Empress

3-5 years idk he's been there the longest out of everyone.

I feel like after a group gets popular he just doesn't care about improving their talents anymore. SM is so systematic that they always make sure their vocalists are improving.

No what he needs to do is pick good vocalists to begin with, not people without natural talent that need to be trained.

But i mean Team B's vocals are no better though, i mean it should have just been a rapping and dancing competition. YG's inability to pick good vocalists is astounding.

Well he wasn't stable to begin with, so i don't understand why YG would even allow him to sing in a competition. Wow i get being tonedeaf but forgetting the lyrics when you can't even sing to begin with is a no no.

At least we all knew the boy couldn't carry a tune, so no surprise that he would fuck it up. Well it's about time YG switched members around.

How bad was he? like can't carry a damn tune bad or typical face of the group bad?

Lol nowhere to be seen, I don't get how dara missed the fashion show. Plus where are the rest of the members.

OR.... he wil turn out be like Key. Saying whatever the fuck he wants just because he thinks he is fabulous. Team A members give off this i'm a superstar vibe, i just don't sense that rookie thing from them. Maybe it's because KSY and LSH have been in the spotlight. Mino just doesn't seem like one either and Taehyun is a diva even before stepping foot on a stage. Jinwoo yeah.......

See i get KSY having an attitude since he will still have a career after this. Now little Diva Taehyun needs to get it together and understand if he can't make it work, then everyone else loses. Taehyun also needs to toughen up and understand if he can't handle a little criticism, then idol world isn't for him. Then again maybe YG shows their non-team work side, because adds some realistic factor to the show, because people can actually see that they're individuals and not just robots put together.They actually define what YG is about minus having a good leader part. I hope they get their stuff together and win, i want to see what kind of music they do. I have feeling they will be an unpredictable group that could either go hip hop or pop.

I don't know i still don't get that 'we're in this together vibe from Team A, compared to Team B'. Plus it's YG's fault that KSY is promoting, i mean he knows the boy has a show to do and still puts his music out.

They might be doing great and winning but let's face it. They will forever be ridiculed for their lack of talent and having BI and Bobby carry the whole group. If that team has to debut YG might as well make it an 11 member group to hide their vocals.

I feel like Team A will be just like Bigbang when they debut. Do a little choreo here and there then just stop. I think we will have to accept that Team A is fucked up in terms of Team work and just hope they will work on it after they debut. Plus Those members needs to suck it up and deal with it. Mino is clearly a good addition considering they have jinwoo who lacks just about everything. Their credibility goes up by having mino who actually writes his stuff and has shown that he isn't just an idol rapper. So all of them need to get it together and stop with their attitude about mino. if they really wanted to do something positive for the team, not just hate on mino when he starts leading. They would have told taehyun and his diva attitude to go sit in a corner or help jinwoo get his act together. They need to get their priorities straight, it's not about what they prefer it's what's going to be good for the team. I don't think they actually get that at this point it isn't about who's been here the longest, It's about how they can work together in the future. If they keep up this mentality they might as well quit and hand the win to Team BI and Bobby.

I'm guessing jinwhan is the chipmunk, But that little boy has no room to be giving anyone vocal advise. Those other three define mediocre and nothing other than years at YG will help improve those vocals. Team A's vocalists are more than ready, but the problem with the team is that they're doing the best for themselves. You all have to understand this is it for them, they're old and won't go back to training. Team B can still go back and practice more or getting picked up by another company easily, because they're young.

Yes they can improve, but people lets stop and be realistic for a second. This show is a ten week show and unless they get some magic. Those vocals are not going to improve in what is now a 7 week time frame. Team B needs more time to drop and add vocalists and this is not the time.

I guess you're right, But if we are talking about impact though, BI clearly wins over LSH. I think LSH just like the rest of his team, knows how to do choreo for just himself. BI on the other hand might be copying, but he knows how to make it work for the rest of his team. If LSH was that good at choreographing for a team they would do better. Team A just needs to lose that i'm going to be famous all by my damn self mentality. It's like they're thinking if i do well on my part, then we're going to win. They need to get together and stop thinking about winning and just have fun with it.

