grow. also, has anyone seen any fancams of the lotte world auditions? i saw a blurry pic of one guy, but that's it. did no one take video of the boys auditions?

I love that Pledis keeps steadily upgrading 17's shows. Ilchi Art Hall is where Sistar, 2AM, and some other kpop acts have had showcases. By the time 17 debut, they'll be pros :'] Here's the stage About the solo stage competition: personally I really like the idea because in a group like 17, it's hard for individual members to get the spotlight.

upvoted bc i feel the same way. attraction's my jam and i NEED to hear seokmin's version asap. tbh i prefer his voice to bumkey's edited to add: 2m45s and 4m00s 12m27s soonyoung and jihoon are so good :']

[17’s Diary - Seokmin] 2013/09/23 ‘SEVENTEEN TIME’ Today is a Monday which starts the week. We, who even work hard on Monday~~ but today was a special Monday! We decided to meet up and discuss things we the other members. While listening to each other, we could fix and misunderstandings. We all had scars from misunderstandings we had with each other but while talking, we fixed them. While boys who each have their own thought came together and lived together, many different events occurred. Through times like these, I think we get rid of our misunderstandings and tangled relationships. From now on, we should talk more and do more thing together… Love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRANSLATED BY: Admin TineeyC ^^ @7TEEN WORLD

Thanks for all the pics! I wonder if Vic is starting a dark lipstick phase in her stylevolution? There's an hunantv internet poll out, vote for Vic here!

the great @SEVENTEENSG has translations up for the first 14 minutes of the video [TRANS/CUTS] STAR!调查团 video: SeungCheol: Seventeen with the average age of 17, is the group with the largest number of members as of today. We're currently training to become excellent National idols to showcase different sides of us! Lines(Groups) in Seventeen: 1) 95line - SeungCheol Doyoon JungHan Jisoo 2) Maknae Line - DongJin Lee chan SeungGwan Hansol 3) Global Line - Joshua Hansol Junhui Mingming Jihoon: As we have alot of members, the staffs will call us by our Lines instead. Q: Has the Korean members ever visited China yet? Wonwoo: As of now none of the members except the Chinese members have went to China before. Q: What's your impression of China? Wonwoo: Junhui & MingMing frequently shares delicious food with us and so China is a country with really very kind people Seokmin: I want to go to Junhui and Mingming hometowns respectively to play and meet both their parents SeungGwan: Because of Junhui and Mingming, we get to share what their parents mail to them. I thought popcorm was only popular in Korea but it turns out that it's also very popular in China Mingyu: And also if we ever ate with Junhui and Mingming at the hotel, they'll normally look for spicy foods. So i think that most China people enjoy spicy foods. Q: What are the No.1 pros and cons of being the largest group Doyoon: The No.1 positive thing is that we can showcase Seventeen's 17 different charms. The No.1 negative would be....... everyone knows right? The costs of our food! Q: Any times where "Can never agree on something" & "However our views are the same" Soonyoung: Because we frequently have have to practice till really late at night, so our hearts are always the same; the thoughts of going home early. and also since we have a larger number of members, the genres of music that we like are different, it is quite impossible to like the same kinds together. But the good thing is that if the members recommend songs to each other we'll get a larger variety of music and it feels good. Q: Things that "Motivates you" and "Worries you" Hansol: Like what Soonyoung hyung said, we have lots of instances where we have to practice till late at night. Even after eating dinner, we can get hungry after practise. SeungCheol hyung will tell us that we should have supper and so that's our motivation Q: Most respected and close seniors? (Respected) Jihoon: If we have to choose one of the seniors it's actually a little hard because all of them really take care of us alot. After School sunbae-nim, Dambi Sunbae-bim, Kahi sunbae-nim, NUEST sunbae-nim and Hello Venus sunbae-nim have all came to our practice room and occasionally bring us delicious food and say lots of motivational words and treats us all really well and are all our most respected seniors (Closest) Jihoon: If we have to say the closest seniors it would be NUEST sunbae-nims. In terms of age, they are the closest with us. We also lived together during their trainee days and hyung-sunbaenims are really approachable and gives us energy. Soonyoung: Show time NUEST time! (Part 1) Seventeen's Certification! Most Handsome Member? : Mingyu (Soonyoung: Our visuals are Mingyu and Doyoon) Most Manly Member? : SeungCheol (Wonwoo: His manliness starts from his arms) Best Personality? : JungHan Most Shy Member? : Hansol The member with the most Stage experience? : SeungCheol (Seokmin: What stages experiences do you have? SeungCheol: My first stage was in After School sunbae-nims' as a backup dancer. Soonyoung: Additionally, Jihoon also participated in NU'EST sunbae-nims stage. Jihoon: Yes and thinking about it makes me really thankful Soonyoung: And also me, Mingyu, Wonwoo, Jihoon and Hansol also appeared in Hello Venus' mv) (Part 2) Seventeen's Certification! Q: Member with the Best Fashion Sense: - (Hansol: Because we have alot of member so all our fashion sense are different so it is hard to decide. For example, Doyoon and Mingyu hyungs has a really cool and smart style. SeungCheol, Jihoon hyungs and me likes a more hiphop street style clothes Doyoon: And because of the different styles in different people it is hard to decide.) Q: Most Aegyo? : Soonyoung (Soonyoung: for me, i have decided on a way of saying aegyo from now till debut) Q: Member who cracks the most jokes: SeokMin (Seokmin: For me, i really enjoy cracking jokes.. Me and soonyoung always joke around. At night when we sleep, as you know Soonyoung has lots of aegyo right? When we lie together in bed he's really too cute and so i always pinch his cheeks and say "Aigoooo Soonyoung is so cute....") Q: The most difference in Outer Appearance and Personality: Mingyu (Soonyoung: Everytime i look at Mingyu, i will gain strength, he's really cheerful and that gives me strength. Doyoon: For me, when i saw him for the first time, i didn't dare talk to him because he looked really cold and it was a little intimidating. Mingyu: But i don't look really cold.. but anyway! Doesn't this mean that i have 2 types of charms?) (Part 3) Seventeen's Certification! Q: Member who enjoys eating the most? - Mingyu (SeungCheol: This is really well-known! Once when we all went to have korean barbecue, the meat was all eaten up. All the members have rice in front of them but 4 rice bowls were in front of Mingyu. After eating the rice, Mingyu ate the rest of the meat too! Soonyoung: I think your stomach can fit a whole universe /awkward silence/ yo~ please edit this~) Q: Most Personal Habits - Hansol (SeungGwan: Rather than habits, Hansol tend to be a little slow, sometimes when we check with Hansol about something that we know and understand, sometimes he inteprets it in another way. For example when we have our vocal lessons, when i get tired of practicing, i'll go to Hansol and tell him "Lets run away together" but Hansol will tell me "What are you saying? We should be dancing together;;;;" This kinds of moments makes us really panicky Mingyu: During this kind of moments, when me, Seunggwan and Hansol practice singing together, when i tell SeungGwan "Hyung you wanna sing <International Love> together? Hansol will ask me instead, "Hyung have you connected to the internet already?" SeungCheol: Ah~This is really 100% truth, there is no exaggeration Mingyu: Thanks to scatterbrained Hansol for bringing lots of laughter to the practice room!) (Part 4) Seventeen's Certification! Q: Member who practices the hardest?: Jihoon & Soonyoung (Chan: When i'm too tired i would take little breaks but when i see SeungCheol, Jihoon and Soonyoung hyungs, i will gain the energy to continue practicing) Q: Member with the most Nicknames?: - SeungGwan (SeungGwan: for example, during LIKE 17, 1. This is the Moment' becomes 'The moment is Boo SeungGwan', 2. BOOdaejigae (a type of tofu stew budaejigae) 3. BOOchujang (korean spicy red pepper paste, Gochujang) 4. Boojjangmyeon (Blackbean sauce noodles, Jjajangmyeon) ) Q: How about member's nicknames? SeungGwan: This moment is BooSeungGwan Jihoon: Dubu (tofu) Hansol: The Hansol Condition Soonyoung: 10.10 o'clock Dongjin: Black bean Chan: BanChan (Side dishes) MingMing: Maeng Maeng Doyoon: Dodo Seokmin: SeokSoonTalk (Kakao talk parody) SeungCheol: Seventeen's Father Junhui: Jerry JungHan: Line Maknae (Maknae of the oldest line) Wonwoo: Won plus Won (One plus One) Mingyu: Top air (it's a korean word but Wonwoo said it too muffled so i couldn't hear it) Jisoo: Migookhyung (American older brother) EDIT: @SEVENTEENSG: [iNFO] Soonyoung was the one who created the Like~17! handsign! the individual introductions are on @SEVENTEENSG's twitter and the 2nd half of the will be translated tomorrow!

