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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-36Zlxy7s1g ...0:50 - the dangly things from his pants are... really distracting... *stares* Man they dress him about as unflatteringly as possible. -_-

JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! HE'S ALIVE!!!!!

I have Feast for Crows signed to me, as "A Stark at Heart," so that tells you where I stand. Arya's my favorite character, followed by Tyrion and Jon (the book version) and somehow Jaime snuck in there, too, in the last couple of books.

Welcome to the thread! The entire hyung line was glorious in that photoshoot. Hmm. Not sure how I feel about that. Where did you hear that? If they add more charges, I can only think that other evidence has been brought up. If they reduce his charges, now is maybe when his cooperation over the course of the crapfest has come into play. Kim Hyungjun! I think Kyujong is technically the maknae, but Hyungjun acts like it. But my SS501 knowledge is pretty limited.

Oh, there are a few lurking around on the interwebz. I am incompetent when it comes to messing with photos, so I just leave it to the experts.

ROFL Yes! Yes, they are! Which makes it extra hilarious when he wears hats! ...I so want to see pictures of him as a little boy! Ahhhh! The wonky little finger! Where's hangulover when I need someone to be creeped out by it?! Alright, ladies. Gird your loins. That is the best top ever he should wear that for every performance because holy crap there is everything sexy in this picture with the exception of no thighs but i'll get to that on another post you can guarantee it how the hell are even his armpits fucking sexy i can't anymore he just makes me really frustrated in the ladyparts Also... I saw this one and started laughing and couldn't stop because THIS EXPRESSION HE'S MAKING! I'm calling this his 'bitch, please' face.

I go into a kind of withdrawal when I can't get the spazzing out of my system. It's now insufficient to spaz on my own. -_- I must spaz with others.

...that is not a happy face he's making. I feel like I should apologize and I haven't even done anything wrong! In other news, that hat is hideous, but I adore his big ears. *touch*

Hmm. I don't get any notifications from that - just if people reply to the thread or quote my posts. =/ So... I clicked on your certified Dalmate award, Gno. And they misspelled DMTN.

Inati always gets me, but I've learned how to cope with those feels. I still get caught unaware by random David feels, though.

*scroll scroll scroll* *spots that David gif* Holy shit! *relearns how to breathe* @gno @punk princess (does tagging work here?) The site for the concert lists Daniel as not going. Which doesn't surprise me, as we don't know if his case will be resolved by then, and even if it is, he may have travel restrictions (either as part of whatever the verdict is, or an issue with getting a travel visa due to this being on his record now, etc).

Makes even more sense for them to be performing outside of SK, then. Like... the Singapore showcase (*sigh*) and the upcoming show in Japan. They could pull a TVXQ! and focus on Japan. Simon would be a huge help with that.

No idea, but the official DMTN G+ page is closing in on 250,000 +1s (the equivalent to likes?)... and that's with no updates since mid-March.

He's early March, so he should be. That gifset cracks me up. He did quite a few hardcore pushups, though (even discounting the ones where Daniel was 'helping'). And he did them fast. I was certainly impressed. He did the ones that involve pushing up off the ground hard enough to clap quick in between. ...I should find that video again. It's the end of episode 2 of Dalmatian TV from 6/18/12. He does about 25 of them before he gives in and just lays on the floor.

Intae is a Pisces, which is my opposite sign. If he'd been born a week earlier or I'd been born a week later, we'd be 6 months apart exactly (...plus a couple of years). And... and... opposites attract? Right?

