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I get a sense that Sangmin (and One) are actually huge romanticists hahaha. In terms of Hyunjoo being overcome with emotion because of Dogyun writing "she's pretty", I do agree with you that he kind of overreacted, but I think that the panelists were really impressed at that part because saying that to someone else, especially when you don't know if your feelings are mutual, is considered really forward in Korean culture. ILike Eana, I really appreciate that the moment Hyunjoo realized how strong Dogyun's feelings for her were, she didn't lead him on and instead signaled that she doesn't necessarily feel the same way at that time. I'm honestly taking mental note of what she's been doing tbh lol...but it also helps that she has the "first love" good looks going for her so idk if that would work for normies like me . I don't think it's her trying to be cute, but I think it's a habit of hers when she's thinking. I actually find myself doing that pretty often when I'm contemplating something.

Random, but what is Minhyun like when it comes to skinship in general (both with the other Wanna One members and NU'EST)? I'm a pretty new fan of his and I can't get a grasp on how he is with skin-ship ...

When Daeun said that she figured out that she actually prefers people who are good at making others comfortable, I can't help but feel like she wasn't entirely being honest with herself and she was just voicing this out loud in order to convince herself? I'm just afraid of a situation happening where she actually still is interested in Hyunwoo but because it's not mutual, she's trying to convince herself that someone like Jaeho would be a better match in order to soften the blow. I think that this episode revealed that Jaeho's feelings are actually genuine. He's been one of the most straightforward about his feelings but I think he needs to learn how to take a step back and allow the other person some space to breathe; judging by his conversation with Youngjoo, I'm guessing that this is/was an overarching problem in his past relationships. As genuine as his feelings are, because he's much more forward than the average person, he needs to realize that he might have to restrain himself a little so that the other person doesn't feel like they're being pulled along without any time to sit back and think. Being too forward, even if the feelings are mutual, can end up backfiring on him because the other party might feel stifled and as if they're trapped with no other option...but like Youngjoo said, maybe that means that the other person just doesn't realize his true values and by extension, means that they might not just be a good fit for him. That conversation he had with Youngjoo when he touched upon his past relationships ending badly really made my heart ache; I think it's the first time we've really seen Jaeho revealing his emotional side. Honestly though, as others might condemn him for his actions (manipulating conversations to make it clear to the others that Daeun is off the table), these are tactics that I often see people use in real life. There's a saying somewhere (I think it's Korean? Not entirely sure) that I'm realizing rings true the older I get— "Everyone becomes pathetic when it comes to matters dealing with love".

Why was everyone freaking out over Daeun going to Hyunwoo's restaurant? They might just be friends, they did live in a house together for a month+ and out of everyone, she seems the most amicable to me. As much as I don't really like that she's on the show probably because of her career aspiration, she comes off as a very nice person who would generally do her best to get along with everyone. Watching Gyubin is so sad because he seems to try to appeal to Youngjoo that he's more than just a younger guy, but everything he does just shouts youth haha. It probably is difficult for her too because she has a younger brother so it might be a barrier that's even more difficult to overcome, aside from her strong feelings for Hyunwoo. I'm so glad that the editors cleared up the whole Gyubin entering the girls' room!!! And through this episode you can see that the guys actually have been inside the girls' room at least a few times...glad to know that this show isn't (as) scripted as it came off the last episode. Watching Jangmi and Do Gyun's date was so refreshing~ I sympathize with Hyunjoo but I really loved the chemistry between Jangmi and Do Gyun...and also, did you guys see what looked like little attempts of skinship when they were at the wine bar towards the end of the date (when they were exchanging the hand creams)???? That made me so happy~ Idk how Americanized Jangmi is (she's from Flushing/Queens and despite being fluent in Korean, she does have a slight accent), but it seems like she's a lot more comfortable with skinship and almost seems to have to restrain herself from initiating it because she's on the show??? I just wanted her to grab Do Gyun's hand so badly to see his reaction .

