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for kyu, he at least admit to have relationship before he debuted so I like his honesty that time. but tbh, I kinda get it if he actually never date officially, cuz first kiss =/= dating. I mean his dad is pretty strict and back then all he did was gaming and all. even up until now he still hang out with only guys. ofc I really didn't know his personal life but IMO, I can believe if he said he never date. for me he is like a type of guy who marries his games in younger days. unlike now when he rarely gaming. so I think kyu sensed how society thinks it's absurd for an idol or celeb, a good looking one at that, never date. to me kyu is different though. he's basically a geek. smart ppl who is into games. I learn by ppl around me that ppl who addicted to games comfortable by not having relationships p/s : just my two cents. cuz I don't necessarily believe what idols said.whether they're dating or not. we could never really find out the truth. for me, I could believe the opposite way. that kyu actually never date.

I think you'll find it if you're really go through. as for me, I'm a bit lazy to do that lol. well Korean articles even wrote about seokyu's mic incident during tmtets presscon, when the label on the mic fell off when seo was about to receive the mic from kyu..then kyu fixed it back. this moment was captured and being written as an article. so my thought was seokyu is easily bcome public attention even for the most little thing lol. so even for small things they do bcome an article, I'm not surprised if there's more than we already knew. I believed those who said seokyu articles being taken down

there actually tons of moments of seokyu that came to me as obvious. but I really can't choose my fav ones. I guess it was just too many. what I'm upset was when I saw suspicious Korean articles talking about seokyu but I couldn't understand anything except for the headlines mentioning their name. I used to follow sj fansites where I saw bunch of Korean articles talking about sj relationships. the articles were there but no one bother to translate it. I remembered seeing an article talking about hyuk x i*u dating way bfore their scandals blown off. there were pics of them walking with each other at an award show and hyuk tapping her head. just when I didn't think much, two years later their selca revealed 'accidentally'. so then I realised that those articles I have read might have some truth in it. for seokyu, I saw an article from their moments at SMA 2011 where kyu wanted to give a bouquet of flowers to snsd and the other snsd members seemed like they were teasing seokyu cuz kyu was smiling and seo hide behind yoo*Na like she was shy or something. it happened all in one pic used by the article. idk what they wrote but it was definitely about seokyu judging from the pic and title. and I recall when some ppl said that seokyu articles being taken down after 2013 rs episode, so idk why it had to be like that

well we don't know. it might be true so what's with the sighing lol? anyway another tweet coincidence about seokyu was when it was kyu's bday and he tweeted when he was in India for Fluttering India show. Fans in Korea was so worried about kyuline's health in India and knet commented on his tweet saying he should take care of his health, be healthy and so on. and on that day also suddenly seo's tweet directed to her fans saying 'you guys should take care of your health' something like that. I don't remember precisely over what she said but I think it's not once but twice that seo tweeted on kyu's bday. lol idk if it was coincidence, it was definitely a beautiful one for me lol

oh yeah I get it now. thanks

sorry for asking but what's the connection between cherry blossom with seokyu? I don't really get it

haha this is cute. is it just me or seokyu often get asked about each other? lol. I always feel the way he compliment her is an exaggeration. I mean how come she can be the best when she was about to debut? like TMTETS was her debut musical and kyu actually claimed that seo is the best yeonwoo, the female lead's name lmao. like I know you adore seo, kyu but don't be THAT obvious XD

actually I'm torn between wanting them to go public or not. I actually believe that seokyu has public love them however the fandom can be so scary especially elf. up until now, some kelf still hasn't forgiven Minnie and it was so scary. they took pics of shindong,Minnie and hyuk in army and i-elf wasn't allowed to tag Minnie. it was always a battle between kelf and ielf, kelf is throwing Minnie out while ielf is strongly supporting him. when I said public likes to see them both, it happened since their duet. their projects to together always a hit. TMTETS is for me, the musical kyu got the most medias attention. the presscon musical where they kissed was a really top hit. I remember the articles views that time were as much as yoongi dating news which ofc really huge. there was a reason why seokyu wore the main costumes in the presscon, a pair who had kiss scene there (each pair has different scenes acting at one presscon but seokyu chose to act the kiss scene) and how their pics used to promote the musical on subways etc but not other pairings. their duet got covered in the big news like sbs etc. and I always read how seokyu always top search in naver whenever it was topic about them. so this made me wanting to be known to public if they're dating. Korean articles always listing them as smart people too. recently only seokyu listed as 'idols whom Koreans want to look forward to in 2016'. I found this as really special

