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  1. As far as the volatility towards Dongyue, I think people went from hating her to not hating her anymore because they felt bad at yesterday's event. Some felt bad enough to start casting votes, but from what I read the majority said they aren't going to start voting for her just because of this.
  2. Not sure if this is where bzz heard it from, but I saw a douban post with a similar rumor minus the part about all banana girls except fujing being dropped. I feel like it'd be awkward for a company to drop a trainee in the middle of the show. Dongyue might not have high chances of making final group, but she'll at least make it to the finale. https://www.douban.com/group/topic/118305069/ There seem to be a lot of unfounded rumors in the douban group lately though. Latest supposed leaked ranking by a poster have huge changes in results, and to me it's clearly unbelievable, but many users seem to think it might be true or at least have had their mood dampened by it. Among the surprising ranks, that user said Wangju is 2, Chaoyue is 9, Sunnee is 11, Zixuan is 23. That user has already deleted their ranking, but there were so many comments in the thread and so many subsequent threads made about if it's true or not, even now.
  3. Read that that ranking is fake, it does seem hard to believe when everyone's numbers ends so evenly with 0s. I'm really curious to read the comments of the original post, but can't find it for the life of me. New dorm bts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09EYODnMK3Q Apparently Mimi and Kimberly have visa issues so that's why they're frequently missing from bts.
  4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mlIaeHK6E
  5. Oh I see it now, thanks! You're right, It's an interesting ranking to see, but I don't think it holds too much weight in predicting results. I think loosely you can use this to see how strong the fanbases are. The popular members who are lower in this ranking compared to their actual ranking are the ones that I would have picked out as having a significant portion of casual or general viewer votes, ie Qiuzi, Kimberly, Aojuan, Yamy, Dongyue, Ziting
  6. 1. Xuanyi 2. Meiqi 3. Sunnee 4. Chaoyue 5. Meiyun 6. Zining 7. Zixuan 8. Fujing 9. Wangju 10. Renyu 11. Ziting 12. Mengjie 13. Aojuan 14. Yamy 15. Qianying 16. Yihan 17. Yingxi 18. Ruiqi 19. Jiangshen 20. Yaoke 21. Yandi 22. Angela 23. Dongyue 24. Xiaoyu 25. Qiuzi 26. Wangqing 27. Yijia 28. Siqian 29. Kimberly 30. Fanwei 31. Yingxiang 32. Yitian Ah, so fans, signed, and percentage signed? Where are they drawing the fan numbers from, and what does the singing part mean?
  7. I really can't understand how they come up with these numbers. I believe it's some sort of analysis using most recent voting numbers. If anyone knows, please explain to me.
  8. Chances to rise into final 11. Wangju >> Meiyun > Zixuan > Renyu Still believe only 2 of current 11 will drop. However, as there's increasing desperation to get some of these girls into top 11, it's possible they can overtake more of the bottom 11. Wangju still a wild card for me, remains to be seen how many of her voters are serious about getting her into debut 11 vs following the trend. If voting in final rank is similar to previous and that it's only live voting within the airing time of the final ep, then I'd guess the fanvote to casual viewer vote is higher compared to a normal voting week as casual viewers might not watch live. If they never decrease down to a top 1-2 pick, Gao Qiuzi has better likelihood of remaining in top 11.
  9. I'm really neutral about her because of that reason. Her personality seems super nice, low-key, and quiet type. So far haven't seen her as interesting or fun. Also why I don't think she has as good of a shot as Meiyun, Zixuan, Renyu. Personalities play a huge role in attracting dedicated fan support. There's a lot of people who list Yixing as one of the most probable to rise to debut rank though. Read that she has really good company support, although it wasn't really explained and I don't get how much difference a company can make at this point in the show. Maybe that they're able to persuade Tencent to air more of their trainees' screentime.
