cold soba

i’ve gone down the rabbit hole the past days and i’m obsessed with watching photocard collection videos. if there’s one thing to be happy about in the uk, it’s the merch accessibility. i’m gonna start buying enhypen photocards for 5 bucks and it’s gonna be damn good – people who sell photocards for more than 5-6 euros are straight up scammers i swear

on another note, i read up recently that jyp is switching to selling photocard packs with a digital album code a la victon and i’m so down for it. not quite sure how available they’ll be for overseas fans but it’s good to see prices drop and paper saved. a friend of mine bought a version of enhypen’s manifesto and all the photos in the photobook were already uploaded on weverse for free, so what’s the point if the photos are already out there? could have had a nice dinner out instead of an album

On 8/11/2022 at 7:01 AM, gam3 bo1 said:

i don't know where these pics came from but they're newly found of enhypen ni-ki as a kid. found this tweet too. i have no thoughts on him because i'm quite unfamiliar with enhypen (outside of sunoo) but i've heard the general consensus is that he's straight so this might be interesting, don't know

you know i kinda find myself disagreeing with the tweets in this post. the last things i would think characterise niki’s childhood are ‘gender expression’, ‘premise of freedom’ or whatever else op has written. the truth of the matter is that he was/is a stage child who did/does multiple concepts. okay sure, he did women’s hiphop, he wore feminine clothes, but he was also dressed up in key’s iconic bdsm get-up at around age 10, which i find dodgy at best. it was niki’s parents that pushed him to do various concepts, and he did them because he had to do them. if anything, i’d call him sheltered, because all of this non-conformity exists in a bubble. the same goes for sunghoon. the two of them grew up with their only life goal being performance, and at the end of the day the two of them lack in social skills there’s nothing open-minded about forcing your toddler into competition and stage lights and i’ll stand by that.

i don’t think either of them mean harm to sunoo, but i can see where the confusion stems from and why they’re meaner with sunoo than the others. sunoo’s perceived queerness isn’t a concept or an act – he’s a guy that happens to be queer. and i think both psh and niki are trying to cope with that by teasing him more than the others, like @poffertje pointed out. but i don’t think the way they act towards him is a pointer towards their own sexualities, it just shows how they’ve been conditioned to deal with queerness.

ANYWAY enough with me playing armchair psychologist, any more tea on enha?

12 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

you're br*tish??

hmm if you enjoy blackpink's music and you have the money, why not? you could try searching for videos of their past concerts if you want to get an impression of what their shows are like.

i’m not br*tish thankfully but i’m moving to england next month lol praying i won’t Die there

my issue with bp is that i do like their music but i’ve heard mixed reviews about their performing so i’ll do more research! i can’t wait to actually see kpop acts in england cuz there has been maybe 2 groups who ever visited my home country and both times it wasn’t in my city the struggle is real

edit: and the groups were nugus might i add

blackpink are performing in london in dec… do yall think it’s worth booking tickets once they’re out?

1 hour ago, Flutter Pie said:

i think both of them force a little bit, but that can be said about most kpop groups  the sunoo fat jokes for example i think it's forced humor. The main difference is that TXT are funnier than Enhypen so they come across as more forced, while Enhypen jokes don't feel like jokes because they're not funny at all rsrsrsrs i don't watch them that much though, that's just how they come across

honestly agree, the two groups are pretty much on par but the main reason i don’t enjoy watching txt as much is that i don’t vibe with their humour as much. hyuka is very very fun though and soobin too bc i don’t think he tries to be funny, he’s just himself lol

i think the reason i’m so weak for enhypen content is that [sobstory time] my mental health had a sharp decline the time i started getting into them. last year i got super sick during easter and i physically couldn’t study for exams so i turned on the enhypen content as a distraction and they’ve stuck with me since. sure they’re not very entertaining for non-fans cuz they’re all super awkward and the fat jokes are… well they’re a load of bullshit, but i am optimistic that they can grow from it. hopefully. lmao

