IHaveAnElephantOnMyArm

i can't stop watching this vid omg the way people've been openly teasing Heechul more and more is so refreshing

the country i'm in right now won't let me access youtube on my laptop, but for a version with english subs, go and search for "verkwan irony" in the youtube search bar. the cli[p should be something like "verkwan compilation #3" , and the excerpt begins at the 1 min mark or try this: https://youtube.SZv0S6fjgSY i agree that he's very sensitive about the one-sided thing tho, i'm not too sure, especially since the way Vernon looks at him, or rather, the way his eyes always follows Seungkwan, speaks a lot to me. That said, i don't think Vernon would really initiate anything more than platonic between them, coz he's given off the same "no homo"/ i'm leaning towards "in denial vibe" since pre-debut when it comes to their relationship

yeah I think he was (even more) flustered because Kangmin went for the nonchalant playboy tone xd after the "we like girls" statement Kangmin was like "oops yeah yeah girls are the best" but i guess the more professional saying should be "Juliets (their fans) are the best" lol Also, i think S.Coups (Seventeen's leader) sort of knows/guesses that Seungkwan likes guys. Even before debut there were multiple instances where he teases Seungkwan and it seems like he genuinely cares and accepts him, which is really nice like this video with just them two: https://youtu.be/SZv0S6fjgSY Coups: who do you like the most? Seungkwan: me? i like everyone in Seventeen Coups: /whispers/ you're lying Seungkwan: /doesn't answer/ Coups: except hyung Seungkwan: i like everyone, but that's sort of different...the heart is good (i don't really get this) ...hyungs are good, dongsaengs are good, friends are good (note in vid: his only same-aged friend is Vernon) ...if i compare them my fingers hurt (meaning it's hard to compare the members) *then they proceed to biting their own fingers lol* that's only one instance, but i always thought of Seungkwan and Vernon as purely platonic before i saw the difference between them pre-debut and after-debut. like many other pre-debut ships they became a lot less touchy with each other after-debut, but go watch any Seventeen video and look at the way Vernon looks at Seungkwan...it's incredible. and that's me speaking as someone who never "ships" blindly

gotta love these rising GAYpop stars ^i don't know much abt Chanyeol but i agree that Mingyu pings to the point that i never doubted it xd seriously though i can't pinpoint anything but it's like his very existence doesn't allow me to find him straight at all.

no offence but by "actual discussion" do you mean posters should have proof of idols having sex with each other before posting? (also this thread's onto page 2226, are u guys sure all of it's "shipping"?)

what's happening? ot but all of them look so dead xd

i'm back after backtracking for the past 2 weeks lol and someone 500 pages ago mentioned Ravi's obsession with Ken: (i felt like this vid'd be very relevant)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKAO3sL5hw 2:02 onwards they talk about having a "19+" concept for the next comeback/concert Changsub: the dress code will be bikinis! *Eunkwang: very happy* Peniel: how about male fans? (bless this man) Changsub: (w/o missing a beat) male fans will be wearing bikinis too (lol) Hyunsik: male fans will be wearing swim briefs! (not sure if this is the same in English as in Korean but they mean those really tight triangular panties lol) Changsub: ok. we'll also be wearing bikinis (lmao) bless BTOB for this

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My heart is still so heavy...and i might be biased but are less celebrities (in general) posting about it? i don't want it to be true but i feel like people care less just because a) its a night club b) its a LGBTQ* nightclub or c) its the U.S. and it's happened too many times? any reason sucks big time

(especially 0:43, that tongue movement) I.M.'s been pinging more and more...beware Minhyuk he's catching up with the ping

i didn't really catch what they're saying but around the 6:35 mark the caption says sth like his butt is "bouncy"/has bounciness/elasticity lol (i swear the word elasticity does not sound as weird as it is in English when in Korean lol) and sorry for backtracking so much (xd) but Ken pings as gay/prefers men to me

SNL...what's with all these obviously homoerotic plots ^the vid above, it's Chanyeol who asks "what if it's a guy" first right? (then Chen) edit: go to 0:21 for blessings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xVm5WHTgtY

i like how Puff's just laughing along also, has anybody been following Solar and Eric on WGB?

