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lol no its okay, I do love how heechul has become almost that poster child for that though oh yeah, those two I'm surprised there would be debate on.

oh god please don't compare sehun to heechul, that man is one of a kind, and not in a good way. but who did you have in mind when you did write that, just curious? lol I see we have some elf/heechul stans lurking

what part of I don't think sehun is straight, but I'm also not 100% convinced of every piece of evidence about him is hard to understand, literally repeated multiple times I don't think he is straight and I think he has proven he is attracted to men, but I also wanted to point out that some of the pieces of "evidence" are a a bit flimsy imo and it was really in response to another user about how opinion on sehun has shifted slightly and why that might be. very well aware of sehun and the chef. questioning the reading comprehension here also its clear reading some of these posts that some people are clearly new to kpop and have little understanding of how men generally interact with each other , because had suju debuted today guarantee half of their clips would be used as evidence here despite most of them being het. siwon and heechul could have easily taken a picture like that setao picture. speaking of though, I will say tao is an interesting case, apparently there are rumors he has a bf now?

I'm sure this has been discussed, but what are people's thoughts about tbz? Obviously I think kevin is someone most people agree on, I think tbz are interesting case because I think as a group they know their audience very well and are probably one of the most lgbt friendly groups, perhaps kevin being in the group and seemingly having some creative control is part of that reason.

why is that a weird thing though? you are aware of how that sounds , right? like either they look like massive assholes or maybe their jokes weren't actually implying what people think they were implying. either way I don't think he is straight, my point was some of the instances that people use as receipts, I'm now questioning whether they actually meant what people think they meant. There was actually a post a while back about sehun and someone who had been a fan of them for a long time (no it wasn't regina lol) someone who thought he was lgbt but also pointed out that some of the evidences used for him were a bit dubious and it kind of shifted my view on him. I still think he is queer, I'm just not as " I will die on this hill" about it. as I might be for others.

oh yeah, that comment he made on ig isn't the only reason I go back and forth on him, and yeah you're right that they could easily over step. I think one moment that sticks out to me, unfortunately don't remember the exact quote, but it was when exo had an interview in dubai and one of them made a comment that if you just looked at it without any context you'd think oh wow there they go again making jokes about sehun being gay but then I'm like wow would they really go there especially being in dubai too, and that made me look back at some of the past instances too and question whether or not those instances were actually what some of us originally understood or was it something else. I'm with you though that I'm not saying he's straight either. I think he is attracted to men and probably has had relationships with men, but if news were to come out that he had a gf I don't know if I'd be horribly shocked either you know. Also I'm aware that gay can be used as an umbrella term and it doesn't have to just be mlm, but the men I mentioned earlier as to there is no debate, I think are just that, where as sehun while I think he falls under the umbrella, I'm less sure about what that would be

oh yes sorry, kevin and ren! sehun is...very interesting to me. A few years ago I would have hands down put him in that list and him using that pride filter is interesting, and I know there have been several pictures of him looking like he's been on dates with men, except I recently learned that one of the men he was out to dinner (that picture of him hugging that guy in what looks to be a restaurant and it looks romantic almost) is actually a straight dude. I no longer think he's 100% gay, he probably isn't straight either. some of the evidence that is used to prove something about sehun is some of the jokes his exo members have made implying he doesn't like women, but part of me wonders if someone were actually gay, if their members would actually go there you know so I'm a little torn on that

I genuinely think if vernon were slightly more "effeminate" more people would be saying he is queer. People tend to overlook the idea that "dude bros" can be lgbt even though I don't think vernon is really a dude bro, just chill. He definitely has had girlfriends though, iirc he's spoken about exes back in the day and talked about how much he loves girls he was super young though and as he's gotten older I think the chances are he's explored his sexuality and obviously we'll never know how any of these idols identify, but if I had to guess I would say bi. I stand by rocket being a bi anthem. People talk about idols and mentioning lgbt media, whether it would be music or film in here as evidence, vernon is at the top of that list and as far as I know he is one of the few kpop stars to talk about Sophie. Again all that to say he could be a very dedicated ally and he does seem like he comes from a super progressive family, and someone brought up andrew garfield who is pretty well versed in lgbt culture but also ids as het so that could be the case for vernon. I know there were some "rumors" and I use rumors lightly in this case because I don't think most fans thought anything of it but I remember when he went on vacation with kino just the two of them during the holidays and two good friends going on vacation together isn't really odd, but it was interesting either way because iirc he went during the christmas to jeju and typically Christmas in Korea is generally more of a couples thing than family\ also in regards to mingyu, I know some of the mingyu fans clearly feel some type of way about this here, but I still he's straight as I do for most of 97 line. speaking of seventeen though, I forgot to mention Jun. I think he's an interesting person that I can't quite put my finger on either way

