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But seriously, we were having these discussions ten years ago, and the answer remains the same. There is no "paving the way". A select few will get slightly more fans and may get invited to a few shows. That's it.

14 hours ago, temiiro said:

Kinda agree. I live in a highely homophobic country and even people who claim to be supportive are extremely ignorant, have double standards towards the community and definitely won't watch lgbt media (if they're not hardcore fUjOsHis but I wouldn’t exactly call yaoi good representation.)

Yaoi is defo not a good representation, but don't knock down the fujoshis completely, they are our leg in the door, as it were, sometimes even the paratroopers behind the straight lines. It's a classic case of an adaptive strategy (getting a possibility of, say, appreciation, which can lead to allyship) becoming maladaptive down the line (staying mere fetishes after society has moved on). 

We call it "slash" because of Kirk/Spock in the early fandom; some of these women then became active in the gay rights movement. I just like to count my blessings, is all.

 

On 6/22/2021 at 8:35 PM, Dont mind me said:

I think the reason why they aren't supporting him is because he has this half foot in the closet vibe. I can understand why they are thinking like that. If he were to make some sort of  small real gesture that showed his true intentions, I think they would come around. Right now it's only thrist snaps and I know wonho has more in him that just that. 

 

If only I could show him *my* true intentions.

 

There you have it. It's SHINee's fault. 

On 4/8/2021 at 12:46 PM, neuggimiwa said:

 

 <-- literally my face through the whole thing

Looks like a lot has changed in those five years I've been out of the loop. Now, this of course is an outlier, but are there some more recent MVs you'd say are obviously and intentionally homoerotic?

When it feels like the truth. No harm in thinking on it first a bit, though.

On 11/1/2020 at 8:23 PM, Chika Chika said:

This is very helpful it worked.

If you want an exact method, go to google and put this in the search bar: 

Name site:https://onehallyu.com/topic/64-which-male-idols-do-you-think-are-gay

Yields all the mentions of Name made in here.

On 11/3/2020 at 12:18 PM, Thatoneuser said:

I wonder what their comeback will be like now that there are only three of them

Well, Yonghwa is still there, so... 

Disney "Star Wars" tends to be shit, but this show is brilliant. Lovely cinematography, inspired work with the main character who manages to be engaging without ever showing his face, great scenes, and baby Yoda. A+

Because she was beautiful and free.

I know I'm late to the party, but... if we were to judge people based on how they were at 13, we'd have to write off about 90 % of the population -- *particularly* as far as dumbass homophobia goes. Hell, we'd have to write off a good bunch of gay people, too.

Is that an excuse? No. But I am far more interested in how he is today. I'll judge him for real when someone digs out some juicy shit he did six months ago.

Fuck no. How many of them have to fucking die before the industry pulls its collective heads out of their asses? Hasn't Jonghyun been enough? How many of these wake-up calls do you actually need?

How do I know that it was him? A gradeschooler could have doodled that in her sketchbook and y'all would never know.

5 hours ago, moth said:

how we feeling about this one

http://kpopkfans.blogspot.com/2019/10/nct-taeyong-insulted-gay-student-in.html

Ask me again when someone posts photos of the whole album proving that it's him. Because I could have drawn that snippet in my sketchbook and sent it to Pann and y'all would never know.

Soooo... uhm, what's the opinion of y'all threaders and threadettes on the whole Jopping... thing?

1 hour ago, strawberry melon said:

literally none. my gay ass is still waiting for some shounen ai/yaoi that I would be able to watch without cringing

Watch Gravitation 

Though it wouldn't surprise me if Taeyong for example liked him for other reasons too but who knows.

 

 

 

 

 

I'll see myself out.

What makes you suspicious of him?

 

My pleasebegaydar. 

This is j-pop related but since we don't have our own thread, here goes

 

 

There used to be one, it died. So if anyone here has the scoop on J-idols, I say here with it. Someone help me to finally decode Uepi, please. T_T

Absolutely not. The -sexuality part in homosexuality comes from the latin word sexus, which refers to the biological sex, while homo means same. As such, homosexuality refers to the exclusive attraction towards the same sex, which can be both romantic and sexual in nature. If asexual people need new vocabulary to describe their lived experiences that's perfectly fine, but we shouldn't change the meaning of the word "homosexuality" when gay people have already fought for so long for their attraction to be recognized as not just a sexual thing.

 

Going back to the previous topic though, could someone post some receipts on Mingyu? A lot of people here don't see him as straight so I'm interested. I've never really registered anything myself, always found Seungkwan and Joshua to be more suspicious, but SVT makes me feel completely clueless overall.

 

It would be more accurate, I believe, to say that asexual people have a relatively narrower view of what "sexual" means. You love your partner, feel and share their emotions, help them with their burdens, sacrifice for each other... all of it, it seems to us, stems from the basic sexual instinct. So, if an ace has all that *without* the sexual part, what does it say?

 

Perhaps the sexual part is still there, just "hidden from view", even to the person themselves. Sublimated, as it were. (That's assuming a lot, however.) Maybe it is us "sexuals" who fuse together two areas that aren't essentially the same. Or perhaps this is different for sexuals and asexuals, just the forms appear the same.

 

How would we know, though? How would we go about finding out? No proof is possible, you know.

A bit late, but relevant still...

 

This quote is often mistranslated or at least misinterpreted. The key expression "異性ã«é™ã‚‰ãš" does mean "not limited to the opposite sex", but in Japanese (and many other languages), "opposite sex" is very common (and heteronormative) way of referring to the sex that someone (assumed heterosexual) is romantically or sexually attracted to. My interpretation of that expression in this context is "not just people for whom there exists a sexual/romantic interest". 

 

That was precisely my suspicion, that the heteronormative bias is so ingrained in the very language as to be rendered invisible. This sort of euphemization was quite common in English as well -- and many other European languages, too. It makes sense to ask to what extent the LGBT idols play around the constraints because the invisibility protects them, but we will never *know*.

 

Part of what makes this all so interesting. 

I don't really understand the nuance between "not limited to" and "not just with", but as a gay Japanese I instantly understood his meaning to be bisexual. I believe the only reason which is why people ignore that is because of heteronormativity.

Just to be sure -- could what he said also mean something like "not just for matters of opposite sex", i.e. not just for sexual matters? Because this seems a common euphemism in Korea, with the usual "to see someone as a man/woman".

I haven't watched that many Asian BL dramas, but I can only think of like 2 I actually liked. One was HIStory 2: Crossing the Line (the Chinese one about volleyball). I'm not sure I watched every episode, but from what I can remember, the two mains were nice to each other and actually had chemistry, and it had a happy ending. The other was the Korean show The Lover. Idk if that even counts, because only one of the main couples was gay, but it was actually a quality show overall and very lighthearted. And like, Yuri on Ice as far as anime goes.

 

Most of the other shows I've seen with M/M or F/F couples have either been problematic as fuck or just too cringey to watch. Sigh.

One of my proudest achievements in life was that I managed to watch the entirety of Gravitation.

 

My therapist thinks that, too. It helped pay his mortgage.