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lmao are u actually trying to command me to stop replying when u won't? i'm getting notifications from u that keep bringing me back to this conversation. there are CLEAR differences between the way this thread reacted to kris being called out and the way it reacts to female idols being attacked. u can scream abt that not being the case all u want. the pages and pages of outrage speak for themselves. ur increasingly screechy posts speak for themselves. ur attempt to infantilize me for daring to disagree with u and for pointing out ur hypocrisy speaks for itself. obviously i hit a nerve and a pretty sensitive one at that.
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u keep saying ur done and yet... but i'll take ur bait again. is misogyny not a serious issue? is the way negative ways netizens (korean and international) respond to female idols (especially their looks) not motivated by misogyny? is that not an issue on the level of ethnic discrimination? and lol at ur still being mad that i'm defending my beliefs.
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lol ppl r welcome to message me but if y'all respond to me in this thread then i'm going to respond back c: i'm also found at @puretoria for ur convenience c:
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lmao ur so salty that i'm calling out the hypocrisy on the thread. w/e y'all can be mad but ur not even fighting me on the points anymore. u do let shady behavior towards girls slide and u do FOR SOME REASON perk up and decide to use ur energy to argue in defense of a guy whether u acknowledge that or not.
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u said, but i don't believe it. and i've laid out why i don't believe it clearly several times now. and no where in that comment abt vic did they say vic was better than chinese people. they said vic was better than two guys. and u had a problem with that. i don't think u've even read the comment this whole argument has been over. here it is: "3. [+280, -8] Victoria's definitely on a different level from Hangeng and Kris. She always takes responsibility for her members no matter how much time passes and never ignores their fans.." tell me how that's pettier than calling naeun ugly when she smiles. but my bad, you didn't say it. popsugar said it in defense of ur point and u didn't correct her so i assumed u agreed.
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yup, i'm a troll bc i'm saying things u don't like. we've gone idek how many pages arguing bc a group of ppl on this thread couldn't handle a comment that put down a guy. if y'all really hate comparisons so much then why weren't there similar explosions over the many other times girls were put down in favor of f(x)? y'all missed those posts? all of them?
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???? i'm obviously talking abt the responses to those comments from ppl in this thread. "Yes, people tend to jump to boygroups defenses more, but where in THIS thread has that happened? Ever?" it just happened in this thread! ppl jumped to say it was unfair for netizens to criticize kris while praising vic. i have NEVER seen anyone do that for a female idol in. this. thread.
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u wanted to end the conversation like 2 pages ago and when i agreed, u kept responding. STOP if u don't want this to continue. u said pages ago that praises that included negative comparisons are insincere, and yet they're ok when they're putting down people based on beauty? but also ur irked by them but u never speak up. but also u don't see them. vic being favorably contrasted against hangeng and kris on the basis of leadership is terrible but naeun being called ugly when she smiles isn't. ok. honestly the way the kpop fandom jumps to boygroups defense while leaving girls out in the rain is so fucking ridiculous. yah i'm probably the only person in the thread to have a problem with it, but tbh i'm in better company.
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um... there's barely a page that goes by without comments abt non-f(x) members. in fact just yesterday ppl on this thread were laughing at the body parts that other idols were being praised for. and if y'all have a problem with impure compliments in general, then why is it only coming up now when a boy idol is involved? it screams hypocrisy.
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oh so this is continuing? ok then explain why ive never seen ppl mad on the thread when other female idols r insulted and f(x) members praised? receipts: http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/42-official-fx-â™”-ì—프엑스-â™”-thread-â¤-s-u-m-m-e-r-c-o-m-e-b-a-c-k-â¤/page-3001#entry3608003
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what i've been saying since my first comment on this is that vic could've been dragged into this in a way that negatively impacts her, but luckily she hasn't and in fact she's getting praised. ur problem is that the praise is somehow tainted bc kris is getting impacted negatively. but anyway, it's done
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bc only sexual motivation could explain it's creepy persistence
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it doesnt matter if u have a problem with it, vic is being dragged in anyway. but the fact that vic still being praised is a good thing bc she could be getting shitted on herself.
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the op of that post has a creepy obsession with f(x). is that easier to understand?
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nothing new tbh. blank can only orgasm if they mention f(x) in a post.
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-yen isn't a fanbase twitter tho so?? -ur op was abt kris being shaded tho -there was nothing to compare before kris dumped his group tho. the whole point is that vic's continued responsibility to her members puts her on another level -vic is in sm, she's chinese, she's a leader. u may think they r stupid reasons, but those r the reasons.
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no i'm pointing out that there's an underlying issue to this hand-wringing mess abt vic getting compliments. kris getting shitted on was obviously a problem for op bc otherwise why arent they mad abt almost every single f(x) article ever? aaaand once again, vic obviously has a connection to this issue, pretending otherwise is just stupid.
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soooo the problem is that kris got dragged and vic looks good. u posted my tweet from a personal conversation abt perceptions of vic's leadership just to complain abt kris getting insulted, so yeah i'm going to be skeptical abt ur motivations. i mean, f(x) gets contrasted against other female idols all the time, but i didnt see anyone having a problem with that. vic gets contrasted against kris and now there's an issue? sorry but i dont buy this accepting only 100% pure compliments issue.
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the article was abt f(x), not abt kris. check the link. also do u have a problem with comments like "vic is the most beautiful chinese idol"? bc that's technically shitting on zly, fei, jia, those girls from skarf, and idek who else. do u have a problem with comments like "f(x) is the best" bc that's technically shitting on all other groups? i think it's sketchy to have a problem with vic being complimented in this instance bc it involves kris's situation and not have a problem with other comparative statements.
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wait how is it sinister? vic is being praised. she's being compared favorably against others. she's coming out smelling like roses in a situation that could've potentially been bad for her. it's awkward, but i don't see anything sinister in it. what's weird to me is that u don't seem to think the praise is real. vic really is on another level re:responsibility and care to her members than hangeng and kris. "praise her only" ok so i think we've come to the crux of the issue. imo the praise is entirely genuine and true. u think she's only a tool & they wouldn't have praised her unless they wanted to strike at kris and hangeng. why arent kris and hangeng just tools to praise vic?
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vic is in this just by being a chinese sm idol whether u think she should be or not. the fact that she's being celebrated is a GREAT thing. tbh idk u but being a vic stan and being upset that she's being praised seems... strange to me. yeah she's being compared to kris, but her circumstances naturally lead to that. maybe i'm being dense so why dont u lay out exactly why being spoken abt favorably is a problem for victoria.
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... and that's literally what my tweet that seras quoted and my og post on this was abt... this is going in circles
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rant ahead i never claimed vic was changing the image of china/chinese ppl in korea. obviously one person doesn't have that kind of power. i said she had to create a positive image for herself and her group in spite of anti-chinese sentiments. and vic was already being dragged into the conversation when knetizens were shitting on chinese idols in general. now they're separating vic out from kris specifically to highlight that she is a good leader. which is a good thing IMO. if u like kris, sorry. but he's not promoting in korea anymore and knetizen opinion doesn't affect him at all. vic is, and i'm glad she isn't being lumped in with him and hangeng. they're safe, she's not.
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which is why i said i was worried when the news broke... and yah netizens r morons but they're influential morons. once u get a bad rep, however flimsy the reasons, it sticks with u
