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Because doing so is simply not practical. Economic theories only apply in certain situations but you have to look at the overall situation. It is not only a matter of maximizing profits by only focusing on one market with the given investment.
The amount of money that the company is able to obtain while promoting in Japan is also limited. More revenue is earned through tours as opposed to album sales. And you cannot simply just have tours all year long. Apink also do not have other individual schedules in Japan as their recognition in Japan is limited because kpop is a niche market in Japan. The kpop wave have already died down in Japan but a niche market for it still exist. The prospects of simply just focusing only on the Japanese market is thus not practical in the long run and very risky. But Japanese promotions is still a good way to generate income.
Which is why Apink promotes in Korea where there is better development prospects and also Japan. It is to expand the market which is more practical in ensuring a long career in the long run. Which is why don't put all your eggs in one basket, it is too risky and you could lose everything.
Thank you for answering my question constructively, as opposed to others that did not.
That has been my stance. For Apink to ensure a long career, they must need to promote in Korea. I do not think they can afford another 1 year Korean hiatus.
There is much urgency of a Korean comeback to keep their momentum going, which others call that as "being whiny" when they fail to see the distinction between the short run and the long run
More frequent Korean comeback (which has been the basis of this whole discussion) + Japanese promotion should seal the deal. What do you think, Snowy?
The 1 year and 2 months hiatus was the example of putting all the eggs in one basket. Plan A was too focused in Japan, earning every bit that they can for the short run, while abandoning the Korean fanbase that primarily determines their career span
If that is called being excessively whiny, then I do not know what to say. It really is not rocket science.
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I completely understand all of the opinions here, each has its point. But the thing is Japan promotions can be beneficial to a group as long as they maintain their status in korea, their homeland. The sole reason for promoting in japan is money. But sadly, Apink didn’t maintained their momentum in korea. Many fans went to much younger and newly debut groups. They were gone for too long. Ofcourse, Japan is not the only reason why they weren’t able to comeback for a year; and its the selection of title track. Now, I am aware that apink was very particular with the music they wanted to release. But whose job is to look for producers? Its Plan A. If the company was very eager, they could have found the right song on time; and for crying out loud they have an in house producer. Just imagine how lazy plan a was it took them one year to find that one song. Plan A is not the worst but they are bad at managing their own artists. The girls barely have CF deals now. Not to mention Eunji’s osts, with a voice like hers a company with the right mind would have given her a dozen osts by now. If Plan A is so great they wouldn’t have to fully rely on the money apink earned in japan.
So when Apink came back in korea, the response is kind of “mediocre.†They didn’t won any trophies with Only One. They still haven’t debuted #1 in melon since debut. They weren’t invited on award shows. Album sales was low compared to their previous sales. Please be honest and i don’t need those humble crap, it was disappointing right? This is the reason why many pandas hate the fact that apink is still promoting in japan. Instead of preparing for the japan market, they could be preparing for kor comeback instead (they are still a korean group at the end of the day). That’s why we want apink to comeback faster in korea, to take back their status and attract new fans. Now if you want apink to just stay in their position and thinks that all of this is just too ambitious, I can’t argue with you. I want the best for apink because as a fan that’s the only way we can repay them and make them feel that there are still a lot of people supporting them. I want them to have the feeling of reward. Now that won’t happen if the panda population keeps on dropping because of the lack of promotions.
P.S. Im a lurker here. I just really wanted to get this rant out of my system. Being a Panda right from the beginning, I’m just really disappointed of what has become of Acube
On top of that, it is important to remember Apink is a Korean product in Japan. Without comeback, they are empty shells and they won't last long in Japan too.
What are they going to sell in Japan without a Korean comeback? The same album over and over again?
Either give up the Korean market already and fully migrate Apinj to Japan, or start making their Korean comeback more frequent, so that they can use their Korean comeback as an anchor to sell even better in Japan.