I think YG saw something special in him that we apparently can't see. YG is always lost in his own hype, trying to make people believe that shit is there when it clearly isn't. Like i seriously try to see it for the boy talent wise but i can't, no charisma, no vocals, no dancing, Just a face. I will say he is cuter than all of the other members, because everyone else looks rough. At least YG made one bad decision with vocals in Team A unlike Team B. Because i literally start laughing every time their main vocal chipmunk starts singing. Why are people hating on Taehyun and his hair though? I predict he will be a future fashionista diva. Why do people want him to look like the typical boy group member with that beiber swoop bang.

Are we watching the Same Team B, because BI is literally the greatest example of a leader. Even Bobby himself said they wouldn't have come this far, if it wasn't for BI. Their team work is all because of his ability to be a leader. You don't see any of the other kids having an input in choreo or even writing their own lyrics. He litreally arranges their choreo and puts the members where he wants, you don't see Team A doing that. That's why Team B's choreo always looks better than Team A BI is the epitome of a leader and it's impressive at his young age. No wonder YG and GD favor him so much. Even if you don't like Team B you can't deny that he's damn good as a leader.

Like i literally don't get how jinwoo has made it past all the evaluations for all these years. YG criticizes him in every way,yet he keeps him. I would understand him being in the group if we are talking about an 11 member groups, but not in a 5 member group where his lack of talent in singing and dancing is clearly visible. Then again maybe YG thought he got another dara, because of his visuals. Maybe he will be the one to bring in them CFs in the future and Diva Taehyun can be a variety Queen. It's too late to kick him out now, after he spent all that time in YG.

This show is what Team A needs to get stronger, Plus it's not like YG and Team A are oblivious to the fact that they're not that cohesive. The thing with YG is that all their groups thrive because of having strong leaders. Look at Team B they do well because, BI is literally a GD clone with his leadership skills, he whips those younger ones into shape just like that. That's what Team A lacks, they're not listening to mino because he's just a recent addition to the team. Especially diva taehyun who is a diva in every sense. They seem to be getting stronger though and losing to Team B will make them even stronger. The two groups lack something they that will need to work on.For Team A they can to build team work as they go, but Team B cannot magically develop good vocals, unless they continue training. So Team A is the most ready. YG only fucked up in letting BI and Bobby get stuck with those other kids, they're literally a GD and Top that would make a great duo. He should just debut them as a duo after Team A debuts. Like seriously it's annoying that will have to go back to training because the rest of the Team lacks vocal talent.

Team A is a strong group they just need more team work. They have KSY and mino who are already beyond talented as it is. The other three just need to improve as they go plus LSH is already a great dancer. The only weak link is jinwoo which every group has, some more than others. Plus YG is not out here trying to create a literal teams like SM. He's molding Team A to be individuals, just like BB. Starting with KSY and mino who could easily go solo. The strength of Team A lies in them being individuals and that's also their weakness because it's harder for them to work as a team. They will get used to it as they go and work on it. At least YG is showing you what the deal is and not debuting a group that acts like they're all in this together when that shit is far from the truth.

Why does Team A keep getting their ass whooped by those little kids. I mean i get that it's okay to do well but clearly YG is looking for fun people. Like people who can have fun doing what they say they desire to do and Team B pulls that off effortlessly, too bad talent level is at it's bare minimum. I just don't get how YG seriously chose Team B vocalists, none of them are even bearable. Chipmunk voice is funny to watch, The only members that actually have stand out talent are Bobby and BI.This whole Team thing is just a mess because even if Team A is ready they lack team work and presence. Either way they should debut first anyways and become brighter characters like Team B. What if the individual teams lose and embarrass YG during the competition next ep and he mixes the team aces up to form a new team,that would be awesome.

I have a feeling that jennie is a studio singer, who only sounds good in the studio and when singing live falls flat. I mean i could be wrong but who knows.

Team A will be a very unstable group if they do debut, their team work is non existent. They don't seem cohesive and mino doesn't seem like leader material. Then again even if Team B is more of a team they lack enough talent to even be a bearable midly talented group. BI and Bobby need to debut as a duo first then YG can create a group of new talented vocalists around them. It would be a waste to go back to training when they're ready.

It would be more of a shock if it wasn't. I actually want a park bom single instead, she does a fantastic job at creating hype for the group, or maybe a ballad to revive the hype and they can finally start slaying again.