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  1. divine is jessica farewell song

    they even made her sing "we are always one"

    so that whenever she listen to the song someday when she is no longer snsd member ,

    she will always be remind that it's her own voice who sang "we are always one", reminder about her bond with ot8

     

     

    How do you even know if Jessica missed all the preparations?

     

    I guess we're all just making assumptions, but it's ironic to see people making Jessica the sole villain, when the other side isn't innocent either.

    i believe the other side are innocent

    first

    they don't have power to kick jessica out , SM is the one who has it

     

    second

    they don't have reason to kick jessica if jessica didn't made it by herself

     

    jessica throw them under the bus with that weibo statement but the other 8 are still silence . , to protect jessica's image and reputation

     

    after effect

    -the other 8 are mess, still not ready to replace her lines and dance performance for china fanmeet and SM town

    this proving that they are not ready to lost jessica. they didn't expect it..it's beyond their power to kick her out

     

    -they were crying but can't say why , taeyeon said sorry many times , i think it's not because they kicked jessica , but because they can't stop their sisters went insane with her too ambitious business

     

    if there is someone to blame, then it might be hyoyeon.. because jessica befriended with TK through her.

    TK blows fresh air for jessica's dream while actually it was a bad breath

    using SNSD brand image for her business, to gain attention and buyer probably are violation for her contract

     

    conclusion :

    there is no way both SM and SNSD willing to take on heavy damage ( stock price, fandom splited , reputation damage,, OT9 + soshibond damage , and most important is.. exiled one of their own sisters for so many years )

    if jessica didn't do something crossed the lines here

     

    if we , fans are hurting and sad because we are losing jessica.. then what about the other 8 who has been with her for many years through joy and suffering together ?

     

     

    so is jessica got all the blame here ?? nope.. she is just innocent, have a big dream.. and have a snake manipulating her without considering or care about her position in snsd / sm nor her fans, us.. a

     

    a good boyfriend should remind her that she still has fans to take care of, it would be wise not to endanger your position in snsd / not to violate your contract just because you want to do a big business

    this once again proving that forehead is a prick..what he wanted too is making money + connection but not marrying her just like when he played with gillian chung heart

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  2. Can you just stop spreading all these 'news' and information' from twitter and all?

    You aren't helping , all you do is constantly put focus on this topic and confuse fans and add more drama.  JUST STOP please.

     

    Can you just stop spreading all these 'news' and information' from twitter and all?

    You aren't helping , all you do is constantly put focus on this topic and confuse fans and add more drama.  JUST STOP please.

    why are you so pressed ? 

    everyone doing the same and twitter isn't 100 % unreliable.

    remember we all bashing oniontaker because he said someone might leave snsd, and in the end he was right

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  3. Can you just stop spreading all these 'news' and information' from twitter and all?

    You aren't helping , all you do is constantly put focus on this topic and confuse fans and add more drama.  JUST STOP please.

     

    Can you just stop spreading all these 'news' and information' from twitter and all?

    You aren't helping , all you do is constantly put focus on this topic and confuse fans and add more drama.  JUST STOP please.

    why are you so pressed ? 

    everyone doing the same and twitter isn't 100 % unreliable.

    remember we all bashing oniontaker because he said someone might leave snsd, and in the end he was right

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  4. I saw bitches bashing taeyeon again because she said she want TTS to have a solo concert.

     

    First, she said this almost 2 weeks ago on YHY pre recorded sketchbook before jessica's mess

     

    Second. They are the member who still has strong passion to perform

     

    Sooyoung, yuri and yoona will become actress

    Hyoyeon will work behind the scene as SM choreographer

    Sunny will be variety dol

    Jessica wants to be a business women but she went too far this time

     

    TTS subunit creation is created with all member agreement, every member support this subunit

     

    Those bitches who bash taeyeon isn't even a sone, they know nothing

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  5. I really don't like how people blamed this matter on OT8. When I saw jessica throw them first under the bus, and play the victim card ASAP. I don't blame jessica, the girl is blunt,honest, innocent, pure and sometimes stupid.TK probably play a big part of all this mess

     

    Now I know why hyoyeon looks like that in incheon airport 29th morning. Clenching her fist, pissed off. She feels guilty because she is the one who make jessica befriended with Tyler kwon

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  6. I saw this conversation on twitter

     

    - SNSD told Jessica to come back at least til September 28 to practice for the fanmeet tour which includes 10 songs and if she"

     

    - does not come back, they would not let her to work with SNSD. since Jessica has missed a whole practices for the fanmeet but"

     

    - Jessica came to Korea the day when fanmeet is. so it's hard to say SNSD kicked Jessica off. she chose that."

     

    - Jessica left for NY while SNSD and she discussed about the future of SNSD. Jessica did not contact SNSD at all and said SNSD to"

     

    -contact her only through official statement."

