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It's startinnnnnnng!!
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2 original song performances, performance with all 101, individual solo segments (doubt full song), read that those who chose dance had 2 extra dances to learn, possibly means that dance and vocal teams have a group performance?
Then there's still the final ranking announcement. And who knows how much airtime they'll give these celeb guests..
I would expect longer than 2hr too
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Pretty late to ask, since the rankings are being released daily, do the contestants know or aware of their daily rankings? Like maybe being told by their fans when they go from dorm to practice halls or are they allowed to use mobile phones or internet to search the rankings?
They have access to staff phones plus those Oppo R15 phones. They def check and read what people are saying about them, so I'm sure they are aware their daily rankings too.
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So did their companies make up, or is Tencent just cruelly toying with Sunnee fans until the last moment?
And what the hell do they want Zixuan to do in order to let her debut???
730p I believe they start showing some bts footage. 8pm I think is start of final ep
Xiaoying telling fans that Zixuan is super cool, we can anticipate [her performance]
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Think KorAm asked for total amounts raised so far: found this surfing weibo, total raised via crowdfunding for top 22

Keep in mind, eliminated contestants like Jiangshen also had fans that bought a shit ton of cards.
Also this doesn't include the amount Tencent made off of people buying cards individually or upgrading to VIP for more votes.In order: Meiqi, Xuanyi, Chaoyue, Sunnee, Meiyun, Zixuan, Fujing,Renyu, Zining, Mengjie, Yihan, Yamy, Aojuan, Wangju, Yingxi, Ziting, Qiuzi, Yandi, Xiaoyu, Dongyue, Angela, Lucia
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the fuck sorry I had to used that gif to fully express my reaction I didn't see that coming at all , like at all she is amazing, I wasn't doubting what you guys were saying but still just woow
I have to agree with you guys her level of skills is one of the best if not the best
Now I'm a bit pissed she hasn't go a change to show that side of her, I think they could have play with that a lot in the show it would def be an interesting storyline, the girl who looks super cute tiny and a bit clumsy/nerdish but than is totally a pro at hip-hop
I mean it's a lot telling that dance it's her best skill and it wasn't properly highlighted on second thought it wasn't highlighted at all
Lol, imagine lamenting for weeks as a Zixuan stan... To viewers she gives a cutesy crybaby vibe that fits perfectly these weird meme-like songs, no indication that she is actually a really amazing dancer and can fit all sorts of styles. I'm certain she'd have more fans if only she'd gotten a good opportunity to show that reverse charm side. She did want to be in Meiqi's group for the 3rd performance, but blame Tencent and their "fun" way of assigning teams. It would have definitely caught people by surprise seeing her be able to pull off that kind of style. Was complaining to my roommate about it, and his first reaction was "you think she'd fit?"
This dum dum also chose to do this silly skit with her roommate for the "show a different side of me" segment. She's too non competitive and easygoing, plus modest about her skills. Used the opportunity to try to be entertaining rather than try to show off what she's got. Sigh...
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that's very interesting I'm myself am a dancer and I feel quiet bad I haven't noticed Zixuan dance abilities
, even tho a lot of people consider her the best Do you have any clips of her dancing I would love to see it , actually I rarely see bts footage even individual fancams maybe that's why I haven't really notice her
Not taking in consideration any technical aspects the dancers I'm most drawn to are Yingxi, Mei Qi, and Mengjie but maybe I'm being bias since I like them a lot as overall contestants
Well she's gotten Seaweed dance and Other Family's Kid (tn?) for her songs so yeah....not songs you'd be able to particularly notice strong dance skills hah..
Can't find yt version of this one v
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av24134648?from=search&seid=2053733964920967562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa7f9IuUhSg
Check spoiler for more!
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Context of the discussion is balancing out the group...Doesn't matter that 2 are good dancers if majority is still singer heavy..And let me be completely honest, without intent to offend, heck I vote for Meiqi daily and have voted Xuanyi several times as well. Xuanyi's dancing is very much average in the kpop setting. She's okay on P101 because majority have barely had dance training, even then her dance stage was weak for showcasing dance talent. Call it bad luck for getting a weak choreo if you want..Meiqi is no question an amazing dancer. There are some other good dancers as well and I wouldn't consider her leaps and bounds above all 100 others. Take this how you want, a well known insider (only ever given accurate info, ie elim results, what the ep will include, what the groups are, how rehearsals went, etc etc), previously gave info on the dance teachers' critique of contestants' dance ability.