  10. Woah Jiang Shen's perf was very pretty. Lol one of the first things I noticed. This angle is a bit creepy tho
  11. The performance itself was good, the girls were doing a good job. But Lucia's amazing voice isn't shown at all. The song also sounds outdated and not memorable, just my opinion. With a population the size of China, they have no shortage of raw talent. What they need is the creation part. They haven't evolved since 90s/early 00s and there really isn't a modern pop girl group sound in China (or even pop genre really for that matter) I believe 10. Wiki initially said 12, it's now 10 though, as is the chinese wiki. And I've heard 6/23 as the final results date.
  12. Ya'll, seems a fire has been lit under Zixuan fans, her position has risen on several rankings.
  13. So sad, this is what talent companies in China are doing with someone like Lucia. And people wonder why China hasn't been able to create a good girl group
  14. Read about what happened from fanaccounts. Some said Chaoyue had another trainwreck and some said it was okay just too quiet. But also read that after the performance, Chaoyue apologized and tried to re-sing but was also crying hard. So this more or less shows that Chaoyue really did mess up. The degree of it I guess we'll only know after it airs. Pretty sure we're about to see Tencent eat their words about cutting screentime of any contestant whose footage is leaked. There's no way they're about to cut such a controversial topic that will get everyone buzzing. Plus, now that it's already trended, there will be outrage if footage is cut and she's edited nicely. And the cycle continues once more. Chaoyue can't improve fast enough to meet expectations and messes up, criticism and hate explode, her fans work harder to vote and protect her, her rank continues to fly high. Rinse and repeat. It's never ending and each time we go around it'll just get more heated. Ahh, so was it a one time event? Or does it occur weekly? Tencent really maxed out their voting activities and platforms, it's ridiculous.
  15. No, I would agree. Yamy has an "oriental exotic" type of beauty that I think in the West is liked for those types of high fashion modelling. I mean, even in the P101 ads, Yamy is the one they give the crazy makeup and outfits to. I think it's her confidence that allows for her to work any type of crazy styling. Personally I love how Yamy makes her small eyes, which is so opposite of conventional Chinese beauty standards, into one of her charming points. I don't think it's to a level to be called evil editing. That was her own schtick to have the whole ugly screaming crying face and many people disliked her because of this. They did give some footage to ZTT's practicing and improvement (maybe I'm wrong though because the bts footage left a bigger impression on me and I can't remember all of what was aired), and even though there was improvement, ZTT's dance level just started too low and she ultimately wasn't able to pull off a very good 2nd performance. There were 7 other hardworking trainees, and possibly ZTT had the most amount of focus on her progress. Also Tencent was a downright angel to ZTT to nix the scene of her teammates calling her out on not working hard and being late to rehearsals. Had it been aired officially I'm almost certain ZTT would not have made it past first round of eliminations.
  16. Someone's prediction on weibo (https://weibo.com/1836604483/GjtOceW85?refer_flag=1001030103_&type=comment#_rnd1528125834696) Green = safely enters 11 : Meiqi, Chaoyue, Xuanyi, Yamy, Zining Yellow = large chance to enter 11 : Ziting, Sunnee, Aojuan, Fujing Red = nearly no chance of entering 11 : Dongyue, Qiuzi Blue = highest variability contestants : Yingxi, Zixuan, Meiyun, Renyu, Mengjie Outside of top 16 from last round, everyone else (except Wangju) basically has no shot to make it. Column 4 is "heart rate", not entirely sure what it means or how it's calculated. In Chinese they said it means æ´»è·ƒç²‰ä¸æ•°é‡å’Œæ‰§è¡ŒåŠ›çš„å应 which I think is something like, number of fans and how well they carry out their support. Working under the scenario that Wangju doesn't make top 11- If all of yellow makes it in (very high probability), then 2 from blue will make it in. If one from yellow drops out, 3 from blue will make it. If two from yellow drops (very low probability), 4 from blue will make it. Ranking of probability to make top 11 among the blues Meiyun > Yingxi > Renyu ≥ Zixuan > Mengjie Conclusion: 1. You could say Xu Mengjie has almost no possibility of making it anymore 2. Hope for Lai Meiyun and Gao Yingxi to make top 11 is large 3. At most, between Liu Renyu and Li Zixuan, only one will make it in (if someone from Ziting, Aojuan, Sunnee, Fujing drop out) Agree for the most part, but imo it's really between these 3- Meiyun > Renyu ≥ Zixuan Idk maybe Yingxi fans are just super lowkey, but I feel like I don't see a lot of them From accounts of people who went to watch 3rd performances live, Zixuan did really well. There is some hope for her to gain a boost in votes among casual viewers/fans. If someone from yellow does drop out, I'd predict it's Fujing, but I don't think it's a likely possibility. Wangju is a wild card, I lean slightly no, but I really can't guess well at the moment. Also I'm anxious to know how/if/when they will change voting rules, this will change the progression and the final results.