     

    -yeah i read your rt of ggoh and just wanted to say that snsd did not kick jessica out. it was jessica who left snsd."

     

    Jessica was the first to play victim card, don't know if its really her or tyler kwon PR. But if that conversation are true. Then its jessica who bertray those 8 not the other way around

     

    The fact that the other 8 are still silence, proving that they love jessica and willing to protect her image. Couple of words from them can be the last nail for jessica's coffin, destroyed jessica until her last pieces.destroy her image, reputation, business, and possibility to go back to snsd.

     

    Taeyeon apologizing at TTS fansign, is not because they kick jessica out, but because they can't stop their lost sister went insane and too overly ambitious.

     

    putting 40M USD for just a pair of sunglassess is insane. Different than ok taecyeon or yesung private business

     

    I really hope jessica can find the light, finding her way back from darkness . She has to realize that there is nothing more precious in the world for her other than her 8 sisters and us, sone , her fans.

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  7. Maybe ... maybe not. 

    Those are only your assumptions, neither of us knows what really happened between them so we can't blame anyone at this point.

    I can't imagine any " big mistake " that forces them to kick her out. It's just a matter of money in my opinion.

    i think this is similar , explain my thought better 

    http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/106542-another-possible-reason-for-jessicas-ejection-from-snsd/page-2&do=findComment&comment=5216619

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  8. we have same thought..

     

    It is true that is very cruel for someone blocking other dreams. But lets not forget that in team there are individual dreams and group dreams. You have your own dream, and u must expect that your friend will support your dream, but everyone have their own dream to, and your dream is not your friend's dream, your dream can clash each other (individual or group). So sometimes we have to set our priorities. human have selfish behavior, if one member to busy with their own dream, just a matter of time they will forget their groups dream.

     

    Asumme that if jessica actually priorities blanc than SNSD, and SM make it slide and being too lenient to jessica, it might inluence other 8 to continue jessica path and start their own business (as being actrees and singer u have to share profit with SM and not last long but opening a business will be there until u die and not share profit with SM). Is not that other 8 not capable to open business, they just restrain it in order to keep snsd alive.

     

    Imagine if 9 women managing their own business, how on earth to manage their schedule so they not clash each other??? Its super difficult to assembly 9 person to practice and perform together.

     

    It would be like JYJ, ss501, and bigbang case when they need 463757289 years just to make group comeback and im sure fans will be pissed of, sone are impatient and even cant endure if snsd only have 1 month promotion per year, so how it will benefit SNSD. And if every member of snsd have establish business do you think they bother to promote with snsd again??? (Individual income without cut to SM vs share income with 9 person and SM).

     

    That why taeyeon means of protecting SNSD, if SM give free pass to jessica, they afraid if other member will follow jessica path, they busy with their on business until they not realize that their will start neglecting their group and SNSD will be disband for sure. Same like how we work on the group for presentation, if we see one of them is free rider because they to busy with their personal affair, we might be pissed off, but the bigger problem will arise when people letting this person free, other might thought "if she allow to do whatever she want, why im not doing the same???" "fuck with groups presentation, i want to do some part time job to make money, let my other member make the presentation, i will just come on presentation..!!"

     

    Jessica is not wrong, especially when she just pursue her dream, but u cant expect everything have to go in your way. especially when u have other 8 member who has their own perspective (and dream) than you

     

     

    you are adult enough to think of this perpective 

    our fellow sone , and fandom are still young.. all they think and care is only OT9 !!. Soshibond !!! bla3 and many sentimental things

     

    i don't doubt their friendship

    i don't doubt their soshibond

    i follow them for 6 years to make sure that 

    their bond and friendship are genuine and real  

     

    but world is not that simple, and we don't live in heaven where everything is peaceful and there is no clash of interest

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  9. I know something about the business world as well , I'm 24 and I'm an engineer so I know how cruel it is as you said.

    I absolutely agree with you ... Jessica was kicked out because SM can't benefit from her BLANC business, but what I don't understand is why they agreed to let her start it from the beginning ?

     

     

     

     

    jessica might did something crossed the SM line between 16-29th when she went to USA

    SM knew this since they have "detective" everywhere and decide to kick her out before she can damage them...

     

    may i remind you that SM lost 65M USD for their stock price + SNSD reputation tarnished.. there is no way SM didn't calculated this incoming impact.. and why they are still willing to take those huge damage if jessica wasn't really doing something endangering them ??  jessica probably didn't realize how bad is it what she is going to do since she probably being manipulated and still innocent / newbie in business world

     

    now you know what is my prediction next ? jessica will fight her way back to snsd. or tyler want her to do it. she need those name. she need SNSD brand name attached to her name once again for her ongoing business

    i am not telling that she is the snake her. no, she is really innocent and newbie .. tyler is the snake, jessica is his tools

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  10.  