Meiqi is very slow at learning dances, she admits it herself. Those that dance other styles like Yan Kexi who does jazz, the dance teachers think she's the best. Yamy's dance sense/feeling is good but her core and limbs aren't flexible enough. Luo Yitian's ability to exert force is at a primary level. Du Jinyu's basics training needs to be worked on. Luo Yitian's moves are a little stiff, the dance teachers praise Weijin as the best in this aspect. Other dancers all have their own issues too. For example one day the teacher told Xu Mengjie that she's too hesitant when dancing, when she didn't remember the moves she'd stop and think and get distracted. SDT Gao Yingxi is also really good, teachers say her moves are perfect but she doesn't express the mood right, like a dancer not a star/celeb. All the dance teachers gave the highest evaluation to Li Zixuan, they think she's the most outstanding, regardless if it's the moves or the mood.If you choose not to believe this, there was also the aired clip during re-rank evals where Yibo said he thinks Zixuan is the best dancer of everyone.Even I don't necessarily take this at face value, I realize it can offend other fandoms plus other factors such as connecting with the viewer, etc, so I'm not shouting proclamation that Zixuan is the #1 dancer of the show. I think at minimum Zixuan ranks top 2 or top 3, her dance ability is unfortunately easily overlooked if you don't watch her individual cams, watch the bts, or watch her prior dance vids posted online.
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Her flight was cancelled. She took highspeed train instead.
My b, just saw pics of her arrival, assumed plane.
Depending on how rigged the lineup is, usually the last ep is when people actually try to balance out the group. The number of dancers, singers, visuals, variety character, etc. This is why I want QZ in the group. She's that variety member.And also I think YX would be a perfect maknae (youngest member) and dancer.
Current lineup is more singer heavy, if they wanted a balanced group they would save spot for a dancer. Then again, how much are they caring about balancing the group, plus Chinese market will naturally emphasize singing over dancing so they might not care for an even split.
For balance, my reasons why Zixuan would be a great addition. Of course the dancer aspect, she's praised a lot for her dancing, dance teachers all agree she's the best of the contestants, and she's frequently called to the front and used as an example. And she can surprisingly handle a wide variety of styles.
Outside of dance, she can hold her own with singing, rapping, stage performance too.
She gets along really well with all the contestants. Earlier was talked about, she could play a Yoojung like role in the group. She‘s a mood maker and could help the whole group gel together since she has good relationships with so many members. Bts dance practice of Lucia Angela Kimberly, Zixuan joined and they were laughing and having fun during practice, yes even Kimberly!
Variety aspect, Qiuzi is downright hilarious so not drawing comparisons or anything. Zixuan I think has a great variety side as well and will be entertaining to watch on reality shows. Check how several contestants chose her as having the most fun/interesting personality.
For visuals, all I can say is, she gets more flak than I think she deserves. I'll admit her face can look puffy easily and sometimes she looks like a little granny, lol. But actually I’d consider her about average and if made up well, I don't know how anyone can call her ugly.
I would definitely get if maybe she was a soloist but for a girl group setting
she just doesn't fit for me. I'm also unfamiliar with c-pop. But my opinions will more than likely change once we finish with show and the group can move on to bigger and better things and we which music direction they'll take.Yeah I highly doubt the musical direction of the group is the type that Aojuan would really be able to shine in. I'd imagine breakout OSTs possible as side solo jobs or her trajectory after the group ends.
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Of the 3 Tencent is gunning for, I think Aojuan has the best casual viewer/voter likability and the strongest fanbase. In reality I think her rank falls around 11th place. Yamy is a little lower, Ziting for sure is least popular.I like Renyu and wouldn't mind her being in the group I just like Qi Yandi and Wangju more

Honestly though the only member in the top 11 I can truly do without is Aojuan. Whether people like Chaoyue or not she gets people talking but I don't see much for Aojuan. Yeah she's a good singer but literally so is Ziting, Ziting, MeiQi, Fujing, Renyu and Meiyun.
As I listed we have a bunch of singers Aojuan doesn't offer anything else to the table. Tencent pushing of her pretty much guarantees her position at this point so I hope she proves me wrong in the future...
There are other vocals, and Aojuan isn't even the best singer, but she has that voice that is memorable, moving, and perfectly matches China's taste. I think it was the composer coach who said if he's walking on the street and heard her song, he MUST find out who's singing. When I first heard her sing, it was hands down, jack pot, goldmine, they found someone who could be the next massively successful OST singer, she can be HUGE if she gets the right songs/opportunities. Even now, I think Aojuan has the best potential for her songs to be hits and make the most impact on the music scene as a singer.