the incident of him calling seo as Sexy. it was quite amazing knowing how shy kyu was back then in general. he wasn't talkative back then like now. at least that was how his image was. seeing how such compliment he can thrown at seo off cam, it was really funny how on cam they were awkward af. btw, has anyone ever seen seo's description about her ideal type? if it's not kyu, idk who else lol. she drew a pic of her and her ideal type singing duet. and one of her description was 25 years old which was kyu's korean age at 2013. drawing pic of dueting and the ideal type having same age as kyu?? just wow. this happened at 'snsd and the dangerous boy' show lol soo*young teased how she and the guy looked awkward together from the drawing but that was how sugen teased seokyu during their duet lmao

lol it's crystal clear not just you but me too. I even considered it as habit with seo only. I even compared by how he held hand with Lina and seo during tmtets. there was obvious difference. with Lina, he held almost at the tip of her fingers only while with seo, ofc as usual he even rubbed her hand besides holding it tight

well I always thought psh had it worse. I've seen how she was attacked by yong*seo shippers and damn if she can keep calm, she is an angel lol. the way they begged her to stay away from yong despite she actually close with him even bfore wgm, just showed how insecure they were. not just that, they even asked her to set yong*seo together lmao. and kyu also received so much hate from the seokyu duet and kiss scene. from the duet rehearsal, kyu who held seo's hand had to let go of her hand bcuz stupid yong*seo shippers were yelling at him to let go. I saw and heard it through fancams. it was during wgm era. I swear I hated the seokyu idea bcuz of them but can't help but feeling sweet about the duet cuz of him rubbing her hand. urghh love hatee relationship with seokyu lol. at one time, I even feel like shipping kyu with psh bcuz of how similar the hate they got plus I'm also psh's fan. random I know lol

nb users never said about her dating her manager. it was also some users of akp back then. and lol kyu was basically glaring at them lol. and yeah I do feel like he is frustrated that he couldn't spill it resulting him being bold nowadays mentioning seo. and remember when he said that he was disappointed when his show with seo ended? it was when seokyu took selca wearing tmtets costumes. he was never like that with other co-stars not even sun*ny whom he acted with twice. and the selca captured put on his table in his room, logically it can't be no one else but seo he is frustrated when he was teased with other girls but can't help but notice how he always prefer to be teased with seo. remember rs episode in 2013 when he teased seo saying, ' seo texted me to go to her bday party, does she like me?' I'm sure as heck that he never do the same towards other girls. usually he will be teased with female guests in rs and he always never say anything.Vic and khun guested once and she had to choose kyu or khun, she chose kyu and that's it. no teasing or whatsoever lol. basically it was only active if it's about seokyu that's why it was damn weird when nothing happened when seo actually came except for the first time. I remember how I waited for articles after that 2013 episode, then I found none except I read some said that seokyu articles were taken down -_- I'm sure knet had many things to say about that considering how they mentioned seokyu at two articles regarding Chang*toria spoon scandal saying how seokyu is suspicious too during rs and jess*ica wanted to spill the beans and should be investigated. lol

