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  1. 8 hours ago, elseelseelse2 said:

    Okay, I did a Jaehyun did deep dive and now I'm even more confused than before. I've put all the photos in spoilers because this is 5+ years of chins and jaws. Let's remember where we started from, here is predebut Jaehyun, before he entered SM. He has very chubby cheeks but notice that he's very skinny as well. He was never a fat kid and was in fact quite athletic:

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    Here we have SM Rookies Jaehyun, circa 2014. He was 17 years old.

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    The lower half of his face looks narrower (?). Next is debut era Jaehyun, in 2016. He was 19 years old.

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    Wider than SM Rookies era (?). Cherry Bomb & Limitless era in 2017, Jaehyun was 20 years old:

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    Look at the lower jaw area - does it seem squarer here than 2016? Moving on, in 2018, we have Empathy promotions (Boss), Chain and Regular, where Jaehyun was 21 years old. This is where "ice prince Jaehyun" image really starts and people begin noticing that he's "regrown his jaw":

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    2019, 127 promoted Superhuman and went on a world tour.

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    Maybe a bit squarer looking. In 2020, when Jaehyun was 23 years old, he promotes Kick It, Punch and Make A Wish. It starts looking even squarer:

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    And here we have 2021. Jaehyun is 24 years old, the designated ice prince of 127, and primed for an acting career:

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    The final screenshot is from MAMA last night. His jaw is as thick as his neck, squarer, and gaunter. The right side (our right) looks uneven compared to the left, as though he has jaw assymmetry, something he didn't have from 2016-17 where his jaw was rounder. It looks like maybe he had something like this in predebut. Yet I also don't feel like it's the same jaw he had predebut.

    tysm for all the work! jaehyun is so confusing to me. from what i've seen people think he got his jaw work done before sm rookies but his face is so unusually narrow during that time then it goes back to his usual squarer shape which makes me think he had something done in the time span between sm rookies and debut. i think him looking gaunt could definitely be a consequence of buccal fat surgery, it's a common thing that happens with people that get it done which is why most advise against it. and then a lot of people that get it have to continuously get fillers to fill in the gauntness with filler instead of the fat they got rid of. so during the eras in which he doesn't look as gaunt, either he got fillers or just naturally gained weight so his face got some of the cheek fat back. 

    also debut era to cherry bomb era and 2019 to 2020/2021 seems like a significant change to me but i can't tell if it's cause he got something fixed or some other reason. i mean i would say maybe he lost more weight in his face so his jaw bone is more prominent but it doesn't really look like he lost any weight so

     

  2. i thought it was kinda awkward tbh and i agree they should've done it together. i think generally don't have anyone do a solo dance stage unless they're exceptionally good dancers. at least if they're gonna do it solo have back up dancers, props or something else to fill the stage not just them. 

    it kinda reminded me of bts mma 2018 stage where in the beginning jungkook, jimin and jhope had their own solo dance segments but the thing was it wasn't just them in the middle of an empty stage but they had props so it didn't look awkward. that's what they should've done here, the CGI wasn't enough

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  3. 19 minutes ago, rosejelly said:

    tbh I don't think we can really compare pictures taken from below with their chin up to pictures where they're looking straight/down to the camera. The angle and perspective changes the look of the jaw a lot 

    yeah i know i wasn't comparing that side profile picture to the one op posted i just wanted to share a picture from another angle

    15 minutes ago, exodus05 said:

    Did he got his buccal fats removed too? 

    if he had a jaw shave then i think he did because otherwise it wouldn't have worked on his face. he had naturally pretty chubby cheeks and if there's no jaw bone to support the cheek fat then that leads to a disaster

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  4. 43 minutes ago, elseelseelse2 said:

    Renjun does look much more circular in the face...could be he's really bloated from drinking or exhaustion or...could be he went with Yuta to the clinic and got some dermal fillers. Hoping the former....

    That picture and the comparison picture I posted earlier...now I do think Jeno has a chin implant tbh.

