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  1. Ok, so you were kind of shouty pretty much throughout. A shouty quality is a sign of a lack of support, therefore I recommend you place your hand on your support and create a tension there. When you're attempting to support our voice you should feel a slightly tense feeling in your lower abdomen, pelvis area. Some people have related it to like your trying to force a shit out. Now, that's kind of vulgar, BUT if it helps..it helps. I think I said this last time about you, but diction. I sound like a broken record. Diction, diction, diction. It's not the Korean sound is bad, likes your vowels and whatnot sound Korean. It's just that it sounds like, because I can't see it, that your jaw is moving to much and that your mouth is too spread and open. Try to keep your corners in with a tall, oval, mouth shape. This will help keep your soft palate lifted. And really try not to get your jaw involved. Your jaw is a decoration you do not need it to make the sound of your letters there should always been very minimal jaw movement when you sing. So my recommendation is to sing with a finger resting on your chin and keeping a conscious mindset of keeping your jaw still and letting you lips,tongue, and teeth do all the diction work and not your jaw. You do still have that flat sounding in-your-jaw tone quality, you need to keep that sound in your cheekbones even think a little be nasal so you just pull that sound forward into you mask.

    *Just to break the large paragraph*

    I really didn't sense much support because of how thrown the sound was so it it's hard to tell what has a nice true supported sound and what doesn't. But, I would say Bb3/B3 is safe for you, I don't know if that's different than last time. Lower I have no idea..Mr.Mr has A3s..which are A2s for you and those weren't really supported. So, I need something that's a little bit higher in when it comes to lower register to kind of get more of an idea.

    I will say on Tiffany Eb5..which is an Eb4 for you, if you did do it on pitch, you took nice advantage of the open vowel sound because that was kind of opened and more masked placed, but it still had some tension but it's understandable.

    I think I understand what you mean. Thanks for the feedback. Means a lot!
  2. Yes, the blog says his supported/resonant range is up to G#4/A4 so yes that means the notes after are strained and don't have good support. Nope, no improvement after those notes.

     

    Oh well, the run really wasn't smooth.

     

    His habits? Well, most of those are stylistic, like the tight notes. The whole time he was singing in a range he was pretty much well supported in. So tight notes unless they were above A4 were stylistic. At least I believe so. The veins really don't mean much, that could honestly just be related to the natural contours of his neck. Though, I will admit, he does hold his head in very exaggerated positions. He's a very "extra" singer. He reminds me of The One quite a bit.

    LOL at The One and "extra" in one sentence. But I know what you mean. This extraness nonetheless is the thing that catches public's attention. Accompanied with his pretty decent skill, everyone sees him as the vocalist that "emotes amazingly". Hence Junsu >>>> Kyuhyun was born. It's all the power of marketing tho. It plays really well for Junsu's favor, but not for everyone who actually knows vocal lol.

  3. Sorry, but you can't watch this video in the United States.

     

     

    1:24 that's a G4 the G4 itself wasn't bad, but I really don't like that vibrato..

    1:53 that's an F3...that's not too bad..I suppose lol

    3:07 A4 that was pretty nice, resonant.

    3:49 G4 that was pretty good.

    Soo yeah, um...Junsu has a really thin and tiny voice lool

     

    2:20 sustained resonant G4

    3:08 another resonant G4

    3:20 another resonant G4

     

    Ok, just for future reference, when you do time stamps trying to put the time stamp on the actual note instead of a couple seconds before. Because if it's a couple of seconds before we might miss the note you actually wanted, Like for the last video you said 3:14, but at 3:14 he didn't do anything at 3:20 he did a G4, I think that is what you were looking for. That was a full 6 seconds after your time stamp. Unless you meant that run..which wasn't really good.

    Thanks VT Evil Queen for the answer. So I gather he's quite good up to A4 with resonance. His supported range, according to the VA blog, is up to G#4/A4, does it mean that he resonates A4 consistently and flops Bb4/B4 without support, which is the note right after? So no improvement from Junsu then lol.