lol also I was surprised when teuk revealed that kyu was in the same gym with him, hae, yu*ri,min*ho and ta*o. it was until late 2014 that kyu went to same gym as seo. bfore, he used the same gym with si*won. anyway you guys didn't feel weird about how awkward kyu and yong*has relationship is? it was the time when sjm,snsd and cn*blue promoting together. and kyu obviously glared at yong*seo when seo tapped yong's shoulder. I can't be the only one noticed it cuz kyu himself said to yong that 'why in music bank, you were awkward with me?' it was during sukira when cn*blue guested, kyu disguised as a fan named soohyun who was 23 years old, same age with seohyun? lmao that was as fishy AF. when yong guested, MC Kim gookjin asked kyu,' yong and seo did wgm together, what do you think about that? lol...the one who was teased in that episode were actually seokyu and yong*shin lol. honestly I already expected that when seo came, they would not dare to tease seokyu. last time they did, was when seo didn't come with some snsd members. and I swear that time, kyu almost beaten turning into a pulp when he was consistently teased about seokyu like punch after a punch

lol no it wasn't. there were actually other pics shown that there was a guy kept going back to back to the seat next to seo but never actually stayed there for long time. but most ppl assume it was one of snsd manager. the time when they kissed, you can see there were not many crowds. I still can see empty seats everywhere. the light wasn't that bright and the fan used night mode.I read that this kind of pic is hard to edit.if it's fake, this pic can tossed around like fake kissing pic of haesica which went viral. If it was meant to be photoshopped why they didn't edit the guy's face to satisfy their delusions? it's not like they made out or something. probably some fans noticed how a guy kept going back and forth and could catch the moment they've kissed. I don't see any reason to photoshop unless if it supposed to go viral. I saw yong*seo shippers spread many fake edited pics lol and some can fall for that easily. there was even a Thai boice who looked like seo from behind and they spread rumors about yong*seo

honestly the fanacc saying kyu sat beside seo just total give away for me. I saw the kissing pic and that's why I wonder why it didn't leaked anywhere else. perhaps it was deal among the users there that whatever talked in the thread,stays in the thread. the user even mention that was seo in that pic, and whoever look at that pic, can easily recognised it was her. previously some said that there was snsd manager who looked like kyu that is dating seo. I found it funny since after I think over, I felt it was all cheap effort to hide the truth or something lmao I ever read from aj (asianjunkie) who called himself as Korean and he said he that kyu*toria was dating. around the time rain x kth couple revealed. I didn't have any problems accepting the info if it was true except when he continued his bullshit by saying that Vic dated Chang*min first then with kyu. well hold on, from that reason alone, I can tell that he's telling lies. then I found out that he really hate sj so why I would bother to hear from such hater lol. I'm furious at ppl think about this easily considering how changkyu friendship is. they are practically brothers and the way they think Vic can date two bffs is just too much. to think Vic still friends with kyu but now awkward with Chang*min chang*min ever said that Han yeseul is his ideal type and it was really known fact that Vic is her doppelganger or lookalike so I knew about them way bfore seokyu

there were some users arguing which one is real between seokyu/chang*toria/yong*seo/yong*shin. but there were more users can confirmed that kyu has been courting seo. people can made up lies just bcuz yong*seo were neighbours once. however like yong said, they actually never met bcuz they lived on different block, and annoyed boice said that cn*blue already moved away so yong*seo fans can stop the shit about them. and Chang*toria though. after that spoon scandal, idk how one can be so denial at that. firstly, sm never denied that they are dating, sm only clarified that they ate with other staffs. now who believe that shit after seeing the small portion of the food plus the food was cooked by Vic personally. bfore the pic with Chang*min on the spoon was uploaded, Vic uploaded the food and said she cooked it. and puhlease, this was during Chinese valentine's day and she cooked for him so what's more proof lol do you guys want? I think that's why her Chinese fans had no chill about it and revealed it

