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  1. Light up the Darkness (my first song of theirs), Fantasy, Love me Do, Voodoo, Error, Eternity, G8U (the only "cute" concept thus far I like of theirs), Secret Night (Ravi's thirst yo). Those are my main jams. Chained up had to grow on me, but now that it has....

     

    I am Vixx trash

     

    I finished rewatching mydol yesterday.

    THEY'RE SUCH FETSUSES, IT WAS A 360 COMAPRED TO THEIR FANTASY VIDEO WHICH I WATCHED RIGHT AFTER.

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    That juxtaposition lol. I love rewatching mydol XD

  2. So another idol which i don't understand where the bi is coming from??? Like where do you see anything bi in Jaejoong, Jonghyun, Sehun, Tao, Baekhyun, Key, Heechul, Jimin, Jhope,.... like really where and why and how lmao

    Only answer I can think of is: Delusion runs deep. Though for Jhope and Jimiin, I confess I don't know enough about them to think one way or the other. For Jae though, did you see the recent thread on Jaejoong "allegedly" having a girlfriend? I don't buy what that rumor is selling. But perhaps that has a hand in it, and the ex-girlfriend he had though? I, personally, don't see it though. For Tao and the others? i got nothing on why they're considered bi.

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  3. I agree, esp with VIXX using music as a tool. With the group, they are able to use that as a way of bringing out more of what they want to convey, which is raw emotion that isn't always fully brought out to the outside world. Same with dark concepts being their forte (not that their lighter concepts aren't inferior or anything. It's just that the boys really flourish with darker themes.) Plus sometimes, it makes you wonder how they can almost always excute such concepts beautifully each time!

     

    I completely respect your other viewpoints, as well. ^_^

    Oh for sure. Their lighter concepts aren't bad, I wont lie though, they aren't my cup of tea (save for Gr8u), but their lyrics still carry a strength to them and it can't be denied they're as good....just in a different way.

     

    Also, thank you XD. I always get worried about tone. It doesn't always convey well when in written form. :)

  4. You know....it took me a little while to come up with a solid opinion of Fantasy, especially because I was rather unsure of how I felt about the MV. But, I can finally say that I've found one:

     

    With the release of Fantasy, I can be confident when I say that VIXX is truely ahead of its time. The thing about VIXX is that whereas most groups show you their "signature style" with a variety of concepts....the boys don't necessarily do that. VIXX goes with a concept, and they delve deep into it. You know it's VIXX performing, but at the same time, they are able to take a concept that's either been done numerous times, or is rarely ever explored, and merge themselves into the essence of that same concept. They aspire to bring us, the audience, music in excelsis, and not only do they do that, but they transcend above whatever their competition does, and seemingly, with ease.

     

    Fantasy is a song that could've easily been a bunch of them dancing & just saying "is this real, is it fantasy, I can't help my emotions, blah blah blah...", but they don't do that. They open the door to the human psyche (hence the MV's door? :o), a dark part of it, and even with their choreography, it's almost as if they're able to transform their hurt and angst into emotionally-driven movements, like the pain is what's making them move the way they do. Plus, the booming sounds of the audio, mixed with the ominous, nerve-hitting vibe of the MV, perpetuates whatever is trying to be conveyed.

     

    TL;DR: I know this is a REALLY long comment, but there's something about VIXX that I couldn't even put my finger on, but it's that VIXX is a group that's way ahead of their time, and that whoever came up with their brand, didn't do so lightly. This is a group where image isn't just the sole priority, or even the music itself. But the emotions they bring to it. The transcendental properties they inject into their comebacks. THAT is what they're really bringing to the K-Pop game, and it's something that will rival new groups, and old.

    I agree with Vixx being ahead of it's time. But maybe for varying reasons (?), no disrespect meant first off, I do agree with much of what you say,  but if I may be allowed to add, Vixx is a group ahead of its time, precisely because they try new things. And that's as you stated. They don't stick to the status quo, they aren't afraid to delve dark whereas most Kpop idols stick to -as you mention-their signatures. Other idols/groups/ect, in my opinion find a sound/style that work for them and stick to it. That's it. Now don't get me wrong, those groups can still churn out good music, but all within their safe constraints.

