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this thread has phases. right now it's in the active phase. I hate when people hate on Changmin because of his geese comment. I agree with everything you say. Again agree with you about the whole lawsuit initiation thing. I do think when it all started, it wasn't meant to go as far as it went. It just built up to that. Also, absolutely parents played a big role imo. And nothing against them for that. I mean I am about the same age as DBSK when the lawsuit happened and I discuss everything with my own parents and ask about their opinion before I make a decision. So why wouldn't jyj or tvxq? after all they were thinking of making a life changing decision. If they wouldn't discuss it with their friends and family, who else would they go to? I am not sure how much part parents played but I am sure their opinions were well represented in the decision especially in Changmin's case who was very young to be making such a decision by himself. I am sure JYJ didn't take the final step without their parent's support either. I just think fans need to stop the hate on the parents for trying to do the best for their child and support them. Don't we all expect that from our own parents? Then why the double standard?

from what I remember it was a combination of things. JaeJoong and Yoochun were the first ones to question the money they were being paid. There were fanaccounts at that time of them getting out of the SM building while shouting at the SM employees (I don't know it they were managers or the accounting department or ceo) about them being shady and stuff. then when they couldn't get a proper response from SM, they sued. I don't know who made the decison and all to sue. I remember the JYJ lawyer saying that he was initially supposed to meet all five but only three came at the end. Someone from Avex said the same too...that five wanted to leave at first but only three did. Hence, that popular belief that TVXQ got blackmailed by SM. And then the mess got worse. when JYJ and SM didn't reach an agreement, they walked. I don't know who said what but after all the things I have read, I do believe JaeJoong was the key decision maker. Rest of course we will never know. I don't think anyone hates anyone. They have all moved on.

refer to the video above. JaeJoong clearly says he and Junsu made the decision. I think people forget that after all said and done, changmin was very much a child when the split happened. I don't mind him being angry. He would not be human if he wasn't. I think he was more hurt than angry. Despite what many fans think now, Changmin was much more closer to JYJ than Yunho. Them leaving must have hurt him. lol me and Lina were being more crass. She is a Yoochun bias and I am a one too...we have had too much blaming on Yoochun thing. the popular theory has been that Yoochun wanted to leave because he was getting drama offers and he needed the money to support his mother and brother who he had recently brought to Korea. He is seen as the calculating mind behind the whole thing. When this interview came out and it was actually not him...moreover seemed like JaeJoong asked him...it was just satisfying to see all those haters eat their words.

I have actually thought for the longest time it was JaeJoong. Idk if it was a fanmeet or another interview...I don't remember where...he thanked Junsu for trusting in him and stuff. And in this video, it is clear Yoochun was the last one to join. So that's the only possible conclusion. Honestly, I don't even remember my sources lots of time. It's lucky I remembered this video since I just made a gif-set from it. Sorry ^^

it's not that he was responsible. It's just seems like JaeJoong and Junsu were the ones who made the decision to leave SM. Yoochun followed them. at about @5:00. people especially YJ fans have always had this theory that Yoochun decided to walk first and JaeJoong/Junsu followed. I think it was just interesting to hear from JaeJoong how much it was his own decision.

where is this from?? why don't I know of this??!

imo some OT5s do dream of a full on reunion. like TVXQ leaving SM after their contract is over and joining CJeS and then, DBSK will be back and at the top of the kpop charts. believe me they exist -.- sometimes when I watch old videos, I do want to see them together on a show. seriously, can't idk running man do a TVXQ vs. JYJ...so we can get to see some of this....

personally, I honestly don't think they can work together any more as a group. JYJ is more concentrated on solo stuff...TVXQ is still more group oriented. If they get reunited, things would get much messier. the fandom is so divided. I believe that the hate is stronger than love for some. they will lose fans. also, it's not like they will be like old days. JYJ won't let go of their solo career to once again invest in the dbsk name. things just can't return to the way they were...I think fans will be more disappointed than happy that they reunited. I just don't see how things will work. for me, I think I will be cool if they could interact and still be friends. I don't need a reunion from them. I just want them to be on good terms with each other.

I actually laughed so hard that day when fandom learned that it was JaeJoong. All YunJae fans who had been hating on Yoochun/Junsu were left speechless. Not even gonna lie...it was fun.

lol. please. it's like when people blamed Yoochun and Junsu for the split and lo n behold the person turned out to be JaeJoong. like shut up already. we know nothing. also, people like to forget that JYJ actually did try to not split DBSK but just leave the company. They actually wanted to be one group still. But life isn't all roses...you can't have best of both worlds (despite what hannah montana will tell you)...the split was a consequence, not an intention. People need to remember that. just because yoochun doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve any more doesn't mean he doesn't have them. he has talked about a possibility of a reunion...like far into the future at a fanmeet in 2015. if I remember right, his words were..."thank you for supporting me as yoochun, jyj and even tvxq. we will meet again as JYJ and if it's okay, maybe even as five." If he didn't mean yunho and changmin...I don't know which other two people he talked about. lastly, do I even have to highlight changmin has talked about jyj post-split esp yoochun. anyone remember that talk show where changmin talked about a knitted scarf?? who do you think it was about?? everyone knows it was yoochun given that dbsk has told this story before the split. but okay. whatever.

my most attractive Changmin moment is that smirk in Wrong Number. /dead

lmao same. I just love when he says sarangeyo at the end. I melted.

I love you is gold. I ADORE ADORE ADORE this song. he usually is known for his high notes so I like to see his other side.

Changmin's and JaeJoong's voices will go very well together if they ever decide to do a collab. Hard and soft. It surprising though as much as I love rock, A person like tears will forever remain my favorite solo from Changmin.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uS_iAxGhIk

I see that Addicted cast gif

I really love this gif...can someone link me to the video? It feels like one of the videos that mysteriously disappeared from everywhere after the split -.- lol Changmin was so kind to jaejoong. bad jaejoong...hitting the maknae...bad bad!!

I am just a little soft I guess. I resolve to be a better acgae from on!! Kim JaeJoong ftw!!!

it was jaemin but constantly through the years its been jaechun thing. I just wanted to make an edit of it from the earliest I could find a decent video of...to the latest :3 I should do one for homin too. I suck at non-jaejoong edits. I am such an acgae.

‘As expected…we are perfect’

I know what you mean...I do that too. It's not that I hate it. I just can't listen to it without a feeling of void inside me for some reason.

nice to know I am not the only one...

so I am just curious. I can't listen to dbsk's Stand by You and Hug after the split. Does anyone else have songs that they can't listen to for whatever reason since the split??!

Junsu is probably feeling alone. I mean even if they were busy with individual stuff...but Junsu is close to only limited people. He isn't a social butterfly like JaeJoong or total recluse like Yoochun...he probably wants someone to hang out with or just discuss music. Must be lonely...

btw guys, if I sell my reliance shares....I will have money to buy SM shares. lol I almost wanna do it.

agree. so basically they get nothing out of those stocks. nice to know. lol I was surprised too...but I don't really know much about how retirement pension really work in Korea to comment about it. According to Wikipedia, "South Korea's National Pension Service (NPS), which oversees $430 billion in assets, were looking to buy a portfolio of blue-chip stocks from emerging markets" I guess they know what they are doing. After all, Hallyu Wave did grown significantly and is still growing...it's not a bad investment for the time.