    Man I'm done. Talk to me when you can already think and talk logically old man. And please stop contradicting yourself.

     

    couple of years later you will know i was right. 

    PM me when that time comes

    you will not understand anything what i said if you still don't have enough experience about how this world works and still innocent , that is why i know you must be under 21

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  11. Well Jessica is 25 too so I guess she's old enough to know what's best for her, she can't be an idol for her entire life, you can't blame her for wanting to start her own busines because unlike the others memebrs who may have a singing or acting career later, Jessica know she can't since her voice is not that special and her acting skills are so-so ...

    And about using SNSD's name, I think the other members are using it too to get castes in dramas, movies, etc (we all know there are better actresses and singers out there so they only get those offers because they're part of GG)... 

    now let me ask you why other member got a different treatment than her ? 

    why even sulli , is still being kept in fx ? 

     

    because they get casted by SM

    so the money goes to SM too

     

    jessica isn't .. her business is big ,, involving tons of money , therefore, tons of risk as well

     

    yes jessica is 25.. 25 is not young.. but still not old enough to know how cruel the business world is

    i am graduated as bachelor in economy..already worked in some company , has couple of dispute with my company before because they told to do some tax evasion procedure and i reject it.. have couple of problem too with my other company since i also worked as their internal audit

     

    jessica's problem is with business not with snsd member , now i am imagining , if only we have a time machine and have enough power, i want us to persuade her join TTS subunit , i am pretty sure this scandal would not happen

     

     

    SM is a company and SNSD is their employee who work for that company 

     

    trust me , i know this shit business world works more than some people here who don't 

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  12. Will you please just stop? Did Jessica ever use SNSD's name when promoting BLANC? NO. Abandon her business for SNSD? She can't because she was already under contract. Plus,the members and the company already gave their blessings but then something went down that we will never know that caused the whole fallout. Taeyeon ignoring Jessica? Oh please. This has been going on for several years now. Jessica is in her mid-20s. Is it such a sin for her to pursue other things after dedicating 15 years of her life to SNSD?

    let me guess

    you are under 21  right ?

     

     

    first thing first

    never see this matter as personal matter, friendship matter, or something like 15 years dedication.. that's an innocent kid thought

     

    all this mess is about business , money and brand image

     

     

    she don't use snsd name to promote blanc..BUT she gains investor, gain a lot of money using SNSD name

     

    investor would not come if they don't get convinced with her name as girls generation

    and the money she gains worth $40M , cause she want the business to be global

    blanc will never get any investor if she isn't SNSD member

     

     

    taeyeon is basically love her so much .. ignoring her in Public doesn't mean she dont love her.. my ultimate bias is taeyeon , i have been following her around until maybe i can get a glimpse of her personality

     

    something went down probably is when she went to USA before 29th , china fanmeet.. there must be something she did that really cross the line this time until SM decided to kick her so sudden.. SM is a big company , they have a "detective" you know , how they can always control their trainee and have talent scouter around the world

     

    why did you think they only exiled her out from SNSD, but not From SM ? 

    because she already renew the contract with SM and by kicking her out from SNSD , SM already done their purpose..if SM kick her out to from the company , jessica can sue them

     

    to strip away SNSD Jessica Jung brand name and image so that she can't use it for her business , gaining tons of investor .. more investor = more money 

    more money = more RISK.. and endanger SNSD name in the future with something beyond our imagination

    i don't really know how business world works since i am still inexperience.. but at least i am graduated in economic majors

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  13. I think so too, it just makes no sense to me that this years of friendship doesn’t mean anything to them, and I thought Jessica would be smart enough to know that it was SM who made them do what they did but I guess she’s just so mad at them right now to think reasonably. :unsure:

    She may be angry because she might have stood against SM if she was in their shoes but she can do it because she would still be ok if SM kicked her out since she has her business, but if the others were kicked out they’ll lose everything since they don’t have a back-up plan …

    I’m not a sone, I only like Jessica cause she’s my bias’ sister, so I’ll keep supporting her and I hope you guys would still support the 8 others as well.

    real sone support them both , SNSD8 and jessica without choosing side

    if they realize , both side are victim.. both , not just jessica 

     

    there is no way they are happy kicking someone who already be with them for 10 - 15 years through so many joy and hardship

    even bad person  , a killers, robber or else will still feel sad when they lost their long time partners

     

    i hate seeing non sone accused that their relationship is fake , their soshibond is fake.. who are they to judge when they never even follow the girls ? 

