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I wondered too he should have make it like 5.bottom 4.below mid, 3.mid 2.above mid. 1.Top~Ok, so in the OP, Suga in mid tier; while G Dragon, CL, and a bunch of other mediocre rappers are top tier or at his supposed level(mid tier). I don't mean to be an ass but this kind of makes me question this topic's credibility, even if tastes vary.
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A pink naeun is really pretty~
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I agree with the most part but vocal tone is more than that I write my own rap but it is not a high factor. .. lyricism is like 10% while freestyle 15% tone 25% delivery 25% flow 25% ..Shame on me for only discovering this thread now.

Lots of interesting insights here! I'll share a few things about me first before I give my opinions.
I'm from the Philippines and therefore mostly listen to Philippine rap/hiphop music. I sometimes listen to popular American and British rappers, but that's about it. I still haven't listened to k-hiphop yet. As for battle rap, I usually only watch FlipTop battles (Philippines). Occasionally, I'll watch some of the popular KOTD and URL battles. Gloc 9 is my favorite rapper and one my favorite musicians/artists of all time
Glory to the king.Anyway, here's the breakdown of my personal criteria for judging rappers' abilities:
85% = Lyrics/Flow
I noticed that for a rap thread, there seems to be very little discussion about lyricism, which for me, is the very core of rap. The poetic genius of some of the better rappers out there can put some literary icons to shame. Also, to me, this is the least subjective element of rap, which is why I mainly use this as the basis. Anyone would agree that someone with a strong grasp of language, has an extensive vocabulary, and exhibits the creative use of literary devices eclipses someone who can barely come up with a half-coherent sentence. Rhyme scheme and intonation are just a little bit more subjective. Still, the average 6th grader would know that aabbaabbaabb is a very basic pattern.
Of course, this raises a problem when you listen to foreign rappers: you have no clue what they're saying. And even if you are able to get hold of a translation, a lot of the wordplay and complexity lost in translation. Also, one of the main things I've noticed from listening to American and Philippine rap music is that the dynamics of rap changes because of the differences in the way the languages are structured. For example, due to the very few vowel sounds in the Filipino language (there are only 5), sentences and phrases just naturally rhyme without the speaker even trying. "Bababa ka ba?" is an actual sentence
That's why rhyme isn't given the same weight as lyrical content in Filipino rap as it is in English rap. Verses that rhyme well are just harder to write in English. Alliteration also becomes super easy in Filipino because of the uncomplicated consonants.So yeah, all of those reasons are why I have some reservations about judging idol rappers too quickly. I don't understand Korean. I need time to really dissect their lyrics.
14.99% = Delivery - This is veeeeery subjective for me, and it really depends on the song. I think more often than not, I prefer a more mellow and smooth delivery than an intense and emotional one. I prefer listening to happier songs anyway (I'm a girl, sue me). I don't have much to add here, OP explained it very well

.01% = Vocal Tone - To this day, I still haven't heard a rapper whose voice was just too damn irritating for me to even listen to their song. Maybe I'm just lucky? I would actually love to hear some examples of rappers with excruciatingly terrible voices

Lastly, is this thread exclusively for discussing korean rappers? Because I'm dying to share the glory of Philippine rap music with all of you. Hey, it's still Asian, right?

THE op has stated and I agree with him is that vocal tone is so tricky ...how can I judge a rapper I haven't heard his vocal tone because easily he isn't a singer so this is hard ..tbh vocal tone is the hardest thing I can judge a rapper ...rappers like hyunA changes her vocal sometimes in the slow verses .,~
I agree with some judges but I srsly cannot believe ailee or hyolin is mid tier rapper and suga in the same level with them not that I look down on them but that guy can free style and writes his Verse.....he might not the best at one of the techniques but in 3 of them all he is outStanding in mixing them .
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I find that Chinese girl the most beautiful out of miss A~
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I don't think so…(as even she's my BIAS) I prefer QRI will remain the LEADER position more (or it will back to Eunjung or Soyeon).
Jiyeon will still the maknae (and even she had grow up now) and have the Leadership potential…that's still TOO AWKWARD.
Unfortunately (even in 2009) after Jiae & Jiwon left T-ara…there are rumors that Jiyeon will going to be the Leader (you can find it in Soompi forums) BUT still in ENDED to Eunjung…'cause MAKNAE can't still command her UNNIES (without feeling awkward) even she will had the power to Lead.
But then (if they will still continue the Timeline of T-ara Leadership) I still okay for it…my good luck then to our precious maknae (but I'm worried 'cause it may be 'cause more haters again to her)
Seo is snsd tts leader. ...just saying~
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Pink isn't always related to being feminine~
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It is 2015 and I still don't get the hype over my love You who came from the star~ I watched liked but why it became a hit.
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^ Dang they're just jumping all over the chart.
Poor baby Ji. ;.;

