Davidholic8

Okay. I'll get back to you in a few days (it's a two-day flight). Maybe I won't find cracks in your cherry-picked videos, but you'll be able to hear them in my response! I love how people who stan Sohyang use the same clips over and over and over. We've seen these videos, boo. Get ready when I slam you with 30 years of clips. All that vocal experience will slay like it did that speaker system.

Why don't you show evidence? You expect me to give you evidence, but you provide none. Show me it isn't laggy, because it definitely is in her upper range. Especially her extreme upper range. Show me she can consistently belt in the sixth octave without shaking her head while sustaining the belt. Don't give the "visual effects" bs. Also, just look at any number of her 2013 performance, and watch them all the way through. She croaks a LOT. I really do have a flight to catch. I said I would give you some in a few days. Why don't you give some now, unless you wanna put another Beyoce gif, that's fine, too.

There's a reason Lee Sun Hee is considered the best singer in her native country. Seriously, educate yourself in both singers before talking and putting childish gifs. I've posted plenty of Lee Sun Hee videos in this thread already. In any case, LSH can sing in more styles, with more resonance, in all her registers, with more techniques than Sohyang can. It's a fact. She's developed in every one of her registers, not just two of them. Sohyang has a higher head voice, and she uses it more often, and I'm not saying it's bad, but it's not more resonant than LSH's, even if she can do dynamics in it. Sohyang as a better upper register, and I don't have a problem admitting it. I don't know why people (only on this site) have such a hard time admitting that Sohyang isn't overall as developed a singer as LSH. I'm not even bashing Sohyang. At all. So grow up and get over it.

I would show you, but I've got a flight to catch really soon, so maybe in a few days, okay? I'm not saying "oh, so superior," but as long as people write and say it's not superior (when frankly, not a single one of you really knows LSH's music or voice that well; you're simply stating your opinions based on a vague knowledge of LSH and an assumption that Sohyang is superior to everyone). Sohyang's extreme upper register is nowhere near as resonant as her middle register, and many of her higher notes have laggier vibrato and/or "visual effects" that are questionable. In any case, LSH has the same range as Sohyang; she just goes lower, and she has a better balance of resonance and ability in all her registers. It's just the plain truth.

Then, Sohyang really has no case. EDIT: It's important to have a balance of registers. Not just one overdeveloped register.

You're just wrong, so I don't see why you have to be uptight about it. I have no problem admitting that Sohyang can do more in her upper register. Just admit that LSH has a lower and mid register more advanced than Sohyang. And, seriously, don't bring up a dead topic then get angry when someone responds. It's just a little childish.

I'm sure I know LSH's music far better than you do. Her lower register is much better than you're making it out to be, that's for sure. I've seen EVERY single LSH performance posted on the Internet. I'm not even kidding. I've watched every one of them. More than once. Her upper register doesn't extend as far as Sohyang's, but it's just as/more resonant than Sohyang's is without "visual effects." And her mid-register >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sohyang's. Now move on.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, boo.

This is a clear case of someone not being able to accept that Sohyang just isn't as resonant. PERIOD. She's not. Get over it. It's a fact. She's not as resonant in all her registers, nor is she as resonant in everything she sings. Stop replying to dead topics. I'm glad to know you've surveyed the accuracy and ability of all South Korean music critics and know their scientific backgrounds. The truth of the matter is, no one's changing his/her mind, and this topic is already dead. I don't think anyone in this forum wants to go into another Sohyang debate.

Tarja has improved a looooooooooooooooooooot since her Nightwish days. Her voice is so rich and powerful and full and resonant, and she's branching out and doing a lot more classical pieces these days, too. Her ability to mix classical and contemporary styles is unsurpassed.

I wish she would come to North America, too, but I guess it ain't happening. She's soooo good.And you are soooo lucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xuF7fpaNk8 Tarjslay Turunen <3

Yeah, I know I'm not singing opera with decency. I mean relative to how I sing everything else for ME personally. I thought that was understood. LOL

It's possible. Trust me. Maybe I'm weird? I don't know. I sang a lot of opera during puberty, and now it's pretty much all I can sing with any type of decency.

Yes. :P Okay, I'll send them in a bit.

Sure, it's just my opinion. I just say things with confidence. LOL Sure, I can send you some clips. I'm not going to say they're that good, lol. I have pitch issues galore, but the range is there, nonetheless. I've never had vocal training. I feel much more comfortable in the upper register than the lower register (or the mid register), so I'd say my tessitura is somewhere from about F3~D6 (maybe C#6).

Queen Slay-hee 갈바람

Why is it funny how I say that? Someone stated an opinion about a genre of music he/she truly can't critique and presented it as fact. I stated my own opinion and stated it as an opinion with a few side bits of evidence. There's a difference. I won't pretend like I know anything about Korean traditional music, but I will say that hearing the same songs LSH has performed traditionally (live) versus those of other singers, the techniques are the exact same. And I will say she performed in a traditional opera, held a traditional concert, and even had a vocal coach and studied the genre and performed it in on the side for years. Going against all of this with one's own personal opinion (against a studio recording, at that) really doesn't make sense, so I said so. EDIT: I also didn't act like that just because I watched Asian cultural stuff I knew the specificities of Korean tradtional music and techniques.

Bye.

I listen to a lot of cultural music, too, so that's invalid. That doesn't make you a critic, and you can't predict what critics would say. Sun-hee is a pop singer who did exceptionally well in the traditional genre and even went on a traditional tour and had a vocal coach. And she performed in a tradtional opera. You're trying to critique a studio performance where the sound is altered to fit whatever they wanted to achieve. Critics love Lee Sun-hee and call her the best singer in South Korea, so your opinions are just opinions.

There was nothing wrong with this performance. As you aren't an expert on Korean traditional singing styles, I can't take your opinion seriously. There is much depth in this sound, especially for someone who was so young when it was recorded. By the way, it was a studio performance, so I'm sure it was perfected. It sounds exactly how they wanted it to sound. And the studio does remove a lot of Sun-hee's heaviness and vibrato for a more commercial sound.

Does it have any particular purpose, or is this off-topic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB5WbiUIRL8 Queen Slay-hee

Seriously, people here bring something up, get mad when it's commented on; the issue is dead, then it's brought back up, and the one who tries to end it in a conciliatory manner is downvoted and scorned. Seriously messed up.

I'm done discussing Sohyang. Everyone can just think what they want. The reality is there regardless of opinion and regardless of who's right and wrong.