by soon pd meant 5 days c: @SEVENTEENSG: [TRANS] @pledis_17 01/10/13 17TV Season4 START!! But first, we will greet with Guerrilla broadcast! When? 27th(Fri)!! © @SEVENTEENSG: [TRANS] @pledis_17 What time? PM8(kst)!! So, see you^_^ (No way.. you didn't forget the ustream address right?)

@pledis_17 is alive!! [TRANS] https://twitter.com/pledis_17 no instant photos so eventually settles for a selca.. Same age maknae & real maknae. Photo promise has been carried out! — 세ë¸í‹´ì‹±ê°€í´ (@SEVENTEENSG) https://twitter.com/SEVENTEENSG/statuses/381788162567045120 junghan (951004) is older than jisoo (951230) so i wouldn't take this tweet as proof that samuel is gone. [TRANS] [17's Diary - Chan] 2013/09/19 'I'm Iksan's Child!!' Today's Chuseok(Korean Thanksgiving Day)!!ã…Žã…Ž It's been a long time since i breathed in Iksan's air and it feels good to clear my head!!ã…Žã…ŽReal~ly like it! Went to see the sea with my parents and younger brother near Saemangeum!! (a tidal flat in Korea) Seeing the open sea in front of your eyes with your parents and younger brother was really cooling.... Going back to Seoul again...?Our family.... Indeed, i enjoyed it a lot too!!!! Ah it was fun~~^^♥ Everyone come here once too next time ã…Žã…Žã…Ž cr: @SEVENTEENSG AND LASTLY~~ @jihye_501: @pledis_17 pdnim.... season 4 when? ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… ã… @pledis_17: @jihye_501 soon . . . (whispers) cr: googletranslate woohoo!!

Does anyone have real sources on the one year America stay? It sounds a little made up. Also Dongjin's real maknae comment was in response to Junghan saying he was the fake maknae. You can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwKn9TwwOBo?t=15m5s Dongjin was already one of 17's maknaes, so he's not replacing Samuel. Samuel wasn't on the ticket because he wasn't going to be in the show. If you believe Pledis, none of the boys are confirmed, but that doesn't mean Pledis is going to randomly remove one of them and then never speak of them again.

i don't know how to embed videos so i'll just link haha i just realized entire show PART ONE PART TWO PART THREE PART FOUR cr: Elya Kim --