     

    Vixx is a group too, that tries their hand at just about every style, even if (in my opinion) said style doesnt always work for them. They still give it a shot and mix up what they can given the "fluffier" beats. Now, I won't lie, I much prefer their dark concepts. That's, to me where their strength lies, in their ability to delve into the dark sides of your emotions/mind. They don't keep it all surface level shallow. How can they, when to get to a dark place, you first have to ponder what would make said character within the song, have such a twisted view, or warped sense of love?

     

    The emotions they bring to the forefront are critical to what makes them, them. But I would politely disagree: I think the music plays to the emotions. The music adds to the atmosphere and helps direct an emotional response. They use their music as a tool. Now take music out of the equation and the lyrics alone. 9xs out of 10, are enough to make one pause and contemplate. 

  5. watching fantasy mv is giving me chained up feels...like it could have been the first in the conception series lol.  

    I blame the scenes of N and Leo tied up. Lol, i got chained up vibes too. The choreo is intense, and rather slashy in places. Love Me Do has several as well..

  6. Do you guys think that Leo and Hongbin might have something going on in VIXX or is it just me? 

    I personally, do not think those two have anything going on. But....I'd love to hear what makes you think they do. Leo is difficult for me to peg, he's very stone faced and while he's opened up more in front of the camera, i can't say what's interest vs fanservice. Back to the topic of Hongbin and Leo possibly having a thing, I see it as friendship and more of a teasing back and forth with each other.

     

    Now Hakyeon on the other hand...

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    I think Jackson didn't wait for the part he becomes a girl.

    What show was this on? I want to watch this, is he seriously giving all the members a different day? I'd like to see if he expounds upon the "why". That being said, there's too much....I don't want to say 'suspicious" behaviors, but more blatant behavior of his to even think he'd be straight. Although blatant may be too strong a word. Idk.

     

    Consensus check: no one believes for a fraction of a second he's straight right?

     

     

    If you do....you may not know Jackson XD

  8. J-Hope is so confusing tbh. :derp:

    I can imagine him both with females and males, that's why I think he might be bissexual. He doesn't ping me too much but he still looks quite open minded and probably wouldn't mind to date a guy as long as he likes him. His reaction are often extremely exaggerated and it looks like he has that inner diva attitude. Not that straight guys can't be like that too, but just saying. Well, I don't follow bts that much.

    What do you think? 

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    Jhope's always struck me as open to experimenting. He doesnt peg me as necessarily bi or gay, but exploring what he is himself.  That sounds ridiculous, but there isn't an exact age where everyone just knows. Right now, he just seems like he's having fun being more expressive, and nothing really makes me think one way or the other bi or gay (or pann). i wouldn't be shocked if he were experimenting behind the scenes, but right now he just seems (to me and this is only my opinion) like he's having fun. Now that being said, I don't think he's "straight" either. I just don't know enough about him to really say "yes I think he's gay, bi, pann, straight, ect, and here's why".

     

    PS: I'm always worried my tone doesn't convey-so please don't think I'm looking for a fight or going "you're wrong". I did like your post. :)

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  9. He might. But if I were him, I would keep it up and let the fools fight it out and laugh about it with my friends. and also silently thanking the people who support who I was. of course, if he is actually what so many of us here believe him to be.

    Seeing as how this is more int fans blowing it up, he may not comment at all and will keep quiet. Though if it continues, and as it's continuing on his instagram no less, someone will translate it and it will become a "int fans causing drama again" and either way, I can't see Sehun not clarifying this at some point and throwing the "it was a joke" statement out. This whole thing needs to move off his instagram and go somewhere else to be fought out.

     

    It'd be nice to think of him just keeping quiet and laughing at other people's foolishness, but he doesn't strike me as the type who can just laugh it off. He strikes me as the type who would worry and stress over it all.

  10. im actually so worried when popular idols are being brave enough to say things like that, even as a "joke" - because usually fans are being so so extra and overhyped about it, no matter haters or supporters, and this is really unecessary.

     

    ppl @ his insta currently agruing and being extra as fuck, with debates and "no! he's not gay! he's straight! wtf!" or "yesss he came out pls support!!!!!" or certain shippers' comments. funny how it's mostly int fans though. im like can yall shut the fuck up and keep your intense discussions somewhere but not on his instagram.... he's gonna deactivate someday, seriously. better for him, though.