  17. Don't mind me, I'm just dumb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOXo3gswUqI Tencent screwing Angela's screetime for the second time Someone come collect this child Dajuan described Zixuan as she's either a baby or a granny. And the Yoojung parallels continue.
  18. My bad! Must have been like rubbing salt on your wounds. Sometimes I get them mixed up at first glance More talent shows Sunnee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixn-1k56cgE Wang Ting and Danmeng https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDP2CW31TIk Wow they should have included this!! Danmeng rocked that performance, her gaze was killer.
  19. Watch Chaeyeon's right side when NaKyul do their greeting, then NaKyul's reaction. It looks like maybe Chaeyeon followed their greeting with them haha
  20. Clips that were cut from the talent show segment, quite dry, I get why they were cut.. except Dajuan
  21. I legit thought Mohan and Yandi were one person until ep7 talent show where they are in the same frame.
  22. She started getting more screentime after first elim round where she was saved though. So still falls under the rule.
  23. I thought Junyi was going to be saved because of that editing, really evil indeed. While I enjoy that the most recent ep had an efficient ranking announcement, some of Tao's questions to the trainees and lead up to the reveal ended up being mean because of how quickly he announced the trainee's elimination right after. That's so terrible and not even something I thought of. I hope this doesn't happen................
  24. That's essentially where I stand. Again, I don't actually hate on Chaoyue herself, like I said she's just doing the best she can do in the situation. The frustration is on the results, and how her fans have furthered the narrative that looks are the only thing that are important. Chaoyue could be her same self, and if she wasn't as highly ranked, there wouldn't be as big of an outrage. She is who she is and the world works how it works. It's just frustrating that this is the world we live in where there's still a significant amount of people with that mindset that a female's only qualification is her looks. I don't have it in my mind that Chaoyue somehow holds the reputation of all women. However just these events occurring, it is something that exists that is real and what happens, and it has an impact on how everyone, male and female, form their impression of the reality of the world. My criticism is exactly towards that patriarchy that holds up beauty as the standard and puts down women for being something other than the norm. I should have worded my initial post about the reactor's position better because I believe she as well doesn't hate on Chaoyue personally so much as she does the situation and her fans.
  25. Incompetence is never a version of femininity that I want to see celebrated. No issue of Chaoyue being cute and "charming" (personally not for me although I've warmed up in more recent eps), she's just doing the best she can with the scenario she found herself in. What message does her standing on the show send to all the other contestants, to all of the viewers of the show, to the younger women watching the show in China, the next generations of females that will be idolizing the contestants that become popular after this show. Hard work? Talent? Positive attitude? Good personality? You can have it all and still amount to nothing, not considered worthy to support or invest in. Many of Chaoyue's male fans seem to actually have this mindset. They are conveying that the single most important thing, the single most important qualification, for women and female celebrities is that they're pretty and cute. The only thing of value for women is their looks. And they are winning in the portrayal of this message.
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