Poor her...old photo but I couldn't ...so pretty~
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Don't let them get under your skin~good luck!
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But it gets annoying when they keep doing it and it's hard to ignore
Let them Be...don't u see older fans get that thing it is crazies not us...none of my business I won't reply to these threads anymore and u see I haven't touched that threads..their comments , upvotes don't concern me ...I focus on the l.u.v always I don't give a damn about crazy kpop fans after all if a kpop fan is crazy there is one in another believe me if we don't give them a reaction it will become old topic and even some non fans will come to defend it when they will see thatmature attitude~
Look at vips they have immature fans but they just don't acknowledge them ppl think they are chill becuz they just don't care and mind their business~ :$
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Just ignore ! If they want to generalize let them. ... why give them a reaction~
look at a pink fandom they got hate until it buried because easily that fandom don't feed them and don't reply let's all agree That no exo l ever reply at thesethreadds because it doesn't concern us because we aren't those crazies rt?
if no exo l actually takes care and defend and all ignore that means really out of our business and not us so why would we care about the negative attitude? all girls get that from crazy k fangirls and worse...their fandoms are as bad too they just don't admit so they put it on the most popular~ easy move on.
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Has there been conformation that she will or are we just assuming she's staying queen b? Not complaining about her being leader as it's pretty irrelevant to me. Does that mean she's had the longest time as leader?
I'm surprised she wasn't leader earlier on like after Hyomin when they hit it big and Jiyeon was one of the it girls. Maybe for the next comeback it'll switch again. I wonder after Jiyeon who will be leader again and whether the leader system will stop.
;( I wish it will continue~
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Qrisus will stay as the leader for 2015, but yeah I would LOVE an EJ solo <33
Won't we ever see jiyeon as a leader

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I'm betting some of these solo promotions and such will include some subunit/solo songs from some of the members. They never stay too long between song releases and I'm not sure if they'd be able to just MC/act/do variety right off the bat without getting some more exposure.
I wish *__* #eunjungsolo2k15 #jiyeon4leader2k15 ;__;
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Which member from Exo u wish him to get a solo?
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Black cat manga >> its anime
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Mblaq has one of the great kpop music~
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Soo young in my opinion is the most beautiful member~
In snsd*
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Digimon tamers is the best season in my opinion~
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OMG YOU'RE SIGNATURE.
Thanks ...it is messy tho the colors aren't fit ~
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Sorry we can't provide smaller sized alternates. :( You could try downloading it from YouTube in 480p or lower but viewing pleasure may be completely ruined: http://keepvid.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzB3S__KPhzA
Thank you *__* :*
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maybe you could go to a place with wifi like mcdonalds if they provide it where you liveeat very slowly
I'm a resident on coffee shops and they have wifi I study usually there but tbh if I go these I might search about anything but kpop I don't feel comfortable watching kpop or anything needs a reaction outside lolz~
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Dec 12 fan meet subs. Pretty fun but close to two hours so best for a movie night haha.
I Wish I can watch this~ :/ I run out of my 3g net packages~
:'( ;(
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that's what I meant...
Kogami isn't in season 2. He appears in Akane's mind when she argues with herself. i guess a cameo counts? He's not in 99% of the show lololol
What that makes me remember black cat....I'm still not over saya death then oh she is in his memories ...not over it yet ..-__-
But he is alive at least~ not appearing when he used to be one of the coolest chars ;( I liked the old team but basically they lost 3 of them ...but does it have the same coolness I heard akane becomes a badass I'll watch it if she developed that much~


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Do u think he is better than the old one,at least a little better~
They used to work on cold in bad conditions so maybe he would treat them better in this area. :/