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iKON Yunhyeong

If he's gay, whoever is gay with him is a happy gay.

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Just one word: Siwon. He is Korea's number 1 "homophobe" but he's also G.A.Y af.

Shownu from 2:50 He is so obvious when Wonho dance. He's like: "Oh fuck" "That's shit's hot" "I'm not gonna look" "Ok, I'll look" "Oh fuck me in the ass" "Ok, I'm gonna dance now" He is so clearly checking Wonho out. And this face:

oh please. they are so gay that it isn't necessary to discuss it anymore. especially jisoo Btw have you seen jisoo's 'Strong Woman Do Bong Soon' yet? ;) it's also gay. lately everything in kpop became so gay. :D i love it <3

Well you sounded like for you the idea of two members of the same group be involved in romantic relationship is impossible. You deny all the evidnece pointing on that the "ships" can be real, because they are just "ships" and that the almighty SM have confirmed that Kai and Krystal are dating ten seconds after scandal was bring up because dating within a group is something that your imagination can't hold. And believe me, in closed society like kpop idol community, even dating within the same group can occurs THAT often. There are tons of evidence pointing out that Kai and Krystal's relationship was made up for SM purposes but you don't mention them. You saying that the only reasoning for possibilities of gay couples in kpop are fans saying that they are "real" and nothing else, which is a lie or unawareness. You are denying a possibility of gay relationship because a heterosexual one was officially established, despite all of the proofs that the gay one is real. It's not very pro-LGBTQ.

Thanks for expressing your opinion on the matter. I must disagree on one thing though. When you state that the only reasoning I get here is because "Chanbaek is real" and "Kaisoo is real" you must get this "reasoning" from someone who themselves doesn't know anything about this particular case, or you yourself are complete ignorant, which I don't believe you are. Many people have mentioned plethora of evidences and reasons, why those couple COULD be staged. And I said COULD because none of us know the truth, I don't know fo sure if it's fake neither you know for sure if it's real. But I know the whole reasoning, why some people believe the couple is real. I don't agree with it, I think this reasoning is just naive, but I respect it. If you don't know the whole reasoning of Kaisoo supporters, I advise you to go back a few dozens of pages here, or just simply go to Kaisoo thread. Then we'll be able to talk about the matter without prejudice. Ofcourse you may also mean that siply the idea itself, of two men dating within the same group or circle of friends is ridiculous and the only accepted form of relationship is a one petween man and woman. If so, then it's really immature and I wonder what are you doing in a thread about gay people in kpop.

First of all, I really appreciate your opinion. Second of all, there are few things I would like to disagree on. 1) That what's really interesting. Ofcourse SM could stage everything from the "pre-scandal" to the cctv pictures. SM is the biggest entertaiment company in Korea. The are really powerful. But no, REALLY powerful. They basicaly can do whatever they want. "pre-scandal rumours" can be very easily created by SM itself. You really don't think someone so huge as SM doesn't have their own internet "trolls". And by trolls I mean dozens or maybe hundreds of employees to kind of control what's going on on the Internet, and to explore trends and the kind of attitude fans have towards their idols. The scandal can't happened out of nowhere. Because that would be itself, very suspicious. And I would like to remind you that "pre-rumours" happened right after gay rumours popped out. To me, the "pre-rumours" was just SM preparing ground for the "news". And yes, ifans knew about that rumours too. 2) They have in fact, similar personalities, they have known each other for a long time and have trained/worked together for about 10 years. But just right now, when they both are completly busy, both of them are out of Korea half a year, they magically fell in love and decide to date when they can date like one day in the month. This is kind of bull-crap that maybe 11 years old girls believe, tho' I have my doubts before today 11 years olds are smarter than that. And a lot of people tend to forget about legit and confirmed beyond any doubt insider post from 2012 that clearly stated that at some point Kai and Krystal will be paired together, and will be announced to be dating. The same thing was for Baekhyun and Taeyeon. And guess what?! Ta-dah! So yeah, I think you didn't study every single reasons supposed to prove kaistal is fake. Or if you did you didn't do it quite fairly. Take care!

You're right I should not generalize, but I know from experience, that that's what a lot of gay people do. And do excuse me, but I said that TO ME it's concrete proof, because I do not see any other logical explanation. Unless you have one, then please share it with me.