Jackson acknowledging fanboys/lgbtq* fans again https://www.instagram.com/p/BGEbDaFndbW/?taken-by=jacksonwang852g7&hl=en -"are you with your boyfriend? girlfriend?" and i'm so happy with BTS' song *in tears* mom i have stanned the right group

ah yeahh thanks idk i feel like he's freaking out because he thought it was a bug or sth lol reference: 1:15 onwards (he's the one in black)

judging from how close Wonwoo and Mingyu were predebut, i always wonder how Mingyu feels about Wonwoo putting a distance between them (on screen at least). Personally i'd feel hurt if one of my best friends pushed me away, but i'd get how uncomfortable Wonwoo is i guess. at this point i'm just wondering whether Wonwoo is so uncomfortable because he's maybe a bit homophobic (please no), or just genuinely freaked out by the idea of being shipped with his best friend about Jeonghan, I'd agree that he could be alpha, but i gotta say alpha and gay are not mutually exclusive btw do you know how i could find the vid where Jeonghan kissed S.Coups?

do you mean the one on weekly idol? i think among the 13 of them, he's one of the most secure people (actually a lot of them seem very comfortable with themselves in general) in terms of masculinity. Even before debut he's been very excessive with skinship, but it's not like he excessively initiates fanservice, more like he's reaallly comfortable with being affectionate with guys (can't say about girls because idols aren't really "allowed" to have fun with "the opposite sex"...) and yes i'm starting to think he likes kissing as a hobby lol This sums up his actions so much tbh tho he does show an almost excessive amount of interest in guys, whether it's intentionally played up or not, to the extent that i'm not very convinced that he's not thinking of himself as part of the LGBTQ* community you know what i mean? Seventeen's Vernon's said to have a lot of fanboys and he's been known to be very accepting, but it could be stemmed from his mixed-race background (being stigmatized and such), but for Jackson...not that we'd necessarily know how he came to be so awesomely open-minded and everything but you know

Mark seems sorta shy/flustered for a split second i wouldn't say their reaction's scripted but i'd imagine them thinking about this kind of situations beforehand, cos i'm sure fans throw shipping comments and questions at them all the time btw, have a very chill (or eager) S.Coups honestly tho this man's level of comfort for skinship and affection is so refreshing (like i don't think he'd be the kind to ever go "no homo"/try to "justify" his PDA) edit: abt k-fans not liking the S.Coups x Jeonghan pairing because they're "too compatible"(?)--does anybody know if how true that rumor is? cos i always thought it's one of the most popular ships, promoted by PLEDIS + themselves also, him hugging a fanboy

Speaking about fanboys, i distinctly remember Jungkook answering "i love you" to a male fan on Kiss the Radio (i think) like the radio host was reading out comments from fans and there's one saying "as a male fan, i really love you. what do you think about male fans?" and Jungkook answers without missing a beat, "i love you, our male fan, i love you" (even with my elementary Korean i could tell it's not a mistranslation) so kudos to him i always think Jimin has the most fanboys within BTS btw edit: can't seem to find the vid, but its during the I NEED U era i believe (i have the screen shots but due to technical difficulties (xd) i can't post them)

Kim Minsuk mentions multiple times in the vid abt going to Namsan with a girlfriend, even doing double dates, and L never responds enthusiastically or with interest (not that it's unexpected); makes me wonder if he's out to many friends?

just because the ones you've met are girls doesn't mean all are, or that straight men for some reason MUST like them personally Wonwoo being anti-SNSD doesn't make him ping more to me tho

I didn't know the other model's a guy too (unless they're not cis) and slightly ot but i googled "Kristen Stewart's new girlfriend" and i found this Soko's her ex-gf Seeing Rob at the Met Gala helped Kristen come to terms with ending her relationship with SoKo. She realised that she still hasn't found that deep connection with anyone since she was with Rob," a source told the gossip site. the horror i can't. give me some time to breathe.

that's Jun i personally think he isn't straight but maybe that's just me; anyhow i might be misled by his desire to fit in & gain attention from S. Coups in particular coz he's a foreign member and it seems like he's not fitting in as well as The8 (the other Chinese member) the bisexual/pansexual discussion is interesting (and important), but i think we should all remain level-headed and open-minded instead of arguing for what is 100% "correct"