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Everything posted by Davidholic8
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LOL, that's my range exactly. Weird.
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Switching gears here, lol, but does anyone know Floor Jansen enough to do a vocal analysis of her? She's considered an elite in the symphonic metal genre, but I don't know her well enough to say one way or the other. But she hits a G5 or G#5 here that's really nice; that being said, I think much of the rest of the performance sounds forced.
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Okay, I respect your opinion, even if we disagree.
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If you are sensitive about gender issues, I apologize. I've met some people like that before. I'm just an English major, so "his" comes out naturally. Maybe next time I'll say "their," but I have qualms with bending pronouns, even if it's generally accepted.
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Her voice went throaty once, she hit the note, was resonant, and got throaty when she ended the note. If you can't hear that, I'm sorry. But it's there. It was definitely not a smooth ending to the note. In any case, it was enough to make me turn my head when I was just peacefully listening to it for the first time. In any case, I'm not saying Sohyang is a bad or not resonant singer. I'm just saying her throatiness at times affects her resonance. Her vibrato CAN be laggy (rarely, but sometimes), and she is not able to project her voice as well as LSH can. Maybe it is due to her lack of experience in the professional field like someone mentioned earlier. I don't know the reason. But it's not worth debating about, in any case. BYE. This was not my original purpose for replying back, so this has derailed into a conversation we've already fruitlessly had, and there's no point in discussing it again. If anyone wants me to create a blooper reel for Sohyang, you're gonna have to wait a long time. But I'm going to Korea next Tuesday to see my girl Lee Sun Hee in concert. :D
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This is a generic "his" that's been used for centuries as part of the English language to denote both sexes. EDIT: Not on topic.
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Listen to the end of the note. It's not smooth at all. She gruffs out the last bit of sound, so .... Anyway, bye. I'm not debating this today. No one's changing his mind.
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Same.
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Two times towards the ending of this, she is throaty. There are others like this. I can't take the time to find them right now. Friend's coming over and the dorm's a mess, so. :P In any case, this is not an attack on Sohyang. I'm just stating what I hear. She's still a great singer.
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Bye. Well, I watched at least four videos where she got throaty yesterday. I've watched a LOT of Sohyang, and out side IAAS videos, she gets throaty a lot, especially in recent performances. There's no reason to debate this. It's merely the truth.
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And you can say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean I'm going to agree with you. Honestly, no one here is even too familiar with LSH's music to even judge her, except perhaps a few people (including myself). The truth of the matter is Sohyang has a few technical issues that LSH doesn't have, which includes getting throaty (A LOT) and ruining her resonance. You can hear a difference in resonance quality and vocal projection when you listen to the two singers, just like you can hear a difference when Babs sings and Sohyang sings. I'm not dissing Sohyang, but this is just true. To say otherwise is simply wrong.
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1) Musicality is a standard used by many on this site and is even included on the Kpop analysis blog, so what's your problem? 2) It's clear ì´ì„ í¬ has a more powerful and resonant voice. If you can't hear it, I can't help you. ì´ì„ í¬ has much better vocal projection than 소향 and has a richer and fuller sound.If they sang together, you would hear ì´ì„ í¬ over 소향. It's like saying Babs and 소향 are on the same level when it comes to resonance.I'm absolutely not dissing on 소향,I'm just saying. 3) I said 소향 had a more developed upper register, so. ..? Again, your issue? 4) You can't really compare them well because their styles are different.and ì´ì„ í¬ sings in more diverse styles than 소향.I mean you could to am extent, but it wouldn't get you far.Especially when talking about genres other than pop that ì´ì„ í¬ can sing and 소향 cant.I don't see why there's a need to debate this because quite honestly I didn't say either singer is even close to bad or ordinary. Each has her strengths.That's all I'm saying.