Also, in regards to Daeun, girl is unfortunately such a bore to watch because she just kind of seems to...exist and just does the bare minimum? Like I said in my comment above about Gyubin, I think the staff shouldn't have casted her, but for obviously very different reasons. I just don't think they should have casted someone who is entering/working in the entertainment industry because there's a lack of sincerity to their words and actions and it just comes off as them being in it to for the promotion. Obviously the others can also have gone on the show for less than genuine purposes as well, but the direct correlation between their work and being in a reality TV show just isn't there like it is for Daeun, an aspiring actress? That can also be applied to Yoonkyung from Season 1, but she was at least working in the footwear industry (and let's be honest, she's just one of those rare people who are not only striking to look at, but also is very charming).

Oh definitely, especially since he has the memory of her catching his eye in the past and clearly she's living up to or even surpassing his expectations. Even if someone isn't big on fate, being given a chance like this is so hard to come by that it adds an element of intrigue and unique excitement that most people don't get in their relationships...I know I would totally be head over heels like HW seems to be . I'm just worried that their past connection + sharing similarities in their likes (the speaker, the song, and soondae-guk) might blind HW into thinking that they must be super compatible with each other and ignore signs that they actually might not be a good fit. It's honestly really difficult to see how much HW really knows YJ as a viewer...I just hope that he's not creating this false image of who she is and putting her on a pedestal because that's a trap that's so easy to fall into. Honestly, I don't think it was a great idea to cast him...he's not only younger than all the girls, which puts him in a big disadvantage (especially with such a large age gap between him and Hyunwoo, the oldest hyung in the house, so you can't just help but compare the two), but also because he's currently still a student. I think him being a student just reinforces the idea that he's younger and inexperienced so he really has big two strikes against him. Considering they're only spending a short period of time living together, superficial impressions like these are hard to look past unfortunately...poor Gyubin; I don't even know what exactly I want to see happen so that he isn't stuck in this situation but again, I don't want the Heart Signal staff to intervene just so he comes off as less pitiable or to create more drama. I'm guessing that for indoor scenes they most likely just install a bunch of cameras throughout the restaurants/interior? And for outdoor scenes, there are camera-men, but they probably follow at some kind of distance. ...what even...?

I don't understand why some people are saying that they wish HW was more direct? Because unfortunately there's the rule where they can't say anything too direct to the other person's face, so in his mind, he's being as direct as he can...and during the car ride, he kept talking about how he's strangely nervous, shy, etc. I mean, how forward does he have to get for some people to be satisfied? Fortunately, people in this thread are generally being mature and not jumping the gun but in some other places it's like they were just looking for another excuse to jump on the hate bandwagon again. I just hope things work out between the two and this doesn't end up in them clearing their misunderstanding after moving on to other people. I've stated before that Gyubin is such a sweet guy (honestly, he's actually the Serin 2 of this season) and I wouldn't mind it if he and YJ were able to naturally start developing feelings for each other, but at this point it would seem way too contrived...if YJ ends up picking him after this misunderstanding with HW, that would really leave such a bad taste in my mouth. And like the others stated, it's just SO weird that the one time we're shown one of the guys finally entering the girls' room is when Youngjoo was crying and it just had to be Gyubin and not any of the others (girl or guy) who happened to see YJ in that state? Yeah okayyyyy. . I was actually looking forward to Daeun and Jaeho drama but totally forgot about it while watching the episode hahah. I wonder if they're going to even bother showing Hyunjoo and Daeun's dates?? I actually hope so because I need a break from the Hyunwoo & Youngjoo drama. Also, I can't believe there are still so many episodes left!!! Just the thought that we're not even halfway through actually makes me even more worried lol.