Think those who don't follow cpop or don't have the same taste as China have a hard time getting why people like her.
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I'm gonna have to go into final ep prepared with both tissues and daggers for either scenario... Imagine must be the effect Tenent wanted to create...
Whatever, just let Zixuan debut and I don't care whatever else you want to do
Chengxiao seen at the airport, making good on her promise to Xuanyi to come to final ep.
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Chaoyue and Zixuan both have unexpected inner strength. For Zixuan it's unfortunate how her footage shows her always crying or with the weird songs. Good amount of people are turned off by seeing the girls cry, or people overlook her abilities due to the songs she's gotten. Her crybaby image is so strong on the show, but she's got a really fun and silly personality that isn't showcased much. And because she cries easily you think she's weak and fragile, but actually her mom was tough on her growing up and she's gone through quite a bit trying to make it as an idol.
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https://m.weibo.cn/status/Gmw7G6o3J
Finally a segment similar to Mnet's choose your pick of each category!
Best visuals
Meiqi: 1 Xuanyi. 2, personally, Yamy. She likes that high class and cool vibe. She's shy and doesn't usually approach others first, but Yamy was actually the first person she approached because she thought she was cool.
Xuanyi: Chaoyue. She's very pure and real. Meiqi, no one is sexier than her. Her vibe, no matter how she stands she's sexy. Fujing who she thinks looks like a famous celeb.
Yamy: Weijin
Best personality
Meiyun: In my mind the most fun personality is Douzi.
Xuanyi: I think she's [Zixuan] a super fun person. I really like being with her every day.
Meiqi: The first time I met Li Zixuan I really thought she's super silly. Everything hit my funny spot.
Aojuan: For ex someone's bday, or she visits other rooms, she loves to visit other rooms, she'll knock and say, "Hi! I'm a Disney princess, here's a song for you!"
Zixuan: That's right, I just have this type of interesting spirit.
Who to switch bodies, switch spirit with?
Yamy: Meiqi for body, she's a fan of Meiqi's curves (LOL). Xuanyi for spirit, she wants to experience being the most popular.
Xuanyi: Sunnee because she's handsome and she can pick up more girls. She likes pretty girls (LOL)
Sunnee: Yandi because she's cute/pretty
Aojuan: Yandi because her face is small and pretty. But she needs to exchange the whole body because her figure isn't that great. Then she can make herself up and go shopping or watch movies.
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Edit: Chaoyue, Meiqi, Xuanyi and Douzi chose dance, Zining and Renyu vocal
Yessssssss!! Praying, Zixuan please show the type of dance all your fans have been wanting to see! This is your chance, go and maximize and show everyone what you've got!
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And I think tencent is trying squeeze every cent out of sunnee's fans by placing her at the 13th.
No shame, no shame at all...
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Tbh I almost feel safer seeing Zixuan's rankings remain the same at 12.. Guess that's what happens when Tencent plays too hard with rankings like it's a yo-yo.
I still don't get it how Mengjie climbed up so much...
I am honestly fine with current line up as long as xizuan makes the final cut. Still confused about the sudden rise of Mengjie tho (at least Renyu seemed to have had a solid and active fan base for weeks already)
Mengjie has consistently had a decently solid fanbase. Pure fanbase strength ranking, she's right around 10-11. The latest rise another few ranks likely helped by her family story that's been talked about more in these last 1-2 eps. Moreover, personally I believe it's that Tencent knows they can gain more money by pushing Renyu, Zixuan, Meiyun's ranks down or out of debut circle. So Mengjie has stayed stationery around 10-11.
Latest fundraising battle involving 6 houses- Meiqi, Mengjie, Yihan, Mimi, Qiuzi, Renyu. 2nd column is amount raised, 3rd is total participants. Both categories Mengjie has 2nd highest. Some relevant context, Renyu fandom has been in more fundraising battles than Mengjie's, so they will be limping along the more battles they have/the more frequent they are. But still, Mengjie's numbers are impressive on their own.
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off topic is there any Chinese people on this thread that can read mandarin? this may sound like a silly question but I'm learning Japanese and now that I know some Kanji I can't help but to notice it looks quiet similar to Mandarin characters
So is it the same? can you guys read kanji and Japanese in general ?
From my limited knowledge of Japanese, they have 2-3 different alphabets, one of which uses Chinese characters. But because their writing is mixed with all of the alphabets, I won't be able to really read and understand the writing. If there's text maybe at most I can see the characters I know and get an idea of the main topic.