didn't think there were any seungkwan het truthers? him, key, ten, and jo kwon are the ones I just thought there was generally no debate, not including any of the het girlies who just are denial

I am sure you mean well and I don't mean to sound rude and make assumptions, but every time you post about taeyong it has me wondering if you actually know and interact with lgbt people irl, something about the way you post about him is just very weird.

besides seungkwan, this might be an unpopular take here but vernon, and he just might be a super dedicated ally but you can tell he is immersed in the lgbt culture that doesn't necessarily feel like its pandering either, never understood people who said he he was super het mingyu on the other hand, despite his physical affection which to me means nothing especially considering how common skinship is, strikes me as het

Despite the presumed lengthy evidence for taeyong, he actually doesn't ping me whatsoever. This isn't to say I'd rule it out or I'm claiming he is one way or another, but I'm always puzzled when people use the evidence of taeyong saying he was awkward/didn't understand girls or something like that and I think he was talking about it when he was younger but this idea that gay boys are awkward with girls is funny because in my experience it has always been the opposite. Now this doesn't mean that all gay teens have to have a set of girl friends, but that particular quote used as evidence was always funny to me. I know lyrics are not also an indication of something, queer men can write het lyrics especially if you are catering to an industry that is still largely homophobic, but looking at a pattern for some of his songs and I don't know if I can confidently say he desires a man. Also some of the posts here have devolved into just posts about ships. I think idols who are legitimately queer, it goes beyond how they behave with their bandmates

About Yuri, he may or may not have dated him, but if they did it was a few years ago and thankfully they broke up because they certainly aren't together now, some people speculate they broke up early 2020. Yuri was following Ten on IG for some time and stopped, but I don't know when he stopped following him. With the HK dude, he went on a vacation with no manager for 9 days and from what I understood people would spot him with this one guy. When he guested on that radio show Johnny and Jaehyun used to host, he talked about the trip but made it seem like he was by himself and also talked about how he took a lot of photos, but only shared two so that made people even more suspicious

he was technically copying the first move, although there is a cheekiness to his facial expression with the way he points to himself and giggles when he repeats "from the top" so I can see why some might think its sus, knowing ten he still might have been trying to make a joke out of it

i dont remember the specifics because it was quickly deleted, but it had something to do with her name being "10" in a different language except thats like finding any user with the name ten in it, and her name was just her nickname and had nothing to do with him and yeah they basically photoshopped pictures to make it seem like they were mutuals except they never were obviously, they actually ended up taking his make up artist who he was mutuals with and cropping that, its actually sadly not uncommon to find some random ig girl and connect them with idols it happens, with ten though it was very clear it was made up and the rumors got debunked very quickly, i'm sure the anti fans moved on to some other poor soul also its funny because ten clearly didn't want to do that 520 video, he talked about it in a fansign and he asked the staff if he needed to do this so i wouldnt be surprised if half the stuff he said was scripted, and it was just a video that clearly was trying to appease the gf fans which largely a lot of cfans are, i feel bad for the man that he has to hetbait at times

it was 100% made up, the person who made it up admitted it and quickly deleted it when they were exposed, the reason it never really made it onto intl twitter was because it was debunked within a few hours and they werent fans, but rather antis this was around the time that haechan/ryujin rumors started cropping up because of the vlive of incident so ten wasnt the only one who got rumors made up about him, i think some other members did too including doyoung and taeyong. the girl who was linked to ten had nothing to do with him and was even asking fans to stop bothering her. none of her ig posts had anything to do with him. it never even made sense to begin with. the only thing true is that he did have a finsta and yes he did follow some lgbt artists, youtubers and media.