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That's crazy, it's horrible that she died. How can such risky procedure even be allowed and, even worse, normalised? I know every PS procedure comes with risks but there's gotta be a limit how much one will risk to ''look better''. I don't see the jaw shave trend stopping anytime soon, especially in kpop, which worries me for all these young idols going through with operations like that, and the consequenes it could have for them, like you said, it could have been any idol instead of Wang Bei.

Jaw shaves are god awful in my opinion. Like they don't actually make anyone look better they just give the face an egg shape so many idols are desperate to have. I feel so bad for Karina when I look at her sometimes, don't get me wrong she just looks absolutly amazing but the jaw shave made her face look very off balance, her facial thirds are destroyed. We have the same situation with Sullyoon (?) from NMIXX, she doesn't have good facial thirds either, made worse by the jaw shave. Shouldn't a good surgeon look for the balance in the face as well?

I find it quite funny that Taehyung is kinda often on this list if you think about the context of him being dicussed on this thread, it makes it even better haha Namjoon too, though I'm kinda sad that the boyfriend discussion was so short-lived. Yoongi has SO many sus moments I don't think anyone actually thinks he's straight tbh. I find it remarkably that he put quite tellling lyrics (E.g ''Whether it be men or women, my flexible tongue movements will send them to Hong Kong with my raps'') in songs. Like, Interviews can be deleted or disproven, articles can be taken down too but a song by the artist? that's gonna be on the internet forever, I mean you wouldn't be able to take down a song and not expect reactions by fans. Just a very interesting choice to convey his message in my opinion.

That's actually insane, doesn't Thailand have basically mass production of BL series? they make a lot of those I've heard. And they don't hire actual gay actors...tf

Itzy's concept change around MITM kinda irks me. I really liked their 'I am unapologeticly myself and love myself' thing, it was somewhat unique, especially for the time they debuted. With Loco they cemented the overused 'I love a boy, I am obsessed' concept that has already been seen in kpop by everyone and their grandmothers. They could have introduced other aspects into the concept if they wanted to give the group a more mature image instead of going the most possible boring route.

are any gay dating rumors floating around at the moment? or generally at all

Unrelated to Solar specifically but man I wish not everyone would go for lip fillers, they don't look amazing on everyone, especially if they're overdone. Thin lips are cute, I wish kpop would recognize that.

Holy shit I needed a moment to actually recognize Solar even tho it says her name right there. She's giving me Karina-esque vibes somehow? As far as I can see she pumped up on lip fillers and if I'm not mistaken she got an chin implant. Her chin is very pointy now, especially when she smiled you can see that. It could be fillers tho. In my opinion her face looks so full, some fillers, probably in the cheeks. She doesn't look bad but I really liked her more natural look quite a bit more. I'd hope too that it's just editing, we'll have to see her live.

I‘m not sure why Doja Cat is mad, I watched the video and Lorry never said anything negative towards her, in fact don‘t remember her ever saying anything negative about the way anyone looks. Lorry also always makes clear that what she‘s saying is just her own opinion. She‘s been famous for years and I‘m sure many people have been talking about her body and judging her for years, I wonder what caused this specific video to hit a nerve? I get it, it‘s not nice when many people are speculating about someones body or face but well man that‘s a downside to being famous…

god damn I just found a reddit post from 3 YEARS AGO stating that Yoongi lost his gummy smile by BWL era, jesus I never noticed . I’ve also tried to look for before and after pictures of his eyes but I can’t really see a big difference, anyone got some good pictures?

What do you mean distinct features such as his gummy smile or cat eyes are gone? Did he change them somehow? A lot of fans don't want their idol to get surgery or enhancement because that would destroy the illusion that the idols are naturally perfect. I bet a lot of them pick it up subconciously but don't actually want to believe it. Plus PS is still pretty stigmatized especially by international fans

I tried looking for the “Yoongi dated a boy” tweets but I sadly only found fanfics and people talking about their own relationships haha. Thank you tho for all the explanations!! I now know a lot more than before

That's a lot of interesting info, can I ask how you got it? (what your sources are) I barely find anything about their predebut teenage days anywhere tbh

I was just about to bring up how Yoongi lowkey exposed that Jin used to get flowers at all boys schools. They were so panicky it's actually funny. To this day I can't tell what went on in Yoongi's head to go into that direction and then how he went on about how he went to an all boys school as well. That moment was kinda sus haha. Here is the video in case anyone wants to see, at around 3:19

Wow the changes are quite subtle, enough to barely be noticed, you have very sharp eyes haha also the fact tho that his cleft chin just randomly dissapeared is such a strong confirmable proof that he gets cosmetic enhancements done.

A question, how can you tell he gets chin fillers? can you find some before and after pics and explain? I don't think I read it in this thread before, so I'm genuinly curious.

I need more things to do but I can't find anything other than being on social media oof

I don't like NMIXX debut. It sounds like noise music but now from a gg (don't like noise music from bg either). The company put so much effort into the music video, it seems like they forgot to put actual effort into the song. It's dissapointing because it didn't matter what song they would have debuted with since they're a JYP group they'd still have massive success no matter what. Hearing this song made my fear for the future of kpop.

thank y'all for the tea it was delicious

kinda unrelated, but how do you guys find out about (lowkey) rumors in kpop? Is there a site or threads?

I agree a lot, in fact she looks quite a bit different. Now her eyes are huge, I don't exactly know which eye procedures she might have had but they changed her whole eye shape. Like most idols she got lip fillers and I think she got her nose touched up, perhabs made the tip smaller. It also like she got the typical nose implant on her bridge to raise it. Otherwise I can't tell if she had more done.

I really think Yuqi from (G)-Idle is such an underrated singer. What do y'all think? Is she good?

I actually don't think arguing with stans will change anything at all, if they don't want to believe you no amount of proof can change that. That is the reason why most think their faves are completly natural when that is highly unlikely, because they choose to believe that idols are born perfect and are somehow otherworldly. Especially arguing with 'delulus' is a waste of everyones time. Proving your point to them seems not nessecary in this case.

I'm not really a Red Velvet fan (yet) but every time I see Joy or hear her voice I feel an indefinable amount of hapiness. She is so pretty and adorable and I might be in love or smth idk

man I hate that people keep pushing the boundaries I clearly establish, I can't fucking form as an adult when all I know is no one respecting my choices.