I re-watched episode 4 and when Youngjoo was asking her what was going on, Hyunjoo continued descending the stairs so it's very likely Youngjoo found out through the others. It's not HJ I have a problem with, it's her course of action at that moment regardless of how brief it was. Much like in situations when a child asks their parents or a friend asks another friend to clarify a situation and the other party just gives a vague answer, it just leads to more confusion and the child or friend may even feel like they're purposely being kept in the dark even if that's not the other person's intention. Obviously this is something that bothers me a lot more than it does to you. I think maybe people thought that Youngjoo vaguely resembled Serin (especially their eye area)? HW being referred to as "daddy", "alpha", or as you put it, a "shark", is hilarious to me because as the season is progressing, HW clearly has no idea what his presence is like in the house and he's turning out to just be a slightly awkward, confused ball of fluff .

Starting from the first episode, Hyunjoo was/is as giggly with Daeun and Youngjoo as she is with the boys so I have a feeling that her giggling is her way of subconsciously comforting herself when she's in an awkward or uncomfortable situation or at least to subconsciously diffuse the tension in the room? Hyunjoo probably doesn't even realize how often she does it and it's kind of sad that she was/is hated because of it. The only time that it can be a problem in real life is when it can cause misunderstandings because it's an "inappropriate" response when other people think that she's not taking them or the situation seriously. The only part that really irked me (aside from the stupid irrational side that wishes for her to just let YJ and HW interact with each other more but I still don't dislike her during those moments) was when she was being really shady about where she was going with HW. I get that crushes can make people irrational and immature but...come on, really? I've seen similar situations happen amongst friends, co-workers, and acquaintances and this kind of behavior just doesn't settle well with me. I also don't get why Youngjoo was called Serin2?? Like where did that even come from?

No, that makes perfect sense! You took the words right out of my mouth. I guess in a sense that's the whole idea of the manic pixie-dream girl but it's a much, much more diluted version in this case. Character traits like "bright", "shy", "loud", etc. are superficial and are pretty much just first-impressions so basing compatibility purely off of those trait would be a bit nonsensical. That video!!! The Heart Signal staff seriously know what they're doing this season...teasing their viewers like this </3. If only Heart Signal was longer and could then include the housemates developing their bonds with each other in general. So sort of like Terrace House but a bit more faster paced. So far everyone is loving the Zero-Text Bros and watching the refreshing talk between the girls was also so pleasant to watch, especially since they're supposed to be "love-rivals" and there's that dumb stereotype of girls getting super catty when it comes to things like this . Aside from me wanting HJ to not get in the way of YJ and HW, I do like her as a person. I've read other opinions where they think/thought she was conniving and manipulative (although I was not a fan of how she was so reluctant to tell YJ where she was going when she was accompanying HW to the hospital), I've always found her to be overall, pretty direct and honest, which are traits I always appreciate. Hopefully we won't see any evil-editing because she doesn't deserve any more hate than she's been getting already...and I hope she isn't so one-track minded and gives the other boys a chance. I'm going to be so upset if the couples end up the way it is in the promo poster. It's so obvious that it's to unbelievable but at the same time...ugh, that would be so cruel of them to do that to us lol.