1 hour ago, Flutter Pie said:

engenes and teumes fanwar? Now that is funny because I find their career trajectory quite similar with hit bsides and all 

honestly it also baffles me but ig it kinda makes sense? two big 4 boy groups who debuted the same year… that’s all fans need to pit them against each other. it’s honestly kinda fun to see engenes and teumes in arms cuz they literally fight for the dumbest shit (apparently filo engenes call jake jekjek but filo teumes call jaehyuk jekjek so they were arguing about who coined it first…). even today!!! haruto is under fire for saying homophobic shit and engenes allegedly started spreading the clip and teumes brought up enhypen’s fat jokes and now there’s a proper fanwar going on for no reason. insanity

if i had to judge 4th gen bg music…

48 minutes ago, oh my dora said:

y’all apparently haruto from treasure said a man and a man doing a romcom is weird

and then tried to backtrack by saying i didn’t say i don’t like it as long as it doesn’t cross the line

but i know damn well if i search further about it on twitter, their fans have probably covered everything with excuses and mental gymnastics

especially when people who have said they’re korean speakers and even with a translator, he said what he said

and this is the same group where two members actually kissed lmao

oh LORD… so you’re telling me all of doyoung’s efforts in the glass closet have gone in vain? #justicefordoyoung

no but seriously, i wouldn’t expect your average male idol to be supporting of lgbt rights. it’s sad that the other members had to intervene for haruto to not say anything more stupid, like imagine what he would have said if he wasn’t stopped LOL. his fans are obviously trying to deflect by claiming it was a mistranslation/misinterpretation but he’s really not sugarcoating anything in that clip is he

8 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

help that's so funny because me and my theatre friend were talking about how treasure and enhypen are fundamentally the same group like the spiderman pointing meme - big and boring to watch on stage personally for us (this is just my OPINION i know you ult enhypen so i will not be too mean ).

haha i don’t mind if you trash talk enha, i mean i’ll be the first one to criticise them whenever they release stuff i don’t like so!!! there’s definitely loads of things they do that i wish they wouldn’t do and loads of things they don’t do that i wish they would, so fire away

10 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

i had no idea that teume and engenes did not like each other?? i guess because they debuted in the same year so they're rivals? also i do despise ppl who say groups that write their own music > groups who do not, but that is the YG (boy group) brand of "we are better than others" and it's been that way since forever. i don't know anything about their personalities.

i don’t think treasure have disagreeable personalities as far as variety goes, but i’m gonna out myself as a yg anti because goddamn that company is terrible and i’ve always hated their pretentiousness. no sir, you are Not an artist if you write music that sounds like my dog vomited on the mixing board and yes this is direct gdragon slander. not to mention, yg is also very good at taking talented people and stripping them of any charm – mino for example is one of the best idol rappers ever and he’s stuck releasing z-grade shit in winner!? the quality of yg output is super low, and combined with the fact that yg artists never release music, it shows that these people are fucking lazy and they’re relying solely on their artists’ names to make money. this mindset is so insulting to the consumer but fans don’t realise that and keep endorsing them. my #1 kpop wish is for yg’s reign of terror to finally STOP

23 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

on enhypen's end, you have a VAMPIRE concept and you are WASTING it. where is the blood, the gore, the bathtubs of blood, the crazy makeup, the churches, the repressed guilt, the emo nonsense, the over the top choreography like kpop men aren't stabbing themselves on stage like they used to.

yes yes yes a thousand times YES. sometimes i can’t help but redesign their mv’s in my mind when i listen to enhypen’s songs, and i think given-taken (both kor and jpn versions) and drunk-dazed are peak kpop mv’s, but they need to go even harder with the vampire concept holy fuck!! i wanna see them beat each other up, do some biting, recreate the church clips from tvxq’s rising sun like OMFG. belift needs to hire me as their creative director bc their new concept is sacrilegious

26 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

#sometimes things that are expensive are worse. i will buy 500 copies of enhypen's next album if they let sunoo eat someone and then take a bath in their blood on camera while wearing the most OTT outfit possible. also why are they now a hip hop group. what happened to the vampires.

seeing sunoo cannibalise someone would literally cure my depression and i’m not even joking. that shining-esque scene with sunghoon in dd is what sold enhypen to me, like!!!! an angsty boy in a room that’s raining blood doing his little contemporary dance??? absolutely innovative and deserves an encore. i need enhypen to contact gaspar noe to direct their next mv because they can always do more and they genuinely have so much room for versatility, but hybe is fucking stupid and now they’re hiphop for some reason. don’t mistake me, i love seeing heeseung in sleeveless shirts, but this new concept doesn’t fit them at all. not to mention the only connection they all have to hiphop is that jake occasionally listens to rap #bringbackthevampires2022

ohoooo the tea is steaming here so i’m just gonna throw some opinions cuz i wanna be a negative nancy