    Actually, I did mean the timestamp I gave. By 3:08 - 3:14, I want the first sustained note and the run to be analyzed. I mean, I want to know was his agility any good with well separation and support throughout lol. I didn't give 3:20 since I thought the note didn't strike me to be that good and worth to analyze. Guess I was wrong lol. It was too quick for me to know whether it is good or not.

    How about his habits I pointed out? Do you think those habits render him to be a better vocalist than he is now? Or are those habits not significant to his vocal afterall?

  4. Hi guys, mind to check Junsu's last performances from EBS Space Symathy? Please tell me what are the notes he sang and how were those?

    1:24, 3:07, 3:49

     

     

    and 2:18, 3:08-3:14

     

     

    I think these performances are quite nice but some things intrigue me about Junsu's technical singing. I think he often produces tight notes to make it seem emotional or something (or is it just me?), his veins on his neck are often pop like is that he often strains? He also likes to strecth his neck longer when hitting high notes, is that his bad habit? All in all, I still find these performance worth watching, the arrangements are quite fine and his intonation and dynamics are not bad, right?

  5. You'll be getting my advice for this ok? Well, you really shouldn't sing songs that are way above your skill level, because they don't showcase you abilities well, because if you sing too far above your ability level it was showcase more of what your are bad at than what you are good at.

     

    Ok so right off you the bat, your sound is just in your jaw. What this is means is that you aren't placing in your mask and the sound is just dragging. This results in a flat and monotonous sound. Your vocal colors aren't showing. What I want you to do is think cheekbones. You should feel vibrations in your cheeks when you sing. Now, a way to help you understand what you should be feeling is to hum. When you hum your sound resonates directly into the mask. You should feel a buzzing/tingly feeling. I want you to hum on a "mmm" sound and open on an "ah" sound. Essentially you're saying "Ma" the "mmm" sound helps your voice resonate in the mask and the ah sound that you open to opens your throat, lifts the soft palate and helps you project. The tingling feeling you felt while doing the "Mmm" sound should translate when you go to the "Ah" sound. Another way to help you remember cheekbones is to place your pointer fingers on your cheekbones while you sing and aim your sound there. 

     

    At 0:40 you hit an F2 it was pretty weak, but it was there. Your support in the C3-G#3 isn't bad, it's just flat sounding. Just remember cheekbones. The 2:10-2:35 section that is WAY above your skill level. That is tricky rhythm and true vocal runs. It's pretty much Coloratura. So, it's not good. I'm not saying this to be mean, but it's just way above you at this point. The C#4 you did @2:34 wasn't really bad, but it's not truly supported and your tone just isn't coming through. You actually messed up the line after that. 2:33 Eb4 very in the back of your throat. Project forward. Ok, at the beginning of the scale down you did an F#4 in falsetto. I think SoHyang does a B5, so you should have done a B4, but WHATEVER it doesn't matter. The scale down needs work. 3:15 was a B3 that wasn't bad, pretty ok the vibrato could be a lil' bit slower though. At the end you sustained a B3 which should have been an E4, but B3 is in the key I believe so it's kk. It wasn't bad but it needs more connected support.

     

    Diction, diction, diction, your diction is pretty unclear. First you need to get your sound out of your jaw and place it forward that will help a lot. I also feel you let you tongue slide back make sure you keep it forward that will also help keep your sound forward. 

     

    I recommend you sing songs more in the G#2-D4 range that doesn't have any kind of tricky rhythm or many runs like Fate does. DO NOT sing SoHyang. She is WAY to advanced for you to sing. Pretty much everything she does has pretty complex coloratura like runs and some odd tricky rhythms. She's a Virtuoso. Sing something more manageable. 

     

    Since you sang in Korean I doubt you would mind if I just give you some kpop songs

    Closer- TaeYeon

    That One Person You- Jessica

    All of Sudden- Krystal

    Shy Boy-15&

    Like a Star-15&

    Nobody-YeEun you'll be doing E2s but whatever it's "easier"

     

    these are just some that came to mind.

    Thank you so much for your feedback I greatly appreciate it.

    I think I sang the song down by 1 octave and 3 notes or around that if I'm not mistaken that's why the notes were so low compared to sohyang's lol.

    And I also know that this song requires great singing ability, but I didn't post it to get compliments, on the contrary, I tried to make my errors more obvious and noticeable. Your feedback is what I really expected so thanks again.