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No, Sohyang is not better than Lee Sun Hee. They have a VERY different style. Sohyang has a much more developed upper register than LSH, but Lee Sun Hee has a much more resonant and powerful lower and mid register, and is very balanced in all her registers. Sohyang is extremely resonant in her mid-register, but LSH is moreso, and she often has to hold her microphone at her waist (no kiddin') to avoid busting a speaker (which really happened early in her career). That being said, you can't really compare the two. It's more of a stylistic thing. Personally, I think LSH is more experienced and is a better overall singer, but both are so good that comparison is useless and you should just listen to them for their respective styles. I will say that LSH is able to sing in more styles and use more techniques than Sohyang can, but I'm not saying that Sohyang isn't a diverse singer. In terms of musicality, I'd say LSH is better, as she composes and writes the lyrics for much of her music (including Fate ì¸ì—°). But Sohyang is a good improviser for vocal runs, which LSH doesn't do often; it's just not her style. At the very least, I'd say they are equal with differing parts of their techniques and voices being better than the other, but if I had to choose, I'd give it to LSH for her ability to sing in more styles in more techniques. Upper registers aren't everything. In any case, I think Sohyang admires LSH, as is evidenced by her covering of two of LSH's songs. Based on my past comments, people here probably think I hate Sohyang; I don't. I just think she has a few technical issues now and then, but that doesn't stop her from being better than 90% of everyone else out there.
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EDIT: forgot to quote. LOL Post is below.
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She mixes well, but some of the vibrato sounds forced, and she doesn't really have a soft enough voice to make the ending work out for me personally. Still a great performance, though.
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Lord-willing, she's turn 50 this year (and she's already 50 or 51 in Korean age).
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Lee Sun Hee is by far one of the best singers in Korea and way past the level of Ock Joohyun/Lee Younghyun. And I'm not just saying this because she's my bias. The amount of vocally demanding stuff she has accomplished over the last thirty years places her on an elite level. EDIT: By the way, most Koreans consider Sun-hee (Sunny) their greatest singer.
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Of course. She's the most resonant singer I've ever heard.
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Of course, Lee Sun Hee is always great. But it's a shame you've only posted songs that come from OSTs. She's got a long discography of music ranging from the 1980s with some seriously good stuff (vocally, emotionally, stylistically). If you like these songs, you should check them out (though I can understand if 80s and 90s music aren't your thing). EDIT: Oh, you included one of her new (non-OST) songs, too! For some reason, I didn't see that when I first responded. Just for a more detailed answer: ì´ì„ í¬ is an incredibly amazing vocalist with a great lower and mid register (and a great upper register, too, that she rarely uses), with incredible resonance and power behind her voice. She is the most versatile singer in Korea, and can employ a variety of vocal techniques within and outside the pop genre. Her songs sang in the traditional style and those sang in the trot/folk style are also really good, and she is able to change her tone to match a variety of genres. She's like a Korean Babs.
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It wasn't screeched at all, actually, and the sound was really bright and pure, even if it were a bit pitchy. If it weren't resonant, she wouldn't be able to project it as she did. It's not like she squeaked it into a microphone. There was no external amplification. Her renown in the opera community, even in the eyes of critics, was her amazing ability to hit and resonate at such high levels. What I mean by not being that technical was that she wasn't a Sumi Jo, she just had a better mastery of high notes. I'm not saying she was good at everything, but she was almost considered a one-trick pony with her amazing and resonant upper register.
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Mado Robin was by no means a very technical singer, but the fact remains that she could hit these notes and resonate at such a high octave with ease, and according to many, could even resonate in the seventh octave.
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Mado Robin hitting a Bb6 in full head voice. There are also recordings on YouTube of her hitting a B6 in full head voice (two of which are included in her vocal range video). There are allegedly two recordings of her hitting and resonating a C7 in full head voice (both are unavailable to the public), and many witnesses from many different sources claimed to hear her hit D7 many times. Whether or not you believe this, because she could hit Bb6 and B6 so easily, I wouldn't doubt that she could climb into the 7th octave and resonate there.
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Mado Robin could resonate high into the sixth octave, and while there is no video evidence, many claim that she could even reach notes in the seventh octave.
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THE ONE AND ONLY VOICE.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvonn6L2v4 I can't help falling in love with her voice ...