3 hours ago, nana_moon said:

oh so you want me to start a fanwar is that it. okay i will preface this by saying that i bear these groups no ill will and i might actually like songs here and there from them, i just find them uninteresting: BTS, TXT, Enhypen, BlackPink, Cravity, AB6IX, Twice, Seventeen, Fromis 9, The Boyz, Treasure, Drippin, Astro, Winner, Le Sserafim, Just B, Viviz, uhhh controversially X1 was being hard-carried by certain members.... that's all I can think of at the moment. throw the tomatoes at me

barring enhypen (obv) i mostly agree with this list i love txt’s discography but their variety doesn’t do it for me. although enhypen have less chemistry with each other i feel like they don’t force themselves to be funny, txt kinda come off as a bit forced at times. with lesserafim i think they’re all gorgeous but their music isn’t quite my style yet so i’m patiently waiting for the comeback!

i’ll go on record here and say, holy fuck i can’t stand treasure. like i know there’s the saying that ‘an engene can never be a teume’ and vice versa, but in my defense i disliked them before stanning enhypen lol. i watched their variety and they all had these luxurious solo rooms decked out in imac’s and recording equipment and other expensive shit and my only thought was “how much of this money comes from illegal shit”. teumes also have a superiority complex for some reason? my friend once had an argument with a teume who was saying that “treasure are objectively better than enhypen cuz they write their own music”, to which my friend replied “just because they write their own music doesn’t mean it’s good”. which is true! and i mean, if treasure members’ peak songwriting is boy and jikjin… maybe ban them from entering the studio next time they just overall give me the nastiest vibes, not to mention their albums which are smaller than my palm cost 45 euros. thank u next

there’s loads of other groups i think are lame but those don’t annoy me on a spiritual level like treasure, i just think their music is kinda bad lol. seventeen is the first group that comes to mind, i just find their music so bland. monsta x for me have also really fallen off ever since wonho left (and even before that), but now wonho releases some really good music so i can’t bring myself to care for mx. there’s also others like nct dream, tbz, fromis, kard, half the 4th gen boy group rookies… i can’t think of any other names rn lol, they’re all just kinda in the kpop purgatory for me

never change, onehallyu which male idols do you think are gay thread, never change

5 hours ago, hanyku said:

the way his ankle buckled....oh lord

i did some research and apparently eun hwi (the guy yonghee was staring at) is not even 18 yet so yonghee buddy please don’t catch a case

speaking of cix though, i was giving their content a look and like, there’s not a single one that doesn’t ping??? like how does that even happen lmao

On 7/30/2022 at 2:59 PM, themistoo said:

I am gonna get so many clowns for this but sometimes I am genuinely convinced that there is something between them. Same with woosan. Fanservice can only go so far until you start question things at least on one side of the ship 

i don't think them liking each other is totally out of the realm of possibility. i think with minsung in particular what made me go from 'hmmm they're just besties' to 'ok maybe something is going on here' is the way the members talk about them. i do agree that minsung comes off as one-sided, particularly from minho's part, because jisung tends to be very affectionate and flirty with everyone. but in their most recent 2kr changbin said something along the lines of: "when jisung wants to calm minho down, he says 'why are you yelling, honey?'". like idk!! that's so... domestic it makes me wanna cry. not to mention, felix and changbin called their relationship 'secretive' because jisung is the only one in skz minho will talk to honestly about his worries. also seungmin saying that these two should not be broken apart at any cost (well kinda lol) and all of them agreeing that they're soulmates. and this all was said in one (1) video! link here btw

another thing that makes me melt with them is something smaller i guess. jisung has some nervous habits, in particular shaking his legs. there's been loads of instances where minho will put a hand on his thigh to help him stop/ground him and i just find it so sweet  atp i don't care if they're into each other but their bond is one of a kind i swear

