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1 hour ago, loveablejoy said:

It reminds me if fansite whitewashed kpop idols. Even they magazine that whitewashed Zendaya & she called them out on Instagram

Beyoncé has always been light brown to me even now.

I think depends on lightening, etc. Both photos are months apart.

 

And not that user calling her racist. I'm not the biggest Beyoncé fan but skin whitening runs deep in the black community.

apparently some ppl say zendaya is actually lighter than she is in a lot of press photos and that her having tanner skin is all bronzer and stuff. two of the photos are selfies while the other two are candids.

https://sideyes21.tumblr.com/post/677202237092659200

kpoprocedure just posted abt stayc yoon!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaX6N1iJood/?utm_medium=copy_link

1 hour ago, DDiddy said:

What do you mean distinct features such as his gummy smile or cat eyes are gone? Did he change them somehow?

A lot of fans don't want their idol to get surgery or enhancement because that would destroy the illusion that the idols are naturally perfect. I bet a lot of them pick it up subconciously but don't actually want to believe it. Plus PS is still pretty stigmatized especially by international fans

i also believe it also has a lot to do with fans projecting themselves onto the idol. they see this pretty/handsome idol and put them in a pedestal and want to be as pretty and successful as them. so when fans hear abt their faves possibly getting ps, it ruins their image of them and ruins their projection fantasies. mixed with their stigmatized view of ps, they feel guilty or even disgusted for worshipping and/or wanting to look like someone who is "artificial"/plastic/"fake"

jingyi is def prettier, even when barefaced. xiaotong, on the other hand... i've heard some cnetz say she looks "old" or like an "aunty" esp without makeup and i def agree

https://sideyes21.tumblr.com/post/677159092902625280

i also find jingyu a lot more talented than xiaotong. sure, xiaotong is a lot better at acting, but jingyi has been getting better, and she is also a talented singer and performer, which makes her a total package. the only thing xiaotong's got going for her is her acting skills and her long legs that for some reason so many cnetz go gaga over. i've heard seen her perform some songs onstage and she's so... boring to look at.

random thought but am i the only one of thinks song jia (from single's inferno) and wonyoung look somewhat similar? like jia looks like an older version of wonyoung to me...

4 hours ago, zhvero said:

Ok, so please ignore the stupid premise of the video, but I was on youtube and this short came up and. wow. It immediately made me realize (remember) just how much work Jungkook has gotten done. its so good at showing just how much hes changed

Like just surgery's, you can tell hes gotten (multiple) lateral canthoplasties to really open up his eyes and make them bigger, a blepharoplasty and double eyelid surgery to remove the heavyness on his lids and give him double eyelids, an epicanthoplasty (multiple possibly) to bring in his inner corners and give him a different shape and then multiple nose jobs

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And then nonsurgical, and not in the video, he gets lip fillers + (occasional) chin filler and I think he may actually get jawline filler too to define his jaw more

His work, for the most part, is really natural and good but I feel bad. Jungkook debuted at 15 and hes gotten so much done 

Also I am not a jikook-er and am a little offended youtube thinks I ship people 

going off topic for a bit: speaking of ships, i get rlly annoyed whenever i see a ship video even tho i searched for an idol. i'm tzuyu biased but i get rlly irritated whenever i see those tzukook/taetzu ship proof vids like bitch i wanna watch tzuyu vids not ship vids made up by delulu stans (sorry for the rant, just needed to vent a bit...)

p.s. feel free to ignore this lmao

kiki's outfits are a lot more varied and daring, and experimental. i love how she doesn't stick to only one style

1 hour ago, Zaralei said:

Onehallyu always asks me to watch on YouTube kids for no reason   But anyways, thanks for the context! I think I found that video now (BeBoss TV?) and I get why it made you snicker. No idea why people make these "yeah no idol x definitely did not get surgery, they've always looked pretty" videos like... no one is saying they got ps because they were ugly. Did not like the tone of that video at all lmao. Also very selective with their "proof", I'm guessing whoever made it has little to no knowledge about ps (seems like they think getting a procedure done would automatically swap out an entire feature for a different one) but wanted to play expert  

yeah like they always think plastic surgery is something that looks extreme or obvious (thanks a lot kardashians and jenners!) but ps is getting rlly rlly advanced that it's very hard to detect it. recently, lorry hill did a video on zendaya and she pointed out that she has actually done a very subtle rhinoplasty, so subtle that most ppl would never have even spotted it. like the width of her nose is still the same, but the change was actually on the cartilage just above her nostrils, which is why the change was not so obvious, but it already made a big difference. it made zendaya's nose look natural yet refined at the same time

10 hours ago, Zaralei said:

Help why is it telling me to watch the video on YouTube kids Who/what is the video about? 

basically abt idols who ppl believe are 100% natural/plastic free. as far as i remember, jisoo, yuna, and yeji are in the vid. idk why it is asking u to watch it on yt kids tho since it is from the normal yt app

idk why but this vid made me want to snicker somehow  

2 hours ago, Zaralei said:

So some stans are already claiming the members of JYP's new gg are natural (this one vid as an example)... Any thoughts? 

 

i have seen this too... we will all need to wait for them to debut so that we will get more photos.

On 3/28/2021 at 7:49 AM, Nctyleggo said:

Onto Tzuyu and what I think she’s had done:

PRE-SIXTEEN PROCEDURES:

 

Puberty does a lot of things. A round baby face may become more chiselled. A jaw may become more defined. Your overall face matures.

It definitely won’t tuck your nostrils in and change the entire structure of your nose. You won’t get a droopy columella that wasn’t there, or deep double eyelids from barely a hood. The pouty lips you had as a baby won’t get any bigger.

Tzuyu’s original nose was flat and slightly upturned, with flared nostrils and a fairly straight bridge. I believe she had a rhinoplasty into her early adolescence, which included an alarplasty and the insertion of a implant that added height to her nosebridge and made it more shapenly, a mix between an arch and a ski-slope, which put pressure onto the tip of her nose and caused the columella to hang.

She also had a lot of fat atop her eyelids, and, since the changes seem to have ocurred in a fairly short period of time, I think she had a blepharoplasty as well.

BU- BUT SHE LOOKS JUST LIKE HER MOTHER!

Her mother owns a goddamned plastic surgery clinic and has admitted to getting PS herself. She actually looks more like Tzuyu now than she did originally.

POST SIXTEEN:

—Eyes

Tzuyu’s epicanthoplasty goes without saying. There’s more tear duct exposure, the inner corners of her eyes are way more rounded and they go deeper in.

Tzuyu’s naturally beautiful eye shape seems to have been changed as well. She had an extremely positive tilt of her eyes’ canthus; a sharp and almost animalesque upward tug. In recent years, however, that uniqueness seems to have been faded, and traded for less sharply upturned and longer almond eyes via reshaping her outer eye corners with lateral canthoplasty.

I also think she’s had her eyelids clipped yet again, to account for the higher crease she sports nowadays.

— Nose

Tzuyu has definitely had a change to her nose postdebut. I think her previous ski-sloped nose implant has been replaced by one who gives her and outwardly sloped bridge with some added height to it. This means she has had a second rhinoplasty.

I also think she got a second alarplasty and got her nostrils tucked in a second time. She has some scarring left from this procedure.

 

The new implant put even more pressure onto the tip of her nose, making her columella even more droopy. It sits in an unnatural way. There have been occasions when it’s become warped as well. In this pics, as well as the former, there’s visible scarring around the alars.

 

 

— Lips

I don’t know what it was that made Tzuyu’s lips go from extremely thin pre-Sixteen to just very thin. In her post debut, however, there’s a noticeable difference to their extension and volume that can only be explained by subtle lip fillers.

I also think she’s had botox injected between her nose and upper lip to prevent it from rolling inwards when smiling.