? I thought they did at around 1:15, unless there's a scene in the trailer that I haven't seen. I find it hard to see Hyunwoo going back to Hyunjoo because it's almost like "been there, done that"? Unlike Youngjoo who keeps showing new sides of herself, Hyunjoo's personality and charm seems rather...one-dimensional, for lack of a better word. In some ways that's her charming point because she doesn't feel the need to put up a facade but because it seems like she's pretty much the same both on and off a date, aside from initiating more skin-ship, I think that once someone starts losing interest in her it might be difficult for their feelings to be reignited. IMO, rather than it being slight shallowness on his part, it comes off as Do Gyun not being as used to being around women and/or inexperience with dating. I think I recall him saying in one of the past episodes that he's actually pretty awkward in front of girls, but I might be totally misremembering that...if that's the case, his lack of experience/general awkwardness around girls makes him less likely to venture into "unknown territory". I also think he has this preconceived notion that because he's on the calmer, more solemn side, he needs someone who's much more on the opposite side of the spectrum and that bleeds into what he finds attractive (both in terms of physicality and personality). Because he's so introspective and hesitant with his words and actions, rather than someone who's bright and bubbly, I think someone who is patient, considerate, but still forthright would be a good match. From the first episode, rather than finding him cold, I was like "yep, this boy is awkward and shy, and this is going to be fun to watch" . He and Hyunwoo are both tied as my favorites for different reasons; I totally want to see HW's love-line with YJ come into fruition and think YJ brings out his shy, awkward, bumbling side (I love how everyone, including me, thought he was this confident super-Alpha when he's actually this adorable ball of fluff), but for Do Gyun, I just like him as an individual and he makes me want to coddle him like some kind of weird grandmother lol. Actually, after Yoon Jong Shin said "With Gyubin's personality, I think that he'll pick YJ until the very end" and the psychologist (whose intelligence and rationality I find attractive lol) said "I honestly wish that doesn't happen but I think that's what's going to happen" with One chiming in in the background also agreeing that he wish that wouldn't happen ...Omg, Gyubin and Daeun would be hilariously awkward and painful to watch. I'm torn between wanting to see that happen but also knowing that it would be a total waste of time lol. With Hyunwoo, I guess if anything I can see a potential with Daeun but that might just be because of viewers' speculation from the IG "couple" photos...but it also wants me to bark "back off, he and YJ belong together!" which is soooo dumb and stupidly obsessive of me . I think I might prefer him moving forward with a new girl if he and YJ don't work out rather than him going back to HJ though. I think it's because he was trying so hard that it makes people want to root for him but...I'm not a fan of that kind of mentality when it comes to relationships. For sports and academics sure, but definitely not when it comes to the matters of the heart . YJ is clearly not that into him because she hasn't texted him after the courteous post-date text, so I find it a bit unfair for her that people think that Gyubin "deserves" her almost as if she was just an award for his hard-work (and pining)? It makes me a bit uncomfortable that the increase in Gyubin supporters just happened to coincide with episode 5's release, when a lot of people were so eager to jump on the HW hate bandwagon and it overall makes me feel bad for all parties involved. If YJ and GB do end up together, I hope it's not a matter of GB becoming YJ's rebound, but more so because she actually did find GB the most attractive. This show is making me think more about missed connections and how timing + dedication is actually so important...I think that especially these days with dating apps becoming increasingly commonplace, people are less patient and think that if there are no sparks right off the bat, that means that things won't work out. But some bonds just need more time to develop and you'll have a long, steady burn compared to a burst of heightened emotions from the start that ends up blowing out quite easily. You probably know what I'm getting at and yes, I'm referring to the "what could have been" between YJ and DG because seriously, if not for HW's intervention, I would have loved to see how this pairing played out, especially after their interactions at the end of episode 5 and sprinkled throughout episode 6 .