     

    this hype is unecessary as fuck and if he's aware about this, it makes me think he already regretted what he said like ten times already. and the next time, he will think a lot more before saying stuff like that, even if he wants to. i hope it's not like that.

    Pretty sure it's those actions that really help give knetz a bad reputation of int. fans. I'm not saying it's right, but if we want a different perception, causing drama on his instagram, as you said, isn't the place. Aside, and more importantly than that, it's very disrespectful. I wouldnt be shocked if he kept quiet for a bit before either making some public "it was a joke" thing, or just as quietely deleting his instagram. I'm not a Sehun stan, but this is just...so wrong. Whether he is or isn't, give the guy space, keep the drama off the instagram and keep the discussion of "is he/isn't he" discreet. 

  11. Thanks for chiming in about how it may look bad, in their culture and especially in their industry they really have no other choice except to go for a massive no homo before enlistment. If I was in their situation I would do the same, and it's also why I'm personally sure that if out of the few people I think could come out in the future if they want, none will do so until they're completed their military service.

     

    I'd always sort of wondered about EunHae, but since I was never really part of the fan community I'd always brushed it off as myself reading too much into things/projecting.

    That message though wtf Donghae??? 

     

     

    YIKES I didn't know about Siwon tweeting anything homophobic but at the same time I'm not really surprised. Especially when he's always seemed Yes Homo when it comes to fanservice.

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    *squints suspiciously* ok then

     

    Siwon is certainly a special breed. I don't know if it's self hate, or if he really is just that much of a dick. Either way though, he's made it blatantly clear that he's quite homophobic. But if he wants to be that religious, fine-but then don't be a hypocrite and do all that fan-service (above and beyond really) and then turn it back around on everyone else. Like how could we possibly think he's gay?

     

    Anyone here think heechul's given him the memo about his sexuality? Hell, maybe that's half the reason he always brings up religion around Heechul-not just to "save his soul" because he's an atheist, but a gay one at that.

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  12. He's even worse than the "no homo"- he's being super extra- not just fans "think" or "gaydar"- but being over the top with intentionally homoerotic fanservice (even after his bible-thumping tweet) and then basically shaming fans for thinking homosexuality is okay.   

    He's a special brand of denial. The hypocritical, self serving kind, do it when it pleases my agenda. I wonder though...has he found Narnia yet?

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  13. Its just too stupid when they push their 'friendship' and love like they did,  then try to deny it and ask people to stop thinking of them as gay when they entered the service.  Was like a big slap

    True. They knew what they were doing, how they were 'marketing' themselves..and that is pretty.....well....low. It was a tawdry blow.

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  14. I gave up on them when they went all ''no homo'' before the service

    Me thinks they doth protest too much. Though in all seriousness it's never cool when the "no homo" comes up. I'm sorry, but who are they trying to hard to convince? If you're straight. Cool. Bi? cool. Gay? Cool. but the whole "no homo" thing to me was a "we're manly men". Siwon's done it how many times now? And I still aint convinced. I just think he's a closeted a**.

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  15. I don't understand it either tbh. Call me bitter but I think that had Eunhae (and SJ in general) been younger and more active, people would be less dismissive when it comes to them. More than a decade of history can be too much to look up and analyze in one click if you haven't been there to witness it through the years. It doesn't help that most of it can be considered blatant fanservice though we can arguably say other idols do much more and yet people still find room for discussion and speculation. 

    I'm not saying this in the sense that I want everyone to believe "Eunhae is real and they will live happily ever after" but more in the sense of I don't see why we can't discuss the possibility of them or at least one of them *coughsdonghaecoughs* is genuinely attracted to the other without being easily dismissed as if it's all unrealistic because "nah it's just fanservice"

    Eunhae was close, no one can/should deny that. I do think they were together, in a sense. You don't have to be romantically inclined to still have something. What, more than friends, less than lovers? Isnt that they saying? Donghae doesn't seem the type to ever like being alone. Ever. Eunhyuk, when it came to Donghae, seemed so very patient and I think, in a way, was a good emotional support pillar from him.

     

    Personally, I don't think Eunhyuk is gay. I do see him as straight, but I think he was open/willing to be close with Donghae (bi then, with a preference for girls?).

     

    Donghae though? I'm torn between gay, or pan.

