haiiiizies.... hai

either anton from riize has very upturned mouth corners naturally or he got them done (and CLEARLY) cuz

could be editing cuz the recent pics of him from the front and a 3/4 view show him with much softer features. and those teaser pics r always edited idk any company that doesn't edit such pictures.... but i do believe it IS possible for him to have gotten that much stuff done since around may – and while i haven't exactly kept up w him, i do think he had enough time for facial contouring (Swelling takes 3 to 4 weeks to reduce).

did jay chang get facial contouring done cuz... cheekbones gone, chin narrowed slightly (was wide and square but is now more rounded), eyebrow bone kinda smoother idk if they'd go that far so that's 99% a reach cuz his asymmetrical eyelids got altered and r now deep and symmetrical, which could give the more "open" look to deep-set eyes. his nose looks the same imo but maybe an alarplasty cuz his whole face got narrowed, meaning his nose could look wider proportionally? like it fits his face like before and looks the same, but if it still does that PROPORTIONALLY and his cheekbones (and maybe jaw! idk) were altered........ i'm too lazy to find the pictures but ik someone's gonna post about it so yea

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i noticed that and commented on the zygoma reduction far far back so i'm w you on that! his eyes seemed bigger but not enlarged, his face seemed narrower and more "proportional" – which then made me notice his cheekbones and how their reduction emphasised his other features. but... i still stand by my finding it weird there aren't any scars in terms of a possible face lift, even in the more HD pics found by anyone in this thread. cuz look at this predebut still-shot: it looks the exact same as the pic i suggested showed a "fused earlobe"... like he might actually just have that type of ear. his face doesn't look "tight" either in the ways i've seen even subtle face lifts do. here as well, the ear lobe isn't defined round, it just blends into the jaw kinda. so i actually fully agree w this post

damn. could there be any other explanation for the pixie ear thingy cuz a FACELIFT at his young age is almost unrealistic to my ears but then again... i agree w the cheekbone procedure so if the face lift was done to tighten, that'd make sense but like the reason why i'm asking if there are other possible procedures that could change the ear lobe is bc... where's the scarring. there's usually, even in the best cases of a facelift scarring along the ear, which would create the pixie earlobe thingy. wait... there seems to be some kind of fusing of the earlobe into the skin here wtf but it's as if the rest of the ear is scarless.... is there an ear procedure where pulling the earlobe changes its look from the front in a preferable way? cuz what

i loveeee how she has a slight arch to her brows and not the completely straight flat ones she had before omg. to add onto my other post, i do think she had her eyebrows look straight to combat her eyelids, as they made her eyes look more 'fierce' at times (or what can be associated with having a more stern look as a facial expression), whereas she now has more "soft" curves to her eyes, so an arch was allowed. does this make any kind of sense

having kept up w the girls for a while now, it seems she got hers done fairly recently. she has it in normal pics posted on her personal instagram and loossemble's official account, so it's safe to say she got them done. that's really the only change i've seen on her face, but it's gigantic as the lengthened eyelid-creases change her proportions by making her eyes taller and wider towards her nose (slightly). this is due to her having had infold double eyelids in the past, and now having gotten the wonyoung-special, she has outfold double eyelids. it's as if the outfold double eyelids open up to the space between her eyes, kinda undoing the illusion of her eyes being further apart than they are, as infold double eyelids kinda create a barrier, emphasising the space between the eyes. The different double eyelids are pictured below. Before: Now:

either she had her eyes opened, is wearing circle lenses or had her outer corners cut to elongate her eyes. or a mix!

yeah your mandible doesn't have to be completely gone (taeyeon) but still. in the jaw shave examples where the mandible was kept (although smaller), it was still altered in a way eunseok's really doesn't appear to be.

i find that filled cheeks or a clearly done nose is never the thing making someone look uncanny. i always find the eyes to be the defining trait. if they're opened too much (idk the procedure), it can look frightening and weirdly not-human, which i associate w 'uncanny' – this is why i also found eunseok slightly uncanny; his eyes, like txt taehyun's, are just open in a way that feels unnatural.

If it's riize eunseok we're talking abut, he definitely has a mandible angle so no jaw shave... and an indent in his nose so no implant. i still think his nose tip looks different from the front though.

i think i've said it before on here but have you guys noticed how people having done their eyelids with the newer scar-free technique end up with both their new crease (which often looks natural and not surgery-deep) whilst still having the ghost indents of their past eyelid folds? take wonyoung and wonbin as examples. wonyoung (ive) wonbin (riize) What do you think?

do they? wasn't it discovered that they don't really dissolve, just migrate? pretty sure you have to get your filler dissolved professionally.

Did Yeonjun get his lip filler/lip implant removed? like does his top lip not look way way smaller than normal? (it looks more natural at least) I know it's not the same pose but compare his lips to these...

i don't remember the consensus about eunwoo but looking at his past photos and present... i think one of the main 'refining' minimal changes done was honestly an epicanthoplasty; his inner corners are way more visible, sharper and wider/longer. his eyes look elongated as a result and his proportions look more "balanced" and "harmonic". it's done VERY tastefully, very naturally, but i find it rather clear when comparing his earlier photos to more current. i know there's the stuff w his jaw and masseter muscle, but when looking past that he still looks different overall. and i think it's his inner eye corners doing the work.

why does felix' face suddenly look like his debut face again... like he isn't narrow in the lower-face like he was around God's Menu and all the other releases since then. now he has a wider lower face? I'm a little confused cuz he seems to be the same weight. he must've stopped w the jaw botox

if you wear eyelid tape, do your eyelids snap back to their og shape immediately after removal of the tape? i remember watching some video of a girl explaining how eyelid tape works and how one's eyelid shape can change slightly for a few minutes after removal IF they've worn the tape throughout the day.

if anything her face just looks narrower - overall smaller. either weight loss or buccal fat removal cuz look at her cheeks before and after... i noticed in certain shots in their music video for Spicy that her cheekbone looked awfully small, smooth and just... not natural. maybe she got a cheekbone reduction? just a tiny one? like from those plastic surgery channels from SK on youtube, it seems very normal for a patient to get "facial contouring" done (jaw reduction, chin reshaping and cheekbone reduction). it's a procedure i kinda expect from idols who look different but i can't place my finger on the slight change... like maybe the eyes look slightly bigger, the mouth more prominent and the nose more apparent... and it's bc the face looks smaller (narrow) overall, making their features stand out. Sung Hanbin is one i'd say had his cheekbones reduced cuz his face... even when he lost weight, he still somehow now has a smaller face than before + his eyes look larger without having the 'done' look to them. proportions!

funniest thing is... Next Level has a literal shot where they zoom into Karina's eyes and you can clearly see her epicanthic fold. compare that with her eyes today... yeah she got her inner corners done

honestly wonyoung just looks to have gained some weight in the face as of recent. like i seriously don't think it's more than that

never noticed it but Haknyeon seems to have gotten a hair transplant - earlier i saw a pic captioned “haknyeon’s 5 head” or something and it reminded me of this video… cuz look how full and completely straight his hairline is. reminds me of Yoongi’s

u guys seen the haruto homophobic comments video? nasty man

while you're right, some idols are not very smart, eunwoo has continuously chosen to post specific pictures showing support for queer people... and someone on this thread said (a while back) he once spoke of yearning for marriage or for a partner, specifically staying gender neutral - idk. at the very least he seems supportive!!

anyone saw eunwoo's post w the shirt saying "will you be my boyfriend girlfriend... queer* friend?"