 

— Teeth

I think Tzuyu’s teeth are her own, but she’s had braces to correct their alignment and whitening treatments to lighten them up.

 

I also think Tzuyu’s undergone obvious skin whitening procedures, the changes not being quite as drastic as most people make them out to be. She still retains a healthy golden hue and slight tan. Her darkish tone from earlier days has gone, though.

The subtle changes to her face shape and fat distribution can be attributed to aging. They’ve happened gradually. 
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so far, this is the most well written post about tzuyu's procedures. great job

31 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

Are there visible changes? Because I don't see any other than what's likely typical, natural aging (and weight loss.) You're supposed to convince me that there are irrefutable, visible changes that aren't natural, not bemoan the fact that they aren't obvious enough to be irrefutable, thereby proving my point in the process. If you can't somehow prove beyond any doubt that it's anything more than mere speculation, then you can't expect me to accept it as anything more than that. Being overly sure of yourself without providing anything to back it up, other than recycling the unconvincing arguments of another OH user who likes to exaggerate, isn't doing you any favors. I know you came in here fully expecting everyone to give you a standing ovation for showing us all how "delulu" another random person on the Internet is for not believing your unverified opinions, but that isn't how this works. So yes, I'm going to continue "denying" it, because you've given me no reason not to. And you won't tell me more, because you're not willing to make the effort, you just want to be snarky and use this subject to get one over on people. Toxic behavior. 

really? are you for real? bc if i recall correctly, the person whom you last argued with in the past few pages actually gave you evidence and even explanations as to what had changed (i don't recall if it was the one with jiyeon or tzuyu) and yet you still outright denied it stating you saw no changes (when even i saw it for myself).

feel free to look into that quora link i have left above. not sure if the comment itself is on top, but there should be a comment there with attached comparison photos as to what has changed in tzuyu's face. i would post the screenshots for your convenience, but since that was taken from a user's post from this same thread, just go and search up that post using the search engine with the thread name and tzuyu's name, lmao.

23 minutes ago, Jikrytae said:

There is no "proof" contained within this thread, only speculation, which is exactly what you're doing now, speculating. You don't know that she's had plastic surgery any more than they know that she hasn't. That said, I've still yet to see a convincing argument that she isn't natural, and your "look at this person on another site who is clearly wrong!" non-argument isn't doing anything to change that. 

 

I'm afraid you're going to have to be (a lot) more specific. As I showed a few pages back, her nose has been shaped like this since childhood. 

okay, but if the changes are already there, visible, and you know those changes cannot rlly explained by puberty, am i supposed to ignore it and keep saying or believing that she is natural? are the small changes not considered proof enough, or do the changes have to be as big and obv as kim kardashian's ass to be considered believable? that's one of the reasons why so many celebrities can keep on getting away with lying and duping their fans with whatever procedures they have done by hiding behind the whole "it's just speculation!!" shield, and ofc some fans just take it lying down and refuse to use their eyes. a lot of ariana stans are like this.

also, aren't u the same user some peeps here were arguing abt jiyeon's and also tzuyu's procedures and u kept on denying them? i would tell u more abt what i see from seulgi's nose but judging from your previous responses... eh.

also, seulgi's nose is suspicious:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUNFXqPpdm6/?utm_medium=copy_link

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZhjLVxvgcl/?utm_medium=copy_link

https://www.quora.com/Is-there-a-single-female-K-pop-idol-who-hasnt-had-plastic-surgery-or-even-non-invasive-surgery/answer/Lyra-Lee-22?comment_id=247841328&comment_type=2

behold the delulu stan of the day. i literally went ahead and explained why tzuyu is not natural, and then she went full delulu and kept on linking that video of the japanese surgeon that said tzuyu is natural, and also her mom apparently saying tzuyu is natural... like they do know ppl can lie right? i even gave her visual proof from one of the pages in this thread and she still didn't believe me delulu stans are honestly the worst.