Why are some people Nice Guy â„¢ -ing Gyubin...? Like I get that he's very sweet but it's genuinely hard for me to grasp exactly why people are rooting so hard for Gyubin and Youngjoo when there were barely any moments between the two aside from their date and his pining looks lol. It kind of sucks because he seems like a genuinely good person and I appreciate that he's not being wishy-washy but...I still get vibes that YJ only views him as simply a "nice, younger guy" and their date wasn't all that special, so I'm just a bit puzzled as to why there have been so many Gyubin & Youngjoo shippers. I'm actually starting to feel sort of bad for him because it seems like some of his fans just seem to be hoping he and YJ get together because they're kind of going through second male-lead/under-dog syndrome and that because he's so "nice and sweet", seeing his heart signal going unrequited is just too painful for them to watch. Right now, I'm hoping that we get to see Youngjoo go on a second date with both Hyunwoo and Gyubin just so I can see if either party's feelings change and how things develop from there. Ugh I feel you because I'm trying to restrain myself from shipping YJ and HW 100% but it's SO hard because the editors are clearly manipulating us to root for this couple!!! I also agree with you on her and DG, but unfortunately I think it's too late and that they only view each other as "friends" at this point...and it'll be hard to break out of that mindset with the remaining time they have left at the house . I'm sooo curious at what could have been, but I guess just thinking about what if situations is a total waste of time. What mix-match dates are you guys curious to see (even just to see the two interact, not necessarily on a romantic level)? I want to see Jaeho go on a date with the other girls (either Hyunjoo or Youngjoo, but I'm strangely not that interested in seeing him and Jangmi), Do Gyun with Youngjoo and Jangmi, Gyubin with Hyunjoo (although seeing him with Daeun or Jangmi would be hilariously awkward), and Hyunwoo with Daeun (although this date fills me with trepidation but I can't help my morbid curiosity lol).

If anyone is interested in knowing the BGM of each episode, here's a link: http://m.ichannela.com/program/menu/prm_menu2_mob.do?cateCode=&pgm_contents=050030&type=03&menuIndex=5&seqIndex=0&realCateCode=05003004 Some people are saying that this season is 16 episodes (I don't know where their source is) but 16 seems so long? Unless they plan to give the housemates more opportunities to go on dates with different people because that's the only way I can see it lasting that long...Even if there are only 12 episodes like the previous season, that means we're only at the halfway point and a lot can change! From the trailers, we see Hyunwoo also going on a date with Daeun at one point (see the 2:57 mark in the video below) so Hyunwoo & Daeun being a couple is still a possibility. It seems that Daeun is just laying low at this point but I think the editors are bringing her back into the fold of things since she and Jaeho haven't been shown much in the most recent episodes.

I actually prefer unrequited crushes than people being forced to pair off. Obviously I hope a Serin situation doesn't happen though where it's painful to watch, but people being magically paired off one-by-one would just come off as forced and unbelievable . What about the rest of you? What would you prefer panning out?

Does anyone know how many episodes are left this season? And thanks to those who provided the link to the most recent episode~

Aside from streaming (since I don't have a Rabbit account and always have bad timing), is there anywhere you can watch the most recent episode RAW besides the usual subbing sites?

Idk why but the blasé way you said this just made my day lol.

Also, for anyone who's interested in what Youngjoo and Do Gyun were saying at the end of the episode, here's a rough translation I did (there are a few parts that I was a bit iffy about so I apologize in advance for any potential errors, especially since I'm not a professional translator):

MY DUDES, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. I was afraid that I was going to be the only one to not be as upset at what happened this episode and be the only one to still like Hyunwoo.

Interesting, thanks for letting me know about their talk in the last episode. When it comes down to it, even if you see sparks, communication is what it all boils down to; people communicate their feelings through different methods and if you can't understand that and get over that hurdle, it's just not meant to be. Hopefully we won't be seeing that happen this time around, although that does make good drama for us viewers...I won't mind it if we could actually see things play out more cleanly this season but if it plays out the way it did with the MSG couple, I can't promise that I won't rage .

That's true but a lot of idols, both males and females, tend to name actors/actresses as their ideal types since it's a "safe" option...or it's like back in the day how a lot of people used to choose Yoona from SNSD or Sandara from 2NE1 as their ideal type because they strangely became the "safe and expected" choice?? It's weird how these things work honestly, so it's kind of hard to say. I feel like if they name Youngjoo as their ideal type, people would generally be okay with that because she's pretty well liked, but if they were to say Hyunjoo...I don't expect things going the same way for her tbh :/ People are dumb like that. So as much as they might be open about their ideal types, I would think that's only when they think that that name is safe to say in the first place unfortunately. That would explain why Kriri and Jang Chun literally felt like it came out of NOWHERE. Like yeah sure, she and race car driver had their misunderstandings and Jang Chun was obviously endlessly pursuing her with Kriri kind of blushing occasionally, but still???? Just felt so random just from watching the episodes alone. I'm going to be so so angry if that happens this season and I'm trying not to get my hopes up for Youngjoo and Hyunwoo, but I can't stop myself .