well I don't force you guys to believe me but I'm telling you just one thing. I have no benefits of making this up because I wasn't a seokyu shipper when I knew about this so I wasn't desperate. in fact, I disliked seo back then bcuz I disliked her uptight personalities and seemed not match with kyu's. and I hated to admit that I could see him liking seo but I couldn't feel that she returned those feelings so I was furious reading on how non fans were sympathizing him cuz seo didn't like him back. ok back to the story. I was reading the thread as usual. publicly, fans knew that seo and some other snsd members, kyu with some other sj members came to cn*blue concert in 2012. ok nothing suspicious about this and yong*seo shippers spazzing as usual. so I was following the thread a little while then I saw a user posted a pic of seo kissing a guy there at the concert. I swear to you that seo's face was super clear, that you'll know it's her if you saw it. but the guy's face was mostly covered that you can barely only see his side profile. do you couldn't guess who's this guy. I was genuinely congratulated seo that time I swear and felt relieved that maybe seokyu/yong*seo war can ended peacefully. one of the reason I dislike seokyu that time was bcuz of stupid yong*seo shippers bashing kyu so... anyway I saw other pic who shown a guy sat beside seo.her seat was originally vacant.that time, most of her fans speculated that she is dating a non celeb who is one of snsd manager. that guy who sat beside her was I swear, his side profile looking so freaking similar with kyu's. his outfits were the same like I saw the one who kissed seo. so then I saw her fan said that there was this one manager who looked like kyu so yeah that's why I didn't take seriously of seokyu. that she is dating her manager who coincidencely looked similar to kyu. then I remembered how when publicly fans knew sugen were going to cn*blue concert,sone said that no snsd managers came there so how? then there was this fanacc I found on a fansite from Japanese boice who said that kyu sat beside seo bfore concert started. right after it started, he returned to his seat beside other sj members. so what you think I felt? ofc I was so surprised. the time I found out about this fanacc, the forum already been cancelled. I still remember the pic on my head up to this day. I won't ever forget the typical cap that kyu always wore was the same one as the guy who kissed seo. logically thinking, what was kyu doing beside seo? I even search for SM manager who looked like kyu but found none. you can see kyu still wear that cap recently too when he went to Tokyo for his solo Japan concert. whether the guy can be proved to be kyu or not, I swear on my fortune that I saw a pic of seo kissing a guy. the end. definitely cannot be yong*hwa cuz he was preparing for his concert. and second day of the concert, psh came and sat with his mom lol. still regretting that I didn't save the pic bcuz I never thought this involved kyu. at least that is what I'm sure of. you can have your own conclusion cuz I already have mine and that was what made me a shipper beside the incident on seo's bday party

lol the term courting would stop and irrelevant if they're dating lol. do you guys present when allkpop had their old forum? bfore they changed its layout, they had a forum. I was active there and there was a thread called 'kpop celebs' secrets'. there were many users who were non shippers said that kyu was courting seo and that he wasn't gay. there were lots of stuffs, Minnie once courted su*zy. I think those who missed this era( the day allkpop had this legendary thread) is missing a lot of things. these users mostly not just gave some secret infos but also some pics. lol idk why it never leaked somewhere else but just died down. I was devastated when the thread was cancelled as allkpop changed its layout when I talked about pic, there was a thing about seokyu that might shocked some ppl. lol I hate knowing about this without the forum anymore bcuz all the evidences (pics were there and I didn't save it cuz I never thought the forum would be cancelled and there was thing that I didn't take seriously). it's frustrating.

it was obviously an exaggeration about them saying suju lives there and seokyu spent that night together. but I couldn't deny that night, too many suspicious things happened. I previously said something about the bday party. about how suddenly after kyu came, there were too many party stuffs and how some elf said that the place was kyu's fav restaurant. lol idk if you guys have read about my thoughts on this event cuz I already wrote it on previous pages on this thread. I would like to hear your opinions about it . it was actually the start of me feeling suspicious about them. not necessarily dating but probably kyu was courting her

wgm shippers are generally crazy and the ships always end up getting into other relationships. like I knew about yong*shin, chang*toria dating rumors way bfore I heard about seokyu. so I really dismiss the thought of yong*seo and khun*toria just bcuz of seokyu and changtoria's rumors. there were also khun*fany rumors back then too.I always believe that there's no smoke without fire. chang*toria almost caught (which obviously they were dating at one point), khun*fany once revealed to be true, while seokyu also had many dating rumors which kyu even admitted himself and it was around their duet. in general, I don't care about wgm shippers. even without being seokyu shippers, one can find the super obsessive ones can be super annoying and deserve to be be ignored