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How to register? What are the details i need to fill in? How do i follow the girls accounts?
I haven't tried translating everything cos I'm watching ep9 now lol. But I'll try later.
Top right, look for 注册, my next page is translated to English since I'm in the states. If not, there are 2 options you can register using your phone or your email. This is the 1st box. If you want to use the other option, look for the blue hyperlink below the box and click it. Then you need to make up a password, and 3rd box is to retype the characters on the right. Then just click the orange box below to signup.
To follow accounts, use the search bar top left to look for their account. You can click the 找人 option at the top of the results page to just search those words among users. Once you find it and are on their page, there will be a big orange button +Follow in the top middle area of the page. Mine is translated in English already, I believe if yours pops up in Chinese it'll say 关注.
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by the way I still haven't got a answer as to why Wang Ju dropped so much, I remember someone saying if Wang Ju doesn't debut the show goes to from being 99% rigged to 100%
So do you guys think it's Tencent manipulating the results? or it was all just a fad?
Imo a fad. She was like a meme that spread like wildfire across the internet and there were a bunch of fun fan cheers about voting for her. It was spread among friend group chats, people were pulling all of their friends and getting them to vote for Wangju and it lasted about a week. If the majority of her voters don't watch the show, it's unlikely that they are driven to vote daily for her for the span of 2-3 weeks to keep her rank high until the final ep. And since most of her voters are just casual voters, she doesn't have a dedicated fanbase or large crowdfunding efforts.
It's possible that Tencent is artificially suppressing or inflating her votes. There was a rumor that ep 9 she was actually ranked 1st but Tencent changed the results so it wouldn't cause too big an outrage. But also there were people saying that Wangju shouldn't have ranked as highly as #2 in ep 8 because her numbers weren't actually that high. I find it believable Tencent might mess with her numbers to cause more of an issue. If Wangju really had high numbers right now though, I think Tencent would be maxamizing the drama they can out of it and do something more interesting with her rank.
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OK may someone give me a quick "Weibo for dummies" guide? I guess it's quite similar to Twitter just that it's Chinese.
Yep, that's about it. Is there something in particular you want to know, like a quick guide of how to use it or set up an account or?
New dorm bts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM7Gw8gthYo
Otw to rehearsal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6oAnXrwfS0
Backstage rehearsal footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmgbAdGXQQI
Anyone who wants to watch, video version of the Meiqi/Zixuan moment I posted earlier, @1:15
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4253329557564450?sudaref=login.sina.com.cn
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Hi and welcome to the thread!New to this thread! im not all caught up with the episodes, but i'm updated with the rankings bc of twitter. idk what this thread's general opinion of each contestant is, and maybe because i watched some of the episodes unsubbed with my mediocre chinese comprehension, i find a lot of the contestants forgettable.
that being said, wang ju (miss naomi) is my favourite. i know her rank has changed a lot recently but i love her character and i hope she'll go far whatever the outcome is after making it in the top 22.
Wangju is quite a polarizing contestant in this thread, if you go back some pages there was an entire 5+ pg span of debate about Wangju using baking and croissants as an analogy........don't ask.....Also, fair warning, you will probably be pissed reading what some people said about her..
Personally, I'm ambivalent. Appreciate the message she sends, but not particularly a fan of her style. Wish her the best and wouldn't care either way if she makes it or not, just think that she fits solo better.
Interesting... I thought the favoritism was weird when Xiaoyu got a whole solo stage during the top 22 fanmeet.
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Tencent registered another trademark name?

I'm impressed, something worse than Rocket Girls..
For any Zixuan x Meiqi fans like me:









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I don't know what Zixuan/OACA did to make Tencent have it out for her, making her ranking boomerang so freely like this. Sure as hell ain't fun as a Zixuan fan........... 13 -> 23 -> 17 -> 12 -> 7 -> 12
Yeah right Tencent..... quit playing already. I don't buy that votes between ranks 7-17 are that close.
Last 2 spots are between Zixuan, Renyu, Mengjie. Possibly though less likely, could be given to Qiuzi or Yingxi. Even less possibly, but can't completely discount- Wangju.
is this one pick?
11 pick
Where did Mengjie's fans come from?She's always had a mid tier level fanbase. Her rank on the show has stayed between 13-16 this whole time. Zixuan and Renyu have stronger fanbases though. Probably Tencent is alternating between Renyu and Zixuan being in and out of the top 11 to get the most money out of them.


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