    But I will use easier song next time so I can progress step by step.

    By flatsounding, do you mean that I can keep my voice on the right pitch? If so, I also hear it. But Idk what's wrong. Is it bcs of my lack breath support/control or is there any reason behind that? Bcs I'm also annoyed by that.

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  6. Anyone minds to tell me what note did I sing in 0:40, 2:10-2:35, 3:15, 4:01 and how is the quality of each note? Ahmin said that my supported range is C3-C4 although inconsistent so I'm aware that I don't slay the notes but how bad are those? I welcome everyone that want to criticize the whole song tho. Ahmin said that I have yet to master easier songs first but I can't help it I really like sohyang and this song lol.

     

     

  7. Iirc Dileesa Hunter, the woman who analysed Hyorin's vocal, in one of her instagram posts says that males who has extensive higher range and sings mostly in HV/falsetto is called falsettist whereas male who naturally possess the tessitura/timbre similar with that of soprano/mezzo is called countertenor. Idk how legit that is tho.

  8. What do y'all think her voice type is? She sounds like a mezzo.

     

     

    Yeah her lower register sounds like Beyonce's, especially below E2. How do you rate her as a vocalist? I don't think she's very consistent on her notes based on that video. Her vocal analysis are quite good tho.
  9. How are 2NE1's vocals?

     

    Also, can you guys rate them from member to member? Like, best to worst?

    I think Minzy > Bom > CL > Dara

    Minzy herself is not that good to begin with, and iirc Bom isn't the worst since she at least has a supported, though narrow, but still supported range. And Dara is worse than CL since Dara has no real support and has major intonation issues..

    I know this from reading the earlier pages of this thread and I might have no idea if there's any progress or regress from each member. So you might want to wait for others' answer, if they choose to answer you lol.

     

    Edit: there's really no point to rate them tho. Except Minzy, they are all weak vocalists so the three of them might cancel each other out to be the weakest vocalist imo.

  10. Adding more chest won't make someone's resonance bigger. Having an even mix is the best. Most people think she sucks, because they don't take her voice type into account.

    Who is the one most people think sucks? Mariah or whitney? I thought most people worshipped them tbh.
  11. Doesn't Mariah put in more chest than Whitney?

    I think Whitney put slightly more chest than Mariah tho. I know both have chestier belts but I really think Whitney put a little more chest than Mariah. That's why some people may mistake her being strained/strangled in her upper belts. And I also think that's why Whitney's resonance was somewhat bigger than Mariah's. (And also due to whitney being a spinto soprano iirc). But please correct me if I'm wrong.
  12. I thought it was Sulli too! Weird right? lol

     

    There's nothing falsetto-y about it, it was just soft in dynamic but it still mixed voice. And because Tiffany manages to yell A4's LOL

     

    By upper belts do you mean F#5? Because they both stayed around D5 and below and to me, personally, they were quite even in that area. Hyorin only has more ease as she ascends because she doesn't push too much chest into her mix to go higher, as Ailee does. I'm going to make a post about Ailee's F#5's actually. Anyway, Ailee has more consistency in not getting throaty and supporting her mix, but uses too much chest, Hyorin has a very nice healthy balance, but tends to get throaty for some reason. Honestly this performance was pretty much even for both of them.

     

    I'm going to make a separate post to address the Ailee vs. Hyorin bullshit that is this biased little fuckery that happens here in the Vocals Thread.

    Yeah I think Ailee's chesty mix is what makes her have less ease on her belts. The comparison is like Whitney and Mariah. They resonate in a relatively even range, but Mariah had more ease than Whitney bcs Whitney brought more chest in her belts than Mariah.

     

    I'm expecting that separate post as this one performance is definitely very interesting to analyze lol.

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  13. I'm not sure if they are resonant or not, but they surely are supported.

     

    SoHyang does G#5s correctly all the time. Seriously...like her belts are always resonant. Just look up a vocal range video of her lol.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvsgCllcNPE

    Resonant Bb5s @3:13

    The ending I believe is a G5..or a G#5 I forget. It's resonant though.

     

    Every time SoHyang tries her hand at a C6 she supports/resonates it.