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There is no point on explaining our logic when you've already set your mind to one thing, which is Japan promotions ruin Apink. We've tried to explained to you many times yet you choose to only accept your own logic on things. If you still have any problem with how Plan A manages Apink especially in Japan go contact them yourselves. Clearly you don't seem to listen to any of us here trying our best to explain how things work. Why would they give up Korean comeback even when they are making less than what they are getting in Japan? It seems you don't know much about how Kpop groups work and their Japanese promotions. I suggest you study it first before arguing here. Just like as I said before if you still have any problems with Plan A contact them yourselves because we don't have time to be explaining these kind of reasonings to you who seems to have already set his/her mind.
I've reiterated 10 fucking times and all of you have failed to answer this simple question:What is the point of not giving up their Korean comeback if Japan is where all the money is?Do I have to dumb it down further for you?If you have fucking $100 dollar to invest in two stocks. A $50 dollar investment in Stock A gives a $150 return, and Stock B gives a $400 return. Why wouldn't anyone fully give up Stock A (the Korean market), and go for Stock B (the Japanese market)?Splitting half of your investment into both stocks would only yield you $550. While fully investing in Stock B yields a $800 return.
Fucking goodness.And what is your expertise to justify my lack of knowledge when you are the one who is failing to understand a simple economic question.-
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Stop contradicting yourself. You said earlier that Japanese promotions matters more than Korean promotions. You said that is because they earn little profit. We are talking about th Japanese and Korean market, not the international market.let's see..
1. cuz apink is a kpop group? most of the Ipandas(including JPandas) got into apink through kpop...
kpop is the ladder to their international market...why would they throw that away??
2. apink has all korean members...would they be happy spending all their time in japan?
what benefit does planA get pissing off all the members?
and where the hell did any1 say japan 1st?????????????????????????????????
Regarding to your second point, it seems to me you fail to think logically. Money does all the talk. When there's a fortune that can be earned in Japan, common sense tells you to go there. Business is business; their end in goal, and Plan A's too, is to go with whichever decision that maximizes their profit - that is to promote in Japan. Don't mix emotions with business; it does not work.
On a personal note, you wouldn't put your point 1 and point 2 as arguments on a business or economics essay your teacher tells you to write, right?
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What does the 1 year and 2 months hiatus tell you? It's obvious the status quo is they care about the Japanese market.Because I just told you, they will have to share the profit regarding Japanese promotions. Whether it's more profitable or not, there will be a percentage that doesn't go to them. Also, why not have the best of both worlds? You get the profit from Japan and Korea. Like what Snowy_Field said, Japanese promotions are much shorter anyway so why not do both? It doesn't have to be one or the other.
They are Korean after all, in no doubt that they will put Korea first.
If you still don't understand how Plan A can cut all the Korean promotions, and leverage the expenditure from Korean promotions into the Japanese market, the logic here is that way they will maximize their profit. If we go about the popular assumption, here in this thread, that the Korean market earns little, it is not about having the best of both worlds.
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But don't forget what they make in Japan is far more profitable than that of Korea.I wouldn't say it jeopardises them, I mean, look at Eunji getting an OST and Naeun getting a CF recently. It's not like they haven't had any comebacks either. Look at Only One and Cause You're My Star.
For Plan A, it's simple. Their shares in Japan are split with various other companies. Universal, J-Rock... whereas in Korea, what they make is theirs.
So why bother investing into the Korean promotions just for the charitable sake of keeping the loyal fans on IV drip?
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Because they're still a Korean group and that they'll feel a sense of duty for their Korean fans who wait for them too? And besides, they have their own individual schedules too and all that. It doesn't have to be a comeback to make money either. There's CFs, shows, acting, etc...
By the way, when did sleepyk say that? Must have missed it or something if he/she did.
Besides, Japanese promotion is normal. It's not like Apink are the only group to do it.
What is the point of the sense of duty if a gold mine in Japan is waiting for Plan A?
CFs, shows, acting all give them the most money, but the lack of Korean comeback will jeopardize the amount of deals the girls receive.
Again, I am not condemning Japanese promotion because as I said and will reiterate that most of the money is there. But speaking rationally, I am going to throw this example again.
"Let us say Plan A has only $20 to invest in Apink. The Japanese market is lucrative. Investing $10 in Japan will give them a $100 return. Whereas, the Korean market is not. Investing $10 in Korea will only earn them a mediocre $20.