    Sometimes I feel so sad that he's been tinkering and trying to correct how his jaw looks for the past five+years 😞 has Jaehyun always had jaw assymmetry? would that be a sign that he actually did shave it, or was it just hidden under his chubby cheeks? from his predebuts, i can't tell:

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    He definitely has done something but I don't think anyone of us know what he's done exactly to it over these years.

    changes in renjun's face could definitely be because of other reasons like you mentioned but i'm inclined to believe it's not as temporary because he's been looking similar for around a month+. it could be just weight gain too but honestly he doesn't look like he's gained weight anywhere at all other than his face which makes me lean towards the yuta clinic date...

    jeno's chin is still a mystery but the pictures you posted earlier + this picture from the red carpet hmmm. jeno always had a pretty strong chin but it didn't protrude that far out 

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    jaehyun's jaw is like the biggest kpop plastic surgery mystery 😭 there's mixed opinions on what he had done but i'm leaning more towards fillers rather than a jaw shave atp. who knows though

     

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  5. 2 hours ago, ribbith said:

    I know Minghao/The8 regularly uses fillers (esp. his lips every comeback it seems), but I was surprised by these photo(card)s I got in the most recent comeback's special album. I know they're official photos so they're edited, but the shadow above his upper lip is definitely filler, right? Or specifically migrated filler? 

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    Like the shadow does not look like it's in a natural spot... It's noticeably higher than the lip/skin edge. I doubt it's concealer/foundation put over his lips, because he likes to emphasize his lips in his selfies. The harsh lighting doesn't help but rather emphasizes it.

    i never really noticed minghao's lip fillers cause they never looked that obvious to me? he doesn't have exactly thin natural lips and there was never a time they were overfilled to the point where you could definitely tell something was up (apart from now that photocard you showed lol). i guess he gets them done for comebacks but doesn't bother in between the promotions so after a couple months they dissolve? 

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  6. 2 hours ago, Aryu said:

    Can we talk about how Ariana has been getting rid of her crease lately....

    It's especially sus given the rise of Kpop and her well documented tendency to try to fit into whatever racially ambiguous 'aesthetic' was currently in. Remember her Latina phase? Maybe this is her Asian one lmao

    Homegirl very much has deep creases. If she starts easing up on the fake tan and going lighter it's case closed.

    ariana fans when ariana was in her latina phase: "she's naturally tan!"

    ariana fans when she's in her asian phase: "she's naturally pale!"

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  7. 1 hour ago, really said:

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    i saw somebody on quora say that hes had his nose tip reduced. what do you guys think 

    i don't think so tbh i think his nose looks the same (minus makeup contouring etc..), the only time i've kinda raised eyebrows is at sm official photos but they edit the heck out of those so i'm sure they messed with his nose too

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  8. 4 hours ago, elseelseelse2 said:

    Chenle lips? Like the lip corners or a lip filler? Otherwise I agree, I think he's natural now. For Jeno, I think he gets filler in the bridge/tip and maybe brought the nostrils in a hair + the chin implant and lip filler. He has very unusual features but I love that about him. I think Haechan the debate is whether it was surgical or fillers, idk. I agree his nose has changed (when will nose bumps be respected...). I think Mark like another user said did his eyes very subtly and injects filler to of course, smooth the bump. Jisung I agree natural. Jaemin... I just hope it stops here, I see the "sexy member" shackles emerging. Right now Renjun is the biggest mystery for Dream, people go back and forth if he did his nose (not to the extent of that nightmarish edited Mnet photo, but got rid of the hook), and his jaw. Since Hot Sauce he has looked softer to me but idk if it's just the hair (his best hair! i love kpop idol skunk hair idc).