...the best I got is I share a birthday with Jisu's beloved Michael Jackson. =/

Well, there's some evidence that pot can have some of the same effects as smoking cigarettes... except A) Cigarettes are perfectly legal and B) Very few people can afford to smoke as much weed as anybody smokes cigarettes, so the sheer intake of chemicals (and thus the effects OF those chemicals) is dramatically lower. There doesn't seem to be a consensus other than 'maybe, but cigarettes are still *far* worse, just on sheer volume.' I think much like the US, SK only has one or two award shows that are considered 'serious.' We have the Oscars and the Grammys for film and music respectively (plus the Tonys for theatre and the Emmys for television). And I'm pretty sure none of those have anything to do with fan votes... because fans are stupid and uninformed, generally. Not that all critics are paragons of virtue and neutrality by any means, but it's not one critic making a decision, either. I don't have a lot of hope about the situation. They have too much power; anybody put into that position that's actually qualified for it already knows what's expected and will probably just follow suit. =/ Also bugs me that apparently two of the broadcast networks are government owned... and just as corrupt as the privately owned one (SBS, I think). And it's not just the music shows; look at the Idol Athletic Championships. There are rumors that if a group is difficult or was hesitant to sign on for it, they got their screen time cut. Even groups that were eliminated early had to hang around all day, just to do the final farewell thing at the end of the event. Idols get injured every year. And just like music shows, they're losing money by being there - the hope is that they do well, get screen time, get public exposure, and that it pays off eventually. I don't think it's worth it. If you're athletic and proud of it, there are other ways to show it - Dream Team, Running Man specials. Establishing teams like Simon, Junsu, Hyunjoong, etc. I kind of thing that if an athletic brand is going to reach out to sponsor a group, they would rather sponsor a group that is *actually* athletic, and not just pretending to be on TV for one event a year.

AMG THERE'S A HYUNGJUN IN THOSE PICTURES SS501 bias feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeels!

Happy Birfday, Gno! *e-hugs!* *eats birthday cookies for you! ...so many cookies...* Well, we know that sometimes the big companies are in bed with the networks - thus why JYJ can't promote on any of the music shows. I read an article that talked about music show PDs and how managers and agents for idols and companies have to curry favor to assure their artists get airtime to actually perform. It's quite ridiculous. I'll edit to link it, if I can find it again. http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/03/behind-scenes-of-music-programs-singers.html I would wager that guy groups tend to have more female fans, and we're an obsessive bunch. It also helped with Simon that he's gorgeous and that David left on good terms (and frankly, he seemed unhappy in a lot of their interviews and shows), so it wasn't a case of Dalmates questioning the change so much. We've already lost some fans over this scandal, but I figure if smoking pot is going to be a deal-breaker for someone, that person is in for a rude awakening when they get out into the world. As for Dan... he won't be found innocent; he's already pled guilty. The best we can hope for is that he only gets fined. His next court date is in about a week. As for being able to do more... I can't afford to pay for shipping on *one* physical album, forget half a dozen of them. Music awards should *also* be given based on quality and critical reception, not sales. They have silver and gold and platinum rankings to mark sales... awards shouldn't be markers of popularity, but of substance. I get the impression that korean music award shows are almost all the equivalent of the VMAs and MTV MA shows here (fancy popularity contests), rather than the Grammys.

Oh, I'm not upset that you mentioned it; I just remembered reading a lot of comments that were along the lines of, 'I've never heard this song' and '...but they're charting at 28?' It's the funky rating systems that differ from show to show that throw me off. I don't like the award system. Let the damned music shows be about *gasp* showcasing the music, not about whose fans got the least sleep because they were OCD clicking a vote button on a website or going broke because they bought multiple physical copies of a CD to bump the sales numbers. Viewership for those shows is down because it's almost ALL idols, and if you're not an idol, you have next to no chance to win anything, and people constantly argue about what numbers go into what shows and how those numbers are even calculated and whether or not they were manipulated. Guess what, broadcast networks! No assinine show-only ranking system, no controversy! No pissed off fans hating on other fans or other artists! But they can't even manage to not ban artists for stupid reasons (*cough* Shinhwa SBS *cough*), so I don't foresee them getting their heads out of the asses enough to realize they're better off supporting the music than pitting fans against each other via confusing trophy metrics. And I have absolutely no idea about girl group roster changes. I don't follow any of them. I just know that it's few and far between for male groups. I can only think of DMTN and U-KISS having done it, actually... and as far as I know, there are STILL upset Kissmes about that whole... whatever that was that happened.