Then why won't Plan A completely use up their $20 investment in Japan? What is the point of even wasting your investment in Korea? Unless, you can prove to me there is an optimal amount of investment combining the two independent variables"
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Thank you for explaining yourself.
My question is if Japan is where most of the money is, and Korean promotions bring little return — to the point of breaking even— as sleepyk said, then what is the point of having Korean promotions; it is tantamount to throwing money down the drain.
Why doesn't Plan A focus solely in the Japanese market?
To put it down with numbers and a bit of simple economics:
Let us say Plan A has only $20 to invest in Apink. The Japanese market is lucrative. Investing $10 in Japan will give them a $100 return. Whereas, the Korean market is not. Investing $10 in Korea will only earn them a mediocre $20.
Then why won't Plan A completely use up their $20 investment in Japan? What is the point of even wasting your investment in Korea? Unless, you can prove to me there is an optimal amount of investment combining the two independent variables
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As a Hong Konger, I gotta be the first to report this.
7 Hong Kong fansites raised around $1K USD (I read on the magazine article) to buy all of this for the girls.
https://www.facebook.com/naeunhongkong/posts/1227161514066028

Hong Kong's local food

6 pair of silver chopsticks for each member with their name engraved on it.

More:
https://www.facebook.com/naeunhongkong/posts/1227161514066028
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I want Eunji to feed me the oyster x3
I want Chorong to feed me the oyster x3
I want Bomi to feed me the oyster x3
I want Namjoo to feed me the oyster x3
I want Hayoung to feed me the oyster x3
I want Naeun to feed me the oyster x3
Sorry, Bomi stans are all weirdos.
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The organizers uploaded an album of the Hong Kong concert on their Facebook page.





^ Look at those Eunji fanboard. Beautiful.
I miss the girls so much. I really do.
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English Translation to this:
Our PANDAs today's weather is cool and warm at the same time. Thanks to PANDAs perhaps. Wish that everyone is happy. Soon the new semester will begin and everyone will face different experiences let's cheer up and walk together with Apink
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I don't appreciate your arrogance and rudeness. I answered you nicely and in a civil way. FYI, I'm not FUCKING with you! I just answered your question on why Plan A won't stop promoting Apink in Japan. And if those fans want to move to another groups then let them. You, me, Apink, or anyone are not entitled to how they deal with their life. Apink doesn't need fans who will leave them just because they can't wait or feel entitled that Apink owe them anything. All of us here are fans who are willing to support them through thick and thin and if those fans can't do it then the exit door is always open. If you still have any issues about how Plan A handles Apink then feel free to email them.
Sure, if you support the waiting game in Korea, they will be off the chart in no time. Cold truth is they will be replaced. This has nothing to do with loyalty, so don't go with your pathos justification of loyalty, because that does not work in Kpop. You want Apink to stay relevant, then comeback is the only way they can keep the fanbase steady. It's really common sense, that Plan A doesn't seem to get, how critical the next Korean comeback is to the girls. Attention must be paid; there is not much time left if Plan A does not endeavour to keep the girls relevant in the Korean pop industry.
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What you are saying is analogous to this:
Plan A flippantly watches the robbers rob the bank, but does nothing to stop it. We are the money (fanbase) inside the bank. We can remain united and loyal, but until Plan A stops the robbers, we will lose more and more money.
Loyalty is appreciated, but it is not a practical solution. Hate to say this, but comeback is foremost and a prerequisite for loyalty to even EXIST.
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There's always the difference between the short turn and the long run. You don't know that Plan A is right now asking people to move on to the NGGs. If plan a is going to continue, might as well move them to Japan, start new, and retire them from the Korean industry. No Korean comeback for a year? Don't Fuck with me, matePlan A won't stop promoting in Japan why?
First of all Apink is under a contract in Japan. As soon as they signed that contract they must comply to whatever was written in that contract. Plan A are not the only ones deciding their Japanese activities. I don't think you guys realize that Apink signed under J-Rock company which means they are the ones who also have a say on their Japan schedules whether it be having 2 comebacks in Japan with fanmeetings/concerts.