  16. I haven't seen enough of them together to really have an opinion, but I'm rooting for Sandeul personally lol.  

     

    But the vid is a good example where Ken is kind of cautious and visibly anxious of physical affection.  He's the youngest of three boys and he describes his mother as full of aegyo, but maybe they weren't an extremely physically affectionate family.  I think it's kind of true for Vixx too, like they don't exaggerate physical stuff- if it wasn't for Ravi being so cuddly and even Leo lately, they don't do a lot of skinship for fanservice.

     

    I'm curious what makes ppl think he's pan/bi/or gay- I have my general feel he is but don't feel like I have *HARD PROOF* lol.

     

    SAMEEE, I was a fan back during 2007 and the shippers were crazzzzy.  I personally never felt much from them- even if just because Yunho is too strict with following the rules, never falling out of line, etc. that I could never see him having an open relationship outside of traditional marriage and perfect 2.5 kids.  If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't be surprised if he was gay and dating, but I don't think he would "let" himself be anything other than society approved.  Repressed, heck yes, but don't expect him to ever date men for real.  

     

    Jaejoong, pleasssse be bi (or gay) just because I feel bad for his guy friends lol.  He just oozes sex appeal in an innocent way (and overload when he does it on purpose), but I could see him making his straight friends frustrated.  Actually, I think he's pan and doesn't matter what gender he falls for.

    Yunho strikes me as someone who doesn't like letting down anyone he loves, and he loves his family, So, sadly, I do think he'd repress/deny himself to be-as you said-what society approved. However, just because he may never be open with his sexuality, I don't think means he's never allowed himself to mingle with the same sex, or even date the same sex. I personally just think, that whomever he may have been with, has to know he will never be comfortable being out, not just to society, but to his family. That being said, to someone's earlier statement: Yes. Delusional shippers ruined Yunjae, not in the sense of it possibly not being real, but that...they really did that ship far more harm then good. I think some/most of the worst delulu shippers were just yaoi fangirls and didn't consider it being "real" outside of the realm of fantasy and "dont they look hot together omg" :derp: They had a great deal to do with many people, from then on, discrediting anyone who believed Yunjae were a real thing, and were calm about it.They made it all twist into one big yaoi fangirl joke. IMHO however, you can't fake that level of closeness/skinship/connection without something real being between you. So, yes. I still do think Yunjae were a thing. Together now? No. I don't believe so.

     

    As for Jaejoong: If he's making any of his "straight" friends curious, they weren't wholly straight lol, but there is a charisma about him. As for being pan...possibly, but I do think that if pann-he's still got more of a preference for men. I hesitate to call it "Bi" as he'd still be relying more on emotional/romantic connection.

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  17. I know, he's such a cute and shy fluffbal, I love his personality.

     

    Hongbin is that I just have proof of him liking men asses and things like that and not of liking women but I'll dig through their interviews and I'll see if I find something.

     

    At 2:36 he covers his eyes but lets a gap to look at Boom's butt  :happy:

     

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    Don't Ken and N look too relaxed? :hurr:

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    And a little bit of Kenvi (or better, one-sided Ravi). To illustrate why I think he may be pan.

     

    Take a look at Ravi's stare, he's thirsty, and not for the cake.

     

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    Starlights died this day:

     

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    Earlobes are one of men sexual spots

     

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    I;m sorry, I had better replies, but it all died when I saw the last gif of kenvi lying down. Ken reminds me of those asshole cats when all the other person wants to do, is sleep lmao.

     

    Seriously though, the stuff about Honbin eying butts, no lie has been detected. Whether he's staring for true interest sake, or playing it up for the camera, I don't know. But it is interesting to note and puts him on the fence again ( gay/bi debate for him is back open lol).

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  18. No question about N...but I feel like he could go either way when you see him dancing with girls or the infamous kiss scene in brian's mv...but definitely leaning more towards gay the rest of the time lol.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCieTB5DWZQ

     

    Do yall remember seeing the ***SCANDAL*** N pic with his boyfriend- Feeldog from Bigstar a few months ago???  Turned out it was just mistranslation, but I still want that pic of N and Feeldog!  Anyone still have it?  I personally could see them together because of their mutual love of waacking lol.

     

    Definitely agree with the rest of your list too.  

     

    Hongbin definitely comes across as very boyish...but you can't go back after you've seen the vid of him just looking at a pic of Park Hyo Shin.  