as far as woosan goes, i'm not really well-versed in them cuz i don't follow ateez, but they're def in the same realm as minsung. they just seem so genuine, i watched some clips from a wooyoung live where he was talking to san on the phone and it was so wholesome it made me wanna vomit rainbows. they do loads of fanservice, but i don't think they mind being skinshippy with one another. i tend to see people say that it's one-sided from san's part, and while it's true that he comes off as more clingy, i don't think it's an indicator that he likes wooyoung more than wooyoung likes him. imo their dynamic is more balanced than minsung, but then again idk much about ateez so!! feel free to correct me

on another note, what's the tea on just b?  lim jimin is serving non-straight vibes, but funnily enough it's gonna be geonu and chu jimin playing in a bl! neither of them ping me tho

tell me why i've been ignoring onewe all this time

THIS SONG GOES SO HARD !!!! AND DONGMYEONG KEYTAR !!!!

4 hours ago, nana_moon said:

the way i wanted to like their April song so bad because he looked like this

the way i relate SO HARD omfg... like imagine my shock when i turn on the newest just b with no expectations and

like i'm not really attracted to men but there's some particular kpop boys that scratch that itch. jeon woong and lim jimin for me in particular, they are plain HOT like omfg. i think they're overlooked (mostly jimin) cuz they're prettier than the average kpop hottie but they're sexier than the average kpop pretty boy. like you could never catch me swooning over bm or cha eunwoo types but these guys just GET it ykwim?

i was also a big fan of just b's debut, for a while i was like 'man am i really gonna stan a group with geonu in it' but then they came back and i was like nahhh  yongguk has to pull up and save them fr, i was never a bap fan but i've been finding myself discovering their discography again lately and their spot hasn't really been replaced yet, so!!! maybe just b can find their niche and we can continue our lim jimin akgaery in peace 

@nana_moon god you’re so right about lim jimin he’s a proper hottie

6 hours ago, nana_moon said:

@cold soba you know i see what you mean now about Geonu having bad vibes. I watched some of Just B's content and there is something lmao I mean I imagine Just B isn't super close because they were put together within a few months and then debuted but yeah, the vibes are...interesting. Chu Jimin also kinda has that feeling too.

tbh i don't follow just b but i find it so funny that lim jimin hangs out in the same group as heeseung (beomgyu's 01z lol), despite them virtually having no connection to each other, but there was no mention of geonu and chu jimin whatsoever, despite all of them being the same age and training in the same company before. while watching i-land, geonu came off to me as... resentful? i suppose. he had a specific grudge against heeseung, it was mind-boggling to me. in the very beginning, he said that he didn't know why hee was overhyped and was the only one that didn't vote him into i-land, then he ganged up on him with the whole first mission shebang. chu jimin also has some strange vibes but he didn't have any screentime in i-land so i won't go too hard on him lmao.

i just wanna say

minsung real

peace

6 hours ago, nana_moon said:

My deviated septum surgery is scheduled for this afternoon so I’m pretty anxious I can’t drink or eat for the next 8 hours as well :((( 

hang in there!! you won’t feel a thing and you’ll be feeling much more comfortable in your daily life soon

1 hour ago, Flutter Pie said:

So how was the interview? Good luck m8

it went pretty well!! the interviewer seemed pleased with my answers fjfjfjjf i’m not exactly sure how to phrase this properly but i’ll be working as an assistant editor at a company which publishes english as a second language textbooks. they’re gonna mail me a trial text tomorrow and based on the work i do they will decide if i am fit for the job kinda stressed but also very excited cuz i’ve wanted to do this exact kind of work since i was in elementary haha

11 minutes ago, liya18 said:

Is this for real???????? 

 

times like these i'm so sad we don't have a  reaction because WHAT???????

and congrats to everyone who applied for jobs!! i just had an interview today and i'll be getting a confirmation next week! good luck y'all 

y'all i feel like i'm slowly becoming a gg stan LMAO. i've been looking aespa on my pinterest and now they turn up on my front page and they make me wanna COMBUST they're so cute and gorgeous and those OUTFITS goddamn  initially i was shocked by karina's visuals but now i think she's the prettiest in the group. she looks just like an anime character, especially with the bang extensions from the girls mv. and!!! lesserafim are total cuties as well and the world is my oyster is my jam. also chaewon is an ICON with the bobcut!! i've never stanned girl groups although i listen to a lot of gg music, so i'm very excited to start stanning them haha

on an unrelated note, paradoxxx invasion has to be the sickest kpop title ever but the song is...... so pedestrian. can we have attention please back?????? it went so hard. or we can get something equivalent to treasure's darari remix, it totally revamped what was the most half-assed kpop song i've ever heard