A lot of people seems to forget that when Kyungsoo and Chanyeol sang Bruno Mars' "Nothin' On You" during live radio show, infamous slip happened, and Kyungsoo sang "boy" instead of "girl", which was in orginal lyrics. Some people was trying to made it look like he sung "boy" like in "oh boy!" which doesn't make any sense. The oryginal lyrics was: If there's something I'm not doing, girl I'm trying. The only logical explanation is that when he was practicing this song for the broadcast, he was changing all "girls" in the song into "boys", because he's gay, and correct me if I'm wrong but that's what gay people do when singing to themselves, so the song feel more honest. To me this slip was the ultimate proof that Kyungsoo is pure gay. It's just so obvious after that. And look at their reaction. After that Chanyeol is singing with him to make sure he won't do it again.

Lets also don't forget this Manager was touching Kai's hair and when Kyungsoo spotted it Jongin moves away The same manager hit Kai when he touched Soo

I absolutely agree with you, but the thing is even with obvious moments that shows their true selves some people will say it's just a "delusion". hmmmmm.... no.

Even if Kaisoo will give each other blowjobs on the stage, in front of ten thousand fans, some people will say it's just blowing stuff out of proportions. No pun intended.

First of all thank you for your analysis. In most cases I agree except for three. I think Chanyeol isn't straight at all. I don't think he is gay-gay but he can easily be attracted to men too. Also Yixing, even with his homophobic coments, I think isn't 100% straight. I think he wouldn't mind. It's like with Siwon. Supposedly straight and homophobic but not at all. Except Siwon is so gay. And finnaly Kyungsoo. I'm hardcore Kyungsoo's stan since day of their debut. And since begining for me he is pure gay. First of all the alleged girlfriend from the interviews. He have changed version of his "relationship" about 3 times. In every intervew it was different. Once he was clingy and that's why she left him. The other time he said she have cheated on him and it was sad love. Then he said it was the greatest love and he was very happy. During Japanese interview they asked him have he had first love like Soo-ok, he said no. In other interview he said that D.O singer and Do Kyungsoo the actor aren't him, those are only roles he plays and only he knows who real Kyungsoo is. And lets not forget that this was the time when gay rumours popped out. So I think he simply fabricated the whole story about his "girlfriend" for the "Unforgettable" promotions. About the radio shows. First of all 99% of them are all scripted. Btw you can tell how nervous he is during this one. And not only here. There were few radio interviews with EXO, and they asked them about their ideal types for example, Kyungsoo always seems very unconfortable. Here Chen and Baekhyun seems to know the uestion before it came out. And they have prepared answer. Also for some time now, I think Kyungsoo tries to hin his real self throuout interviews and actions. Plus ofcourse members reactions whenever Kaisoo happens. Have you notticed? How they are trying to separate them all the time? And I'm just so pissed of everytime when someone says: he so manly so he can't be gay. Or when someone determine someone sexuality on whether he/she are touchy with members or so. You don't have be feminine or touching your members crotches to be gay. So yeah, in my oppinion Kyungsoo is simply gay, and I came to terms with it.

Guys, what about Chanyeol fingering Suho?

SJ: Siwon - gay Donghae - gay Eunhyuk - bi Henry - bi Infinite: Hoya - gay for 100% L - gay for 100% Woohyun - gay Sungyeol - gay Sungjong - gay BtoB: Minhyuk - gay Sungjae - gay Ilhoon - bi or gay Paniel - bi Hyunsik - bi and I think he is very close to Minhyuk Got7: JB & Jr. - gay and also a couple Jackson - gay 2PM: Nichkhun - gay for 100%, and I absolutely do not believe in this "dating Tiffany" bullshit. Junho - gay Jun.K - bi BEAST: Junhyung - gay for 100% Kikwang - gay Dongwoon - gay EXO: For me everyone. I thing EXO is the gayest bband in whole Korea Suho: at last bi Baekhyun: gay, and as in Nichkhun case, I completly do not buy story about Taeyeon. Chanyeol: probably bi and also a couple with Baekhyun D.O.: gay Kai: gay for 100% also a couple with D.O. Sehun: coment is unnecessary Xiumin: bi Luhan: bi Kris: bi Lay: gay for 100% Chen: gay Tao: also coment is unnecessary Actors: Kim Woo Bin: gay Lee Jong Suk: gay also a couple with Kim Woo Bin. I think they are most likely a couple in real life. And please, do keep in mind that korean entertainment companies will do everything to convince people that there is no even single gay/bi person in the industry. And remember that idols are obliged to do everything that companies requires to do. If someone tells you: "we'll announce, that you are a couple", you have to do it. It obviously looks better than announcement about someone being gay. it's sad, but it is the reality.

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