Pretty sure they wouldn't say what girl they liked the most, but I'm def curious which couple they're rooting for! Also, Hyunwoo is such a sweetheart and I totally relate to him being too honest that when someone asks him a question and he can't give them the reply they want, he just ends up not saying anything (although I end up stumbling and tripping over my words lol). High-five for being the detectives we are! Let's open up an agency Ugh, why can't we see more of jokey-Do Gyun in the actual episodes?? They make it out like he's a robot (an endearing robot but still)!!! He was definitely joking when he said "you" to Daeun and in the next cut, you see Youngjoo saying that his skin/complexion improved and he replied "it's BB" (BB cream) and they all cracked up from the unexpected answer...so from that, it seems like he has a sense of humor where he likes throwing people off by giving them unexpected replies, which I wish we got to see more of~

I'm definitellyyyy stanning Youngjoo and Hyunwoo together; it might all be in my head, but he looked like he had such a crush on her the 3rd episode and then there's the fact that he remembered her as a customer from the past . I'll be so sad if he ends up with someone else </3. I actually didn't watch the last episode of the 1st season because I (stupidly, but very fortunately) read about how upset people were at the conclusion...so I refuse to watch it EVER lol. Others keep saying that they liked the first season better because of race-car driver and Kriri, but for me, this season so far has a bit of an edge over the first because all the girls adored Jang Chun when he was the mosttt borrrinnggg guy evverrrrr. But all the girls getting excited over Hyunwoo doesn't bore me because I find him interesting and charismatic? I hope we like the new girl as much as we're liking Youngjoo because I think a lot of people are getting tired of Daeun and Hyeonjoo surprisingly pretty early on in the season.

Tbh, I don't want to see Hyunwoo with Hyeonjoo and think it's going to be a total cringe-fest . I can see her more with Do Gyun than Hyunwoo, and watching her with Gyu Bin or Jaeho would feel too much like just watching friends. I don't dislike her, but I just don't find her very interesting to watch? As similar as Do Gyun and Hyunwoo may seem at first since they're both quite introspective and on the quiet side, they're very different. I think Do Gyun would be better paired off with someone who can easily provide him with verbal confirmation/positive reinforcement, which is why he got so happy during scenes of him with Hyeonjoo or Daeun. But Hyunwoo is the type that cares more about meeting his own standards and gives the impression that he doesn't care too much about receiving positive feedback from others, which is why a more grounded realist like Youngjoo (at least that's the way she comes off) seems to suit him better than a girl like Daeun or Hyeonjoo. This is all just speculation from only 2-3 episodes so I might be completely off . I just enjoy analyzing other people, which is why this show is such a hit for me. I still want to see what a "date" between Youngjoo and Do Gyun would look like just out of curiosity lol. Total awkwardness? Unexpected chemistry? Who knows?

It will be pretty embarrassing if I was wrong with all the sleuthing I did . But who knows, I might be wrong, especially if the girls end up choosing different gifts. When did Hyunwoo cut himself? I didn't notice that! Nice observation. I have a feeling that the ice-skating couple is Jaeho and Daeun...or maybe whoever is paired off with Gyubin? Both Jaeho and Gyubin seem like the type to be the ones to suggest an active activity like ice-skating (also because it seems like what a younger guy/guy with a youthful mentality would suggest for a date course). If our predictions end up being right, I'll be happy in a way because it's mixing up the pairings (although I would want to see Youngjoo interacting with Do Gyun!) so it's not to expected right from the start...but I do want to see Youngjoo on a date with Hyunwoo </3.