3 hours ago, nana_moon said:

you know i don't think i've ever mentioned it on this thread before but i am gonna out myself as an nct fan lmao i actually really like a lot of nct u and nct 127 music and i'm of the opinion that the 7th Sense is a song that is still too ahead of its time (Eunki you were so galaxy-brained to audition with it on Produce 101 in 2017) and nobody has ever done it justice except that original NCT U lineup and Simon Says is one of the best experimental songs done ever and yes i love mad dog and i can talk SO much about those NCTmentary videos released in 2018 that changed my fucking life and Yestoday makes me want to ugly cry. BUT i do not like most Stray Kids songs (but weirdly, i do like Side Effects and Tortoise and the Hare. they're the only SKZ songs i have ever saved), i think NCT and SKZ are compared but the production choices are so very different. but yeah i do listen to noise music i'm an SM stan. surprise!

yoooo fellow sm stan!!! i stanned nct in 2017-2018 before discovering skz and the sad part is that i hated regular so much i unstanned them. i had even preordered the album goddamn no complaints for the photobook, it was very much like a fashion magazine which i Love, but the regular-irregular album was mehhhh for me. i still listen to nct on and off though, they rarely release uninteresting title tracks so they keep me on my toes lol. AND SIMON SAYS WENT SO HARD PEOPLE WHO HATE IT JUST DON’T GET IT

also skz are sorta acquired taste, so i understand if you don’t like them haha. funnily enough i am also a big tortoise and the hare enjoyer, i think it’s prolly my fave song by them!! the noeasy album was a bit messy for me which led me to becoming uninterested, added to the fact that i had stanned them for two years by the time that album was released so i kinda wanted to find a new interest nfnfnfnfm. my new favs by them are definitely silent cry, freeze and muddy water, i think they’re worth a listen

3 hours ago, nana_moon said:

a friend and i call AB6IX, Dave and the Woojins because it really is just the Daehwi show

ya but jeon woong is a hottie

3 hours ago, nana_moon said:

you have no idea how hard i'm biting my tongue when i see which songs you wrote that it dethroned. the chaser by infinite is the closest we will ever as the human race get to seeing the face of god!! but taste is subjective after all lmao

well recency bias plays a big part here lol. i’ve been listening to lucifer religiously for 10 years, platonic love and chaser for 6 years LMAO. but they’re really difficult songs to top, it doesn’t get better than that in kpop

54 minutes ago, eunheart said:

I DARE NOT LOOKING AT THEIR AGES AT THIS POINT

but they're refreshing indeed

hey man i’m the same age as jungwon and they’re still too young people born in 2008 are in MIDDLE SCHOOL and i finished high school this year for reference. idols should definitely not be debuted that young, but part of me thinks one of the less mentioned factors is that they do it to make sure they won’t jump ship in the long run. a teen trainee would rather choose stardom over education and in seven years’ time, when they haven’t finished high school and potentially have limited legal knowledge and undeveloped social skills, they have no choice but to continue the idol game. i mean, when tvxq debuted they were barely 18, but when suju debuted leeteuk and heechul were already 22. sm didn’t have long term plans for suju as a group (no particular talent, less visuals), but tvxq were supposed to blow up just like boa (who infamously debuted at 13). it sucks a lot sigh

the main reason i even thought to stan enhypen is this MASTERPIECE

like ok drunk-dazed was good so i'm like hrmmm let's check the album, then i go to spotify and this is the first thing i hear and???????? my mind was literally blown i'm telling you. i think it dethroned my trifecta of my all time favourite kpop songs and i still dunno how to feel about it </333

47 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

Energetic isn't tropical house, it's categorized as dance pop (and yeah i remember. like all trends that get too big in kpop, there was a lot of bad....). oof we must have really different music taste i think. they're not my favorite musical group by any stretch (i'd put them in my "i casually quite enjoy this" category) but i do like some stuff.