     

    jessica drew the victim card first , maybe under tyler kwon influence .. i am not blaming her, the girl is so innocent and blunt. she must be really sad to be kicked out, and typed that message first before anyone can stop her and without any second thought. .. but she didn't realize that she can endanger snsd name with her business for the first place

    she said she can manage and still give time for snsd but she maybe didn't realize that her brand name  snsd are being used for private business .business that don't have any relation with entertainment industry

     

    sulli neglect every Fx activity but SM still keep her 

    if only she never started blanc.. never met tyler kwon.. jessica will never get kicked out

     

    to be honest , innocent and stupid is not that faraway ..

     

    i am 25 years old. most of my fellow sone are still 15-20.. they don't know how cruel the world can be... they don't know that SNSD , is not only idol.. they are also an employee. SM employee.

    and when you are still an employee, you will still have responsibility for the company who worked you 

     

    that's why some of sone are blaming each other.. some blame ot8 and the other blame jessica, they can't see the real problem is.. business... money... image.. is the real problem.. not relationship or their friendship

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  14. when i heard taeyeon said  : all i/we wanted is to protect SNSD

     

    there is 2 possibility 

    -Jessica did something cross the line that can endanger SNSD as group in the future so the member was forced to kick her

     

    -SM force SNSD member to kick her , threat them that if they didn't want to vote , SNSD will be no more, less activity .etc

     

    i bet my money for first possibility 

     

    Jessica said they kick them out without any "justifiable reason".. so what exactly is that reason ?

     

    i still think SM kick her because Jessica use SNSD name to expand her business.so with kicking her out from SNSD ,she can't use that name anymore

    for sone, jessica jung sooyeon is still SNSD jessica jung, but officially she can't use snsd name again 

     

    Jessica jung sooyeon will worth 100 times more if she puts SNSD in front of her name

    it's unfair of course, she was SNSD member for so many years and help them , contributed greatly to their success today

     

    tyler kwon is the culprit who try to gain advantage using SNSD name ( they said tyler gaining investor using snsd brand name via jessica ) this must be  violation for her contract .. brand name isn't something funny to play with 

     

    i think the only way for jessica to be back to snsd is if she abandon her business cause her business was build and grow because she used SNSD brand name and then cut her relation/contact with tyler kwon

     

     

    which is i am not sure jessica will abandon it except she can prove her love for snsd like she always said in her statement

     

    maybe this is also why taeyeon start to dislike her../ ignore her , because jessica can't focus her self more for snsd

    ..of course everyone can have , build their own future outside the group , but she will not tolerate it if it can damage snsd, yoona , sooyoung , yuri project themself as future actress,, sunny in variety, hyoyeon as dancer/  choreo and TTS continue as performer. it's all related to entertainment industry , which still has the purpose of SNSD , they are born as public figure, as entertainer..

     

    what jessica will do is really different than other.. she want to build her own ( not related to entertainment )  company using SNSD name. 

     

    you know victoria beckham ? she also develop her clothing lines.. BUT , after spice girls stop all their activity ( only reunited sometimes ) jessica renew 3 years more contract to use SNSD as tools to develop her own business.

     

    so jessica are to blame ? not really .. she dreams to have her own fashion line and that Forehead use her desire for his advantage.. brainwashed her.  maybe taeyeon start to ignorejessica when jessica start her relation with tyler kwon..

    tyler kwon probably only her business partner..taeyeon is fine if jessica want to have a boyfriend , everyone can have boyfriend including her. but she would not like if that boyfriend use her member and that member is foolish enough to be used

     

     

     

    i believe taeyeon is the guardian of snsd, the best leader. she put snsd as group , as brand , as individual , as future beyond anything else and she sacrifice herself to be hated by a lot of people after making statement on TTS fansign yesterday , she basically direct all hate to her, from haters/ public and jessica's stan

    8 member kick her out , but she is the one who gets all the blame right ? especially because of her leader position, some sone/jessica stan hate her and saying she didn't deserve to be leader because she can't keep jessica in instead kicking her out. 

     

     

    never accused taeyeon as sly fox, she is the one who suffer the most these day 

    then jessica is the wrong side ? no ,she is just innocent , innocent girl who live in this wretched world

    deep inside, every member including taeyeon are still loving jessica,they love her so much until it hurts really bad

     

     

    i will not post my thought outside snsd thread because it's useless.. there is so many non sones there who will never understand my thought , they never follow the girls to know what is the meaning of soshibond or ot9

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  15. what show is this from? 

    looks like from AAGG

     

    she wrote GG on sand , wiped out by water and she try it again for the second time and success

     

    when i see that picture. i have little bit of hope that this is probably already destined as her fate. 

     

    she would get out from GG and comeback again someday

     

    who would ever expect her to get kicked from SNSD ? is there any sone here who ever expect OT8 ?

     

    i expect them to date, i expect them to marry , i expect them do have a kids , hiatus and disband .. but never i expect OT8

     

    if she can get exiled out without anyone expecting it , then she can comeback too 

     

    let's pray for it to happen 

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