Second, Plan A is a business just like any other entertainment companies. They can't give up the amount of money they are getting from Apink's Japan activities. Anyone running a business would be insane to do such drastic move. If you look at these figures of the amount of money they earned just the first half of last year most of the earnings was from Japan. Yes fans can complain all they want how Apink keep on promoting in Japan but the 36 billion won sales were mostly from Japan's activities. What they are making in Korea they can easily double that in Japan. Not unless Korea's economy can bring in that huge amount of money or double it then there is no way Plan A will give up Apink's Japan activities. Apink, Plan A, and J-Rock are all part of a business where they have to constantly make money. Just like what Apink said before they are the breadwinner of Plan A. They are not only feeding one mouth, they are practically helping the company pay for all the employees and their family.
Yes as a fan it's unfair how Plan A keeps on messing up how they promote Apink and may look like they are always focusing on their Japan activities and not the domestic one, however, you guys have to look at the big picture here. At the end of the day, a business will always go towards a place where they make more earnings.
Just cut all the Korean activities, and relocate to Japan.
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Aside from Victon getting another comeback before Apink
I see literially no difference in the attention of Plan A is giving to them
Most of the stuff Victon is getting Apink have always been getting
The only difference is one is 4 months old rookie,another one is 6 years old popular group
And we are still in February of 2017,so Apink could easily come back right after Victon and make another comeback in 2nd half of the year
I dont know if you stan BTOB or other current CUBE artists but you just sound like and act like one of their fans
And you act like Plan A debuted 2-3 newer acts after Apink so they couldn't fill in 2 comebacks this year
The major problem of Plan A in Apink is they are always lazy and safe,not the ability in promotion
If they learnt their lession from last year,they will promote them much harder this year
Just wait and see
And please stop whining about overseas activities
They just had their first ever fanmeeting in Hong Kong last week since the debut 6 years ago
Do you know how much Chinese fans they have?
Stop worrying about something that havent happened
Apink still safely sits in top 6-7 girl groups and they can easily get back to top 5 with a strong comeback
They aint nobody groups without any hit songs and no appeal to international fans
She's concerned about the frequent Japanese promotions. Throwing 1 year of 2 months hiatus for the Japanese market? Smart move? I don't think so. Plan A acts as if they are done with in Korea.
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This is Pink Pandas begging Choi Jin Ho for a Korean comeback:
https://www.facebook.com/9gag/videos/10155414042351840/
Very fitting.
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The girls are having an MTV Asia interview? Soon?
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In which way Plan A is spending more on Victon's comeback,unless I am missing something big
I am not defending them but I see no difference in how Plan A is promoting Victon compared to Apink
Please dont be whinny fans like other fandoms 24/7
Apink doesnt need them in their fandom
In which way Plan A is spending more on Victon's comeback,unless I am missing something big
I am not defending them but I see no difference in how Plan A is promoting Victon compared to Apink
Please dont be whinny fans like other fandoms 24/7
Apink doesnt need them in their fandom
You are right. We need Plan A's expenditure report to figure out, but that is confidential anyway?
When will Apinj put a stop to their Japanese comeback and focus in Korea?
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I found a rare video of the girls' birthday message to Yookyung:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NUV3WC2R3Ep-
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Hong Kong is not completely part of China; we have our own tripartite political systems independent from China. So we aren't affected at all!that's so awesome! so proud of the girls..but I thought there was some type of kpop ban in China?
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A thank you advertisement on a public bus from the organizer.
The Chinese says "The fanmeeting was overwhelmingly sold out. Thank you Pandas for the support!"
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[20170220] NaverTV video of their arrival in Incheon Airport from Hong Kong
http://tv.naver.com/v/1462860?openType=nmpA bit concerned that the fans were this close to the girls? Not only were they intruding their personal space, but the fan that was touching Hayoung's arm though, that is disrespectful. The last time I waited for IU when she was leaving Hong Kong, there were 8 security guards that formed a ring around her and 2 of her managers.
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A Pink (에이핑크) Official Thread
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Hayoung and her cute writing. Chorong's visuals though.