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Thanksssss senpai for the info. Tho this upsets me more than anything. I need some time alone to process how fucking shittier YG can get treating Winner like a back up plan.

It's a shame some people can't even read a whole post and missed the whole point. Anyways I'm not wasting time explaining bullshit I don't concern myself with so yeah. The V app thing announcement on 3 groups will be done today so hopefully WOT5 <3 Finger crossed.

Last quote because I want to make it clear There was an agreement before, not a rule. We've done so well in the last year becoz the thread is a peaceful place with the agreement that we keep everything Ikon in Ikon thread or some go make a separate thread. It isnt our fault you don't know it. I am surprised when I come back and the talk still drags on and nobody want to compromise. Now spoiler You need to realize this is the reason why the agreement was made back then. 3-4 pages of this shitty argument.

Ok this thread is far from what it used to be and I know some of you are new so you probably missed what we've agreed on earlier regarding the winner-ikon talk. Since the talk could get heated and no side is gonna sit still, we prefer to not talk about ikon in this thread. (It has happened multiple times before). How is it different when talking about other groups w Winner? Other groups were not in Win, other groups werent fighting for a debut spot with 2 fandoms pitting against each other. You guys all know the history so well and decide to skip it is just as unreasonable. It's not just our part, our k-fandom part is only Winner and we work very well. If you're an ikon stan also, its best to do a joint thread. In my honest opinion, there is no OT12. Theyre 2 different groups and Ikon is now different frm Win anyway, you don't group FT island and Cnblue together into one group tho? We are not EXO. Im not here to stan Ikon and i fought to make 23102013 happened so I and many other at least want to keep the meaning of Winner name. I have no filter for this, this might be the only time I explain this sensitive issue to you since it seems like some of you try to not get it and do not even want to listen to our reasons. Please kindly create another thread so we all are good. Anyways @Nancy i still dont know the streaming yet, coz i rmb we need korean vpn ill let you know once i figure it out :D

Yassss I have some time tonight so I just wanna say I loveeeeee the idea of Mino x Zico x Palo however I dont have any words to describe about YG team winning over AOMG lol. Anyways fuck that buy one get one free package deal and I hope its not what it is on poster coz who the fuck come up with the fucking idea of all them bunch up together, they are not a team and ikon is completely different from their WIN era and Winner fans are not Ikon fans and vice versa so them being there promoting together is fucking stupid and fight me on this, coz I'm ready to shred a new one if its true. We want to fucking move on from WIN, I hope we can, with that said, YG needs to fucking move on from WIN first. And no, I don't want to spoiler this. Today, of all day, we get a pic of OT5, should be our happiest day in a while and this shitty news ruined my day. Currently researching on streaming again coz I need to prep myself for Friday buying ZiPal's team songgg T_T

THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF PRIVATE I IMAGINED OMFG

I ammmm fucking proud of Mino you don't know how proud I am bye

I AM VERY CALM FUCKING 2740

Holyshit you sound like you know all my shit ur scary =.= Anyways hii, i've been more on twitter than here coz basically im busy at work and theres not much to spazz anyways lol. I sort of have a blur memory about you haha. Anyways posting to show off my new siggy it's been so long since i last changed one.

Yuuki this is not how you greet your senpai. Bow down! LOL I was messing around but im a nugu. Last username was "fwee" though but i dont think u rmb. Anyways I'm back as a leader of MinoProtectionSquad and back for Taehyun's drama and Yoon's drama

Hello I'm new nice to meet all of u bye

Shouldn't they go by standard financial year? So April?

Unnies Sign me up!

Oh great im here just in time for YG apologist. By the way, I don't expect them to come out with a full length album anymore, they can do minis just fine i have no problem with that, and it would hurt my pocket much less too! But thats only ok if we get a full on proper Korean promo. Dont try to come at me with the "Yg spent shit lots of money on Winner stuffs" coz didn't you hear the boys apologize for not doing any promo in Korea? And Taehyun personally applogizes at least 3 times til now, and Hoon specifically said yesterday was their first real big activity in their fucking homeland which shouldve been the fucking priority. Pls don't bring other group in here, let this be about Winner and InnerCircle. I barely come here now just because I want to avoid fanwar tbh. But let us have the full thread only about Winner. Thanks.

Dropping by to say Happy Buffday to Smelly Yoon. Dropping out.

Merry Xmas guysss <3 My 2nd Xmas with Incles <3

I did not write that specifically for you though. It's for everyone else who's been rambling about us who actually are getting stuff done. It's true, some of us are hardcore, and that's why we (supposedly) know much more on the dirts than you (casual fan) ever will, just like when I was a VIP from 2006 til 2010, all the shit YG pulled on k-VIPs I knew full well. Imagine if social media had been more popular back in the days? Same thing would happen tbh. It's ok to enjoy Winner, come by, look them up, admire them, but for those stuffs to be there for you to enjoy, a big part of it is from the Inner Circle fandom effort, so don't make us look like whiny little 5 year old asses who whine because we didn't get our wanted toys. The lack of Winner articles on Korean press is astounding, you can barely see any articles about them on front page, we can't help the boys on that, it's gotta come from YG and we know we would never get it, so whatever we can do we would make sure we get it. Just like that useless Mama poll, we knew it was nothing, but it's in our hands, we could control it, so we made every effort to do our best. Tho I still think it's useless. It's a war. People's been mistaking it as a iKon-Winner war, but it's actually an Inner Circle vs YG war. If you're in this for the fun, it's totally fine, just leave us do the socalled whining job so we could have more fun together otherwise we would get nothing from YG .

While you are focusing too much on a tiny dot without even looking at the bigger picture. Even 2NE1 was promoted much hecka more than Winner is, and they debuted in 2009, when KPOP was still at the top of the game and the market was not even this saturated. Now stop whining about us whining for a second and think about it ? YG took exactly 18 hours to put up one of their music show performances, did you know what happened during that 18 hours? we fucking shut down his email system asking for that shit. And he finally uploaded it nearly a day after, whereas he could not even wait a single second for any of his other act. Even CL's SIA perf was uploaded late for 2-3hrs after the show, you know what happened to Winner's video? 12 hours later! You want receipt? I give you receipt. The shit he pulled on us is so much more than what I can think of at the top of my head now, but I expect casual fan or YGstans to not get it. It's ok, just stop putting words in our mouths and whining about us whining, coz it's not like we would stop and because of our effort to do all these that we actually get this much today. Don't say stuff like you know all the stuff. I may sound angry, but it's just me speaking out what I've been wanting to say. Get it or not, it depends on you. *Note about the part that he invested heavily in them, because their ROI is high, and with bare minimal investment he could get back double triple the amount. I could write a whole paragraph on how the New York trips, the supposedly brand name clothings are nothing, but its for another day.

My bulldog named Mino .....

Y'all better prep ur heart for WINNER not attending MAMA instead you fools.

No one can stop these 2

this is awesome lol this is Voteception.

I COME BACK JUST TO SAY I LOVE UR SIGGY JINWOO IS THE LITTLE SHIT OK BYE

By the way. Some rude Taehyun http://instagram.com/p/unkZo6iIsE/

Becoz I think we need to purify this place. It's been polluted I see. So heres some cutie Hoon