    Taeyong is so confusing because outside this thread pretty much everyone thinks he cannot be even a little natural and yet. 🤔

    for chenle's lips i meant more like fillers here and there, when i compare his lips now to debut i think they look considerably fuller these days but i'm not 100% sure 🤔 i've always loved his D-: smile i hope he never gets a lip corner lift or something of that sort. jeno has really unique masculine visuals that fit him perfectly which is why i really hope he doesn't mess with his face in the future to fit the more "idolish" look. 

    and i know right i was gonna mention renjun before. these days i see a lot of people talking about him and his possible procedures (not on this thread but in other communities) he's like the biggest mystery in dream right now. idk if you saw but his face looked pretty stiff during an awards ceremony dream went to not that long ago and he also did an insta live where his face literally looked freshly done. the fillers debate is tricky because if it's a one time thing no one really knows whether it's fillers or some other circumstance that causes their faces to look stiff and puffy like he could've just went drinking before the awards ceremony 😭 though i kinda doubt it. either way i hope he doesn't go overboard, jaemin too. idk if you saw but there was conversation about underweight idols getting fillers on their face to not look as gaunt a couple pages ago on this thread and jaemin was brought up. personally i think it could be the case that he is overcompensating with fillers to avoid looking too malnourished despite being underweight.

    taeyong's visuals are so unique that it almost can't be believed that he's natural hahah either way i think if he got work done it didn't contribute *that* much to his visuals, it's not like he was one of those idols that ended up looking like a new person after leaving the plastic surgeon clinic 

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  9. 8 hours ago, elseelseelse2 said:

    Their make-up artist hates them, from the pink lip tint to the chalk foundation to their eyebrows (side note: I've read in some places that the 2000s revival in fashion may be bringing skinny brows back - as well as the hyper skinny body. Lovely).

    Anyways, I wanted to ask about my boy group ults, NCT. This is what I've gathered from the thread or my own observation:

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    Taeil: nose job (he has a very obvious implant with the bridge being perfectly straight and the "penis" shape). i think maybe he did his eyes really subtly.

    Doyoung: probably the most extreme jaw shave i've ever seen on a male idol from a big company (i'll never forgive whoever/whatever convinced him to do it), nose job (another fallen hooked nose soldier), eyes, and lip fillers.

    Johnny: nose job (2x, both predebut, i don't know what the surgeon was thinking), and his chin/jaw??

    Ten: nose job. his jaw is probably just naturally very weak.

    Jaehyun: whatever he did to his jaw (a shave, implants, buccal fat removal and/or a liter of botox), something was done and he's had so many different iterations of it to try to counter his naturally adorable chubby cheeks and craft his intended shape (whoever convinced him to mess around with his jaw is also on my hit list). nose job and eyes and i think he gets lip fillers too.

    Yuta: there's like nothing that isn't blurry predebut but i think he's had a nose job (implant like Taeil), and something to his jaw and chin area (his surgeon should be in jail). it looks like it used to be wider and squarer and is slimmer now and he has an implant in the chin. i also think he's done his eyes too to make them bigger.

    Jungwoo: nose job, eyes, a ton of filler in his cheeks and lips to make him the second taemin

    Jaemin: nose job (2x - his predebut, debut, and current nose are all different), eyes, and i think he has fillers/implant to make his chin project more. i need them to stop there.

    Shotaro: nose job (a really bad one, his natural nose was so cute), i think his eyes are unchanged. something to his jaw as well.

    Yangyang: eyes and nose job. i actually think his lips are naturally like that because his smile looks the same as predebut. maybe a little filler in the chin.

    Sungchan: eyes and nose job to make the third jaejoong. his jaw is probably naturally very weak?? 

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    Taeyong: ???? this thread's greatest mystery. his eyes, nose, and jaw are sus to me, i think at the very least he made his eyes bigger. i also think he uses fillers more than we think, at the very least in his lips.

    Kun: i think he made his nose less round but others say he is natural.

    Mark: either SM's only natural male idol, or has very subtle procedures for his eyes and nose bump

    Winwin: there was one post on this thread that i can no longer find that said he has alarplasty scars. but everyone also says he's natural.

    Haechan: ??? very subtle nose job? he had a bump (leave nose bumps alone!!)

    Renjun: double eyelid surgery (unquestionable), but i feel like his nose and jaw look different. maybe it's just the longer hair that is softening his image.