     

    @2:40 Resonant C6

    Thank you very much for correcting me. I think I misread/misunderstood that info somewhere lol.

     

    It was A4 and I mean this isnt an fx thread, although I love fx I cant for sure tell u who it is.. I think its either Krystal or Luna.. Im leaning more towards Krystal and no it's not falsetto, it was just a sustained mid-belt note but it was sustained softly and was just nicely supported. (If it's Krystal then she slaying Tiffany lol jk but almost)

     

    That was really really good for both of them, Hyorin was powerful and very strong on those D5's throughout and so was Ailee, they were both pretty much on point and dancing really well. lol I'm sorry but I don't know if you guys noticed, many times Ailee was not singing in the choruses, she wasn't really being drawn out not to mention this is a semitone down from the original and the same Hyorin used in her solo performance of this song already, so the backing vocals are all Hyorin's voice and hence her voice is more powerful and prominent in the choruses and backing vocals, but they were pretty much on point both of them. Also F#5*, sorry I must disagree, those F#5's sounded throaty/strained to me, but also Ailee's F5 she did at one point wasn't so good... sadly, it wasn't strained but it didn't project very well, too much chest. Also Hyorin's run @1:03 was a bit sloppy, but that was about it, the run for the F#5 was good! Hyorin was growling a lot though, I wonder if her voice is okay..

    Exactly what I said. The runs in that particular time was sloppy and the highest note was throaty (idk if it was also strained, doesn't sound like one to me, but the runs was pretty nice). But that's all about it. Anyway Ahmin, since you are one of the folks that knows much about Ailee, why Ailee has less ease on belting the high notes in that particular performance? Hyorin's belts somewhat seemed more free and opened in upper belts. Or is it just me?
  14. Sorry for the bit of OT, but how are Bey's G#5 here?

    4:34 and 4:39

     

    Has any kpop idol even done a G#5 correctly? Or any singer, maybe Sohyang?

    Lol SoHyang does B5s correctly. I'm not sure about C6 tho, I know she did belt C6, but afaik it wasn't good. But Beyonce is a Lyric Mezzo, so G#5 is already far from her tessitura anyway.
  15. How was their performance (no G5, right?) Thanks~

    http://youtu.be/ZPzu_KjKLY0

    OMG Hyorin is flawless. Just minor inaccurate runs somewhere and a little throatiness, I think. Ailee is good too! But it is clear in this performance that Hyorin's resonance was so big, it drowned Ailee's voice when they sang together in the chorus. It sounded like Hyorin sang alone in the chorus lol.

    Hyorin also seems to have more ease on the high notes. Was that because she has more balanced mix? At this point, whats stopping Hyorin from being exactly at the same level as Ailee? Is it due to consistency and rare use of true head voice?

  16. Hey guys finished my Taemin video finally! lol

     

     

     

    LOVE ME

    Great video. I don't know Taemin that well but from the video I think his head voice is the least developed in his registers. I love his G#4-A4 tho. Do the notes in 3:12 (first G#4) and 4:02 (A4 I think) resonant or just supported? I like both notes the most in the video.
  17. what?I was told she was a lyric soprano when she debuted and then she became a mezzo.

     

     

    or was it whitney?

    I thought whitney and mariah had the same case. They both were sopranos in the beginning and still soprano in the end. Their vocal folds just did/do not have the super ability they once had imo.

  18. You're welcome. Yup, it's not a bad thing. Babs is a Lyric Mezzo-Soprano so her using a headier mix on a G5 isn't surprising,that's pretty high for a Mezzo-Soprano.

    Was Babs a Lyric Mezzo-Soprano since her debut/prime or just since after 1990/2000's? I found her voice in her prime is rather girly than womanly which is an indicator for a Soprano voice type. It did not really have the thickness she has now since lately. Can someone changed voice type as he/she gets older?
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    oh I forgot to tell u but my phone got stolen so if u want to contact me don't use KKT nor LINE, pm me instead (or get yourself a twitter account)

     

    Instead of answering my question first, you just told me that your phone is lost. Lol I have a twitter account tyvm but I can only contact u via dm tho if you're okay with that.
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