It might've been 1 vs 100; I don't recall that they got much screen time. =/ How does the Gayo Daejun thing work? I'm sure they could find another strong vocalist... but it would also be weird to add someone new at this point. It hasn't turned out well for any group that's done it and it has the potential to backfire, since it throws the group dynamics off. Plus I think it would require another hiatus... while they all familiarize themselves and the new guy settles in and learns everything from scratch. I agree about Simon; he's not considered part of the vocal line for a reason. Which is why I don't think he would do well, solo. His own vocal ability is moderate at best and I don't think he has the cred, ability or even the desire to be a solo hip-hop/rap artist. As for Jisu... I still think his voice is built for harmony, but if he can work on his chest voice and lower range, he could give it a go as a solo artist - his range kind of reminds me of K.Will, come to think of it, though K.Will's always been a solo artist, so he has the training and power that goes with it. Also not going to argue about B1A4's win. The comments on NB were just full of confusion, because the song wasn't charting well at all, and yet they won over songs that were charting much higher. Something to do with the fanvotes. =/ Banas are a reasonably strong fandom and they might have pulled out all the stops to get that win.

The vocal line DID 1000 Songs Challenge. -_- Not long before the scandal happened. They also appeared as a group on a music showcase show - with Duble Sidekick, since it was a producer special (Janggeun works SO hard for them and I honestly thinks he saves his best songs for them). Inati's been on the Vitamin show (sort of a health education show, from what I could gather; they feature guests from different fields of entertainment and give them thorough physicals and then discuss their results - Intae was in 2nd best shape; the first place person was younger, a frontman for a rock band, a fitness buff, and a musical performer). Jisu and... someone... were on a quiz show. They were doing really, *really* well on the publicity front. 2works was busting their asses to get them proper exposure to the general public, not just kpop fans... and then the scandal happened and basically, all that effort was for nothing. I'm worried that the event in Japan at the end of next month is going to be their 'test run' to see if they can make it work without Daniel. And as much as I adore them, I don't honestly think they can. Dan is the vocal spine of the group. But I wouldn't really be surprised if he decided to withdraw from the group and come back to the States. I don't *want* him to... because I don't see them making it without his voice, and it simply won't feel like Dalmatian without the squishy maknae... but everybody knows by now that him staying makes the road forward much steeper than it already was. And with the flooded industry right now, it's already a steep incline. Now I've just managed to depress myself. Edit: Or they'll have to focus promotions for awhile outside of SK... but depending on the verdict for Dan's case, his travel may be heavily restricted... which brings me back to the idea of him leaving. ...dammit I thought I saw hope and then I dashed it myself.

I admit it, I got a little misty watching that. Yeah, I have no idea where Donglim's talents lie so I can't really guess what he might do. Dari apparently used to be an underground rapper; he could keep putting out his own music and bring some underground credibility to the group, especially if they do go back a little more hip-hop. He could also do feature work on other albums, with solo artists. Intae can hopefully keep getting acting gigs and work his way up to what he's talked about - the male lead's best friend in a comedic role. I kind of think it's adorable that he doesn't dream of being the lead, but more of the wacky sidekick.

It is, in general, a bad situation for groups that have debuted in the last few years. The industry is SO flooded and the songs follow trends instead of doing their own thing, so the stand-out groups are few and far between. DMTN at least has songs that don't sound like every other song out there, and a wide range of vocals (I can't think of anybody else in kpop that has Jisu's upward range), but it seems to hurt them that they *don't* follow trends... and that they always have a long hiatus between releases makes it worse. They're coming up on 3 years since debut and they have two mini albums and a digital single and that's it (and this other album - likely another mini - that's presumably done, but we probably won't hear anything about it until much later in the year if at all this year). I don't really think BAP is making stand-out music, but they're constantly promoting. Fans may want them to take a break before they all collapse, but it's certainly worked in getting them a pretty big fandom and keeping them in the public eye. Our boys need to find a balance between those things if they want to do any better than they currently are. Keep the quality music, but promote more often (there's more than one song on a mini-album - promote the lead track, have a couple of weeks or a month off the stage, promote a second track). Try to get Jisu on Immortal Song or something so more of the public is aware that there is *talent* in this group. The next idol special on Running Man, try to get Simon on it; it would be great fun to watch him compete with the super competitive Minho and/or Yonghwa - this shouldn't be so very difficult - Haha knows them, he's buddies with Mongie, Intae, and Janggeunie.

They'll definitely make a comeback eventually. The question is whether or not they'll ever get beyond 'nugu' status.