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  1. “Extremely shitty vocals” yeah no. Definitely weaker than their seniors but let’s not act like 127 doesn’t outsing 99% of 3rd gen boy groups. Xiaojun isn’t the only good one in NCT, he can’t touch Doyoung/Taeil in mixed lol in fact and Jaehyun is better as well. Let’s be objective here.
  2. I don’t have much hope for that future Japanese unit but let’s see. Japanese vocalists aren’t really technical from what I’ve heard, however if they train the main vocalists why not. After all 99% of Chinese idols don’t support but SM has trained some decently (Ningning for example, I don’t count Xiaojun because he was the same before joining SM)
  3. My theory is that the Dreamies weren’t supposed to be main vocalists in their future unit. China line was meant to be in Wayv and I doubt they would be main vocalists with Xiaojun. Haechan was/is 127 lead vocalist. SM vocal training is pretty good, I don’t see any other explanations.
  4. I mean, the difference in skills between their vocalists and the other units. Haechan is not that bad but he seems quite shallow, still show a degree of support around F4. Renjun and Chenle are quite weak, Renjun might support a bit but even his D4 can be weak in support sometimes. Chenle doesn’t support at all from what I’ve heard. I wonder if SM trained the Dreamies properly honestly.
  5. I agree with Taeil being a low aa. Idk what happened and I don’t think he truly « regressed” but that tightness... If he could stop sounding tired that would change a lot of things. He has a pretty well rounded technique. I know that NCT vocalists are basically 127+Xiaojun (I still don’t know what happened with Dream) but I also don’t know Jungwoo’s limit. I already know he’s probably weak to average or something like that but I’m just confused. Some people say he has a degree of support (shallow) up to F4/F#4, others E4... Same for Renjun or Yuta, they are weak but I wonder if they support or not. I really wanted a ballad with 127 main vocals and Xiaojun but it never happened. Excluding 2/4 of the solid vocalists for From Home ? SM is weird.
  6. Thanks for your replies ! I’m glad I see people that are not brainwashed by YouTube. They really convinced me about Jeongyeon being better than Yuri and IU. I need to get out of this app. They wish Yuju regressed, her lower register is better than ever lol. Doyoung possibly supporting higher in mixed in the near future is not far fetched. If he starts supporting Bb4 for his musical let’s act surprised guys. His lower register is promising, I’m hoping for him to not pull a Taemin and develop it a bit. At least down to D3. The aa tier comment... It’s really accurate. Taeil imo might have a slightly better lower register than mix, but he’s so damn tight even on F4 sometimes. Conclusion about Jaehyun : SM should let the boy sings. To me his mix is better than most average vocalists, if he could sing more him being a to aa could be a possibility. I also think Jungwoo should sing more than 3 lines because I don’t know what to think about him and it’s been 3 years... Most NCT vocalists except Taeil/Doyoung/Xiaojun lack material.
  7. Thanks for the quick reply ! I don’t think Jihyo improved either but everyone is been saying this on YouTube. But again... It’s YouTube. If IU can be average I personally have no problem with Jeongyeon being one as well. Her support doesn’t necessarily strikes to me as shallow’(at least up to A4) in general though she does get shallow around Bb4 especially sustained Bb4. She has my favorite voice in Twice too. Lia is definitely not strong, to me she’s very shallow and too heady. I’ve heard people saying she’s around Winter but I don’t hear it. Her approach just seems worse than before.
  8. Hi ! I’m pretty new to this thread. You all seem to know a lot about singing. I have a few questions, mainly about NCT : 1) What’s Doyoung supported range ? Most people say E3-G4/G#4, but I would give him A4 and his Eb3 aren’t bad imo. I would say Eb3/E3-G#4/A4. 2) Speaking of Doyoung, where is he in the aa tier ? His lower register is pretty average but he has a better mix than a lot of aa vocalists 3) Does Jaehyun supports Eb4 ? Or they are just strained mostly ? I don’t know if it’s my ears failing me or people underestimating him. Probably just me. 4) Are these Vietnamese accounts lurking here ? One of them said Doyoung had a decline with F#4 last year (when he started supporting G4 at that time...) and when you posted about him they suddenly gave him G4/G#4. That’s weird... 5) Is Jihyo really that improving ? Her C5’s are still not there, most of the ‘supported C5’ imo weren’t. 6) Is Jeongyeon average or not ? I would say yes. 7) Is it me or Lia is having a vocal decline ? Her A4’s are very pushed.
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