haha i also think we have different preferences. i generally prefer "noise" music, but like. the good stuff. for instance, side effects by skz was bullied to hell and back but it goes harder than 99% of kpop and there's so many things that make it work for me: the change to 12/8 for the chorus, the sampling, the aaaa... mori... apeu... da... like i want noise music that pushes the envelope, another good example is mad dog by nct 127 which a lot of people hated but it's so strange it becomes good. anything by swervy or gwangil jo also gets a pass from me lol. the thing with other 'noise music' makers is that they try copying skz or nct and they remove all the substance. groups like p1harmony and epex make me wanna break a wall white guy style cuz their songs sound like they were written in 5 minutes and they just told some malnourished teenagers to act like street thugs

also!!! light by wanna one is good haha, that 'do you feel the sameeee' is so cathartic. i had totally forgotten the title though 

1 hour ago, nana_moon said:

people hated jisung so much when he was literally so full of personality and making watching the show bearable!! i know a lot of people are sour on him because they suspect he was the rigged member but you know what.

i'm of the opinion that the rigged one was kuanlin, iirc he had a really big slump in ranks around the end. jisung is a king fr, he was one of the few popular trainee that i feel deserved his popularity 100%

1 hour ago, nana_moon said:

Spoiler

right, i can be a little generous of niki because he was quite literally a child with zero proper social skills, but god he was so unpleasant. i honestly stopped watching I-Land after the first couple of episodes because the overall vibe was SO bad. i felt so much pity for heeseung in that first mission because he was really trying his best to be very responsible and fair and make sure everyone could perform while still being able to finish and everyone went "Heeseung is MEAN! KICK HIM OUT!!" i like geonu in just b dsdsfsdf i'll give him some slack since he was one of the few guys there who could hold a tune. but for real so many adults on that show should've known better and acted better.

and because of that, it really struck me how much pettiness and jealousy there was and how VISIBLE it was. these boys did NOT like each other and i couldn't understand why HYBE would choose to air this because the cliques and backstabbing and how negatively it made everyone look?? i've always kind of suspected that the trainee environment in HYBE is not particularly nice and it's extremely competitive + trainees are encouraged to view each other as rivals and not as friends (TXT's ""cute"" little story about Yeonjun intimidating new trainees to know he was the top ranked trainee always stood out to me). the friendship within a group is such a big draw in kpop that it's so wild to me that HYBE was like "what if we started off with everyone not getting along and we broadcasted that?? what if we created an environment SO toxic and threw these teens in there?? do you think they'll do okay??"

8 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

Wow that’s so fascinating. In general I think the talent level on Produce 101 S2 was so high that I would’ve been okay with quite a few different member configurations. I found the final lineup fine but I also only actually watched the show years after it aired, so I was judging Wanna One by what they were (a pretty good boy group overall), than what they could have been. Jihoon, Guanlin and Jinyoung were kinda shaky but the others made up for it. 

i think the main reason wanna one never clicked for me is the fact that their music just isn't my style at all. like of course energetic is an iconic song and one of the VERY FEW instances of good tropical house (remember that shit?) in kpop, but if you ask me to name any other song of theirs i won't be able to tell you lol. i think the biggest shock to me after the end of wanna one was the fact that park jihoon actually released a song that i really enjoy???

literally the last person i expected quality from but it was a welcome surprise regardless. i'd love to see him do a totally uncensored interview where he talks about his career, from going viral to going down the road of irrelevance. i feel like he would tell a good story.

14 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

Lmao I was so glad Hakyeon didn’t make it in because I didn’t find him that promising. (Sorry to all The Bs here). But then I’m a Yoon Jisung fan he’s my pathetic little old man so can I really cast stones? 

tbf haknyeon was totally immature but the way he was treated by both cre.ker and knets made me root for him all the way. cre.ker essentially dumped him in the show a few weeks before it started cuz they wanted to get rid of him. not to mention he was a loen trainee which wouldn't gain him favours with mnet/cje&m, but in the end he became popular to the dismay of like everyone lol. knets were totally disgusting towards him, with the racism and the death threats and basically all the nasty stuff you can imagine. in the end it's better that he didn't make it into w1 i think, but he's definitely in the top 11 in my heart <333

and yes yoon jisung is a beauty omg. i can't say i care much about his career but he is just so charming and funny, i think he went into the show with like 0 expectations and that contributed to him having no filter LMAO. he was so much fun

20 minutes ago, nana_moon said:

Lmao Seon wasn’t any more annoying to me than Niki was, but Seon was an adult

i-land rant under the spoiler