    Jeno: maybe some filler/implant in his chin (like with Jaemin) to project out, and filler in lips and corners. that kpoprocedure instagram says he has alarplasty scars but i have never looked up at his nostrils so idk. if anyone touches his godly big nose, i'll cry blood.

    Xiaojun: ???? he has so many adorably awkward predebuts and yet i feel blind if there's been a change

    Hendery: very subtle tip refinement? another big nose that must not be touched.

    Chenle: tbh i don't think he looks like he did during Go era, with his jaw (slightly slimmer) and eyes (slightly bigger), but i can't pinpoint it

    Jisung: perhaps the real only natural SM male idol tbh

    help??

    now why did i think taeyong was an ulzzang? i'm a flop nctzen. he's so charmingly awkward.

    irene did her eyes (double eye lid surgery), nose and her chin area i think. she's discussed a lot in this thread in the past.

    i don't know wayv or most 127 that well so i can't speak for them but i mostly agree overall. chenle's lips are kinda sus to me but i think that's the only thing he possibly had done. i discussed jeno's nose here before and said i find it a bit sus but most people seem to disagree so idk. haechan for sure did something to his nose after chewing gum. jaemin is definitely the least natural in dream and jisung/mark the most but like you said mark might have gotten some slight tweaks here and there, just nothing major. i've seen people discuss whether jisung had slight tweaks to his nose but personally i don't see it. as for 127 taeyong's nose definitely could raise some eyebrows

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  10. 4 hours ago, really said:

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    jake got his nosejob done before iland? i’m not sure but its been a while. his nose looks better from the front than it does from the side. the implants just juts out. jay has also gotten a nosejob. ive also seen other people on different forums say jay has gotten an epicanthoplasty too. not sure about his jaw, its probably natural?

    i think jake has recently got his nose redone and possibly some other things too. 

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    he already had a nose job before iland if you compare him to his predebut pictures but i think his nose looks different now compared to a year ago. though he's not wearing as much makeup in the second photo so i guess you have to take that into consideration

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  11. 7 minutes ago, elseelseelse2 said:

    Thank you! I really hope Kai never touches his nose - my nose is almost exactly the same shape and I used to hate it, especially the bump. If I'd had money when I was a teen and more obsessively into kpop and its hatred for any nose that isn't straight and dainty, I would've shaved it down. I can't really see the eye lengthening for Soobin but I can see the bleph and the lips especially, he got the cherry lip trend. I never would've spotted that without this thread, he's been conservative with it (so far...i won't tempt fate after I left comments here in 2018 that lips fillers would never catch on in Korea and Asia...).

    Taehyun's eye and nose work are tragic, and he was what...16-17 when he got them 😞 I wonder if it's the same surgeon for Enhypen who is obsessed with the wedge ski slope nose. For Beomgyu, is the middle picture edited? It looks like he has some chin fillers. He's kind of been throwing me off since with his long hair (which I love), like he looks more...dolly than before? I can't tell if it's just the hair or his face has become more dainty looking.

    being into kpop definitely messes with your self perception 😭 back in 2016/2017 when i was really young and vulnerable and saw idols get lots of these procedures i had a whole list of things i wanted to get done once was old enough and got enough money.

    the soobin lip filler thing was pretty predictable, he's acknowledged many times how his lips are naturally thin and he wishes they were bigger. i remember in a vlive with him, beomgyu and yeonjun, soobin said he was jealous of yeonjun's "naturally" full lips, and that vlive wasn't long ago i think sometime this year? maybe they say things like that to try to be more conservative about it and make people think they haven't gotten anything done? idk cause why else would he call yeonjun's lips natural when they clearly aren't.  not sure about the chin fillers for beomgyu but i think his change of image could be weight gain

    i agree, hybe's surgeon is making all of their noses look the same.. i thought sunghoon's nose pre debut was so cute. now they even gave jake a nose job when his naturally bigger-ish nose was his charm. also idk how reliable this is but according to dr myung jung lee taehyun got his nose done at 15, so 2 years before his debut. it's crazy how normal things like these are these days though, for example with wonyoung who we've been discussing a lot lately, she had work done at as young as 13.

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