lol it just made them suspicious that way imo. they always clarified how they are close but they never appear so in public. like for me, I see kyu as someone who is friendly unlike back then when he was still shy so even though he wasn't close with that person, he would at least can make comfortable conversation with her/him. but with seo, you can always see some sorts of awkwardness which is not really bothering them. it's like they like being with/ working with each other but still have to hide the excitement so that people won't feel suspicious. just my two cents. one thing I'm sure of, kyu likes being linked to seo, judging on how many times he mentioned her first, and he even said how he prefer to be linked to her than to be known as non celeb killer. remember when he was so mad on twitter at articles linked him with seul*gi yet he never mad at tons of articles about seokyu. even I remember articles wrongly described their kiss scene yet he still don't mind it does anybody here remember how quickly he followed back seohyun on Twitter? it was the same minute after seo followed him. his followers said that they checked his activity there and they said kyu logged in twitter just to follow seo back. lol idk about you guys but that definitely something amazing coming from kyu who rarely log into sns cuz he is lazy af

lol at fluttering India though. when sung*gyu asked if it's okay to have ideal type among celebs/idols and mentioned it publicly? he asked just to make sure I think lol. then kyu said,' it's alright. sometimes you can observe her closely and quietly on stage'. lol he said as if he had the same experience like he has ideal type among idols since he mentioned on stage.after he said that, other kyuline were quiet like didn't know what to react after that and sung*gyu said this is getting weird and the whole kyuline laughed. I swear it was really weird atmosphere to me. as if they know kyu is experiencing the same thing lol seriously as his fan, it has been countless of times that I noticed he observed seo quietly. I'm not even saying this as seokyu shippers since I noticed it since long time ago. when I actually shipped kyu with other girls bfore I can't deny that I strongly feels that he really likes seo based on how many times I caught him looking at seo. just at seo. back then and now, it was super hard to see kyu interested in girls until I read rumors about kyu being gay.weird enough, I saw other sm groups' fans also noticed how he behaved.

lol I swear everytime seo is mentioned, the MCs will look at kyu. ex mc, yoon seyoon also did that when 2*PM woo*young mentioned seo coming to his bday party lol, and jongshin said snsd seemed close with jyp artists than sm then kyu said he didn't know about that lol like snsd should have told him so and yoon seyoon looked at kyu and said,' so they (snsd) need to ask your permission?' then kyu replied, 'why not?' haha I always find this moment to be cute cuz they only reacted when seo got mentioned.. whereas they didn't say anything when Jess*ica, Fany and Tae*yeon mentioned before seo lol plus kyu acting like jealous bf when he said 'why not?' lol.

if you ask me, I would think that two years wouldn't affect his relationship that much.cuz as I can see now, army wasn't as strict since I can see soldiers have break quite often. if kyu joins the public service, then he just live a life as a normal guy who works in office hours and still get to see his beloved ones everyday plus, don't forget how kyu is a really loyal friend too who still in touch with even his elementary school friends so I don't think a break up would be easy thing for him so I don't think he'll let army stop his relationship lol I remember at Fluttering India when sung*gyu asked kyu about how kyu would meet his girl in his super busy schedule? then kyu said, 'there's always time'. I found it really sweet. he might be always make time for his girl no matter how busy he is. so that's why I kinda have faith in his relationship.

I don't think it matters for him whether to have relationship bfore or after army. he did say how army worried him when he guested in 'Healing Camp' saying how lucky a couple is when the guy already went to army. so I think he is dating now but at the same time worried over army might create a distant in his relationship. if he's not married bfore army like Minnie, he might get married after that. in short I don't think he is someone who afraid to have relationship bfore army as he might be dating long time ago. just my two cents