     

     

     

    or all the times he mentions him...like all the time.  (next posts quoted from vixx thread from 2014...i'm sure there's tons more since lol)

    With N, I feel that's his professionalism, more than any real attraction towards females. He's nothing if not a dancer at heart

     

    Lol maybe Hongbin's just Park Hyo Shin sexual? :). Though I will admit, he wigs out so much whenever Hyo Shin comes up, ,it's adorable to see him fanboy.

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    "yunjae wasn't real"

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    Yunjae "wasn't" real, Nope. Delusional.

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    Please. Lol. If none of that was real, someone give them an Academy award. There's only so much "skinship" you can do before it gets excessive and becomes a veil to hide behind (for those that use skinship as a defense).

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  20. Well, I'm aware of it. The only thing I wanted to know is if it's true that people with high-functioning autism are generally quite smart. I still remember when some years ago there was like an "awarness boom" regarding high-functioning autism and CEOs, executives,etc wanted to get "tested" for it to then boast about how smart they were.  :soul:  One of the many instances when people make something bad out of something good (from more awarness and understanding that people with this type of autism aren't handicapped to egocentric morons using it for their selfish needs)........tough maybe it helped in a good sense, I don't know....I don't know anyone with autism (or at least aware/diagnosed that they have it)

     

     

    Leo, I don't have "proof", he just gives me that vibe. But as for Ravi, his crush on Ken is really obvious AS WELL AS wanting to have something with Ken in real life. But maybe this just means that he's pan and doesn't give a pepper about gender.  :ahmagah:  I actually think pan goes better with Ravi.

    To say the truth, when I first got to know VIXX I thought Ravi was straight and even though he was my bias (so I watched him closely  :hurr: ) I never got pan vibes from him until 2 years ago. 

     

    Hongbin: I always thought he was bi until recently. Honestly, I've only seen him "liking" men but it's just my personal guess.

     

    N: yep, most probably gay. I put the bi option just in case, because with him I just guide myself by his feminine personality, so I wanted to give some room for the possibility of being effeminate but liking women as well.

    Lol the day anyone finds any "proof" for Leo-be it a straight relationship or anything else-i will want receipts lol. He strikes me as being very private, at this moment in time I'm leaning towards Leo being straight, but I'm open to hearing otherwise. He gets so flustered so easily-that male or female, he seems to just shrivel up :).

    With Ravi: I do see him as being straight, but then, I can concede that he could be Pan, I will have to pay more attention, because really I've only noticed the attention on Hongbin he has (fanservice most likely lol)

     

    Hongbin: Do you have any clips or interview clips? Right now, I think Bi, but i'm curious to know more of what led to what convinced you.

  21. Why are you downvoted? You didn't write anything bad  :wut:

     

    In spoiler since it isn't "gay talk"

     

     

    You're refering to autism right? Some time ago I talked with a fan who has autism and said Leo's behaviour is exactly that of someone with some level of autism.

     

    I personally never paid attention or thought about  it because to me Leo it's just Leo, the introverted and shy fluffball I love so much. Autism or not I love his personality and he's a stan attractor. 

    If he has some level of autism doesn't it also mean that he's highly intelligent?

     

    And as for Jongup, I think he's more on the "real introverted" side. He's just shy in interviews, shows or when he has to talk but for the rest of the time he knows how to put his hyungs in a bind and a lot of times has awesome comebacks. He even hits Himchan if it's needed   :har:.  Jongup is like Yongguk and Zelo: quite, calm and private (though he's a little more private, wich being an idol I find it's necessary) while Daehyun, Youngjae and Himchan are loud, talkative and love to tease each other.

     

    But if he had some form of mental problem I wouldn't care anyways, that doesn't change anything in my eyes.

     

     

     

    And BTW who do you think are gay/bi in VIXX? 

     

    I think:

     

    N: gay/bi

    Leo: gay/bi

    Hongbin: gay

    Ravi: bi

    Ken: gay but maybe bi.

    Hyuk: I think he's straight but some rumors want to prove me wrong  :ninja:  Supposedly he could be gay

    Lol is N even someone people need debate about? I agree, he's the horse I'd bet on for being gay.

     

    I'm curious though, what makes you suspect Leo and Ravi? No attack here, just genuinely curious.

     

    Hongbin strikes me as Bi (personally)

    Hyuk-straight

    Ken- Bi/Pann 

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