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Ori

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  1. Thanks ! Yeah I know they have No Longer and Timeless but I need to hear Coming Home live because in studio he sounded really good. But I appreciate the links (gonna watch it again I guess)
  2. Wow SM really did nothing for Doyoung vocally then... He really sounded better predebut than during the majority of his career. Well now he’s improving at least, he might come back with this approach around F4/F#4. I’m also confused by that F4 lol but it’s probably just well placed. If they could sing their ballads live it would answer a lot of my questions about Jaehyun.
  3. Hendery kind of pings sometimes, same for Lucas. Especially Lucas lol, he seems to enjoy attention in general no matter the gender. Yangyang and Kun are most likely straight. Not trying to ship or something but Xiaojun and Jaehyun were really sus during NCT 2020. And that clip of Jaehyun checking out Xiaojun is iconic lmao
  4. I wouldn’t say Jaehyun is aa for sure. But when I compare him to other average vocalists he seems stronger. I hope they will do a ballad where he truly sings someday. For now I’m inclined to put him as a low average to above average vocalist. At worst at the top of the average tier.
  5. I agree about Sungjae. Also I’ve never understood why people give him D4 only in mixed. He clearly supports higher than that. I thought Key could support a bit. Weak support a la Yuta/Suho but still present. Again sorry for asking about Jaehyun again but he’s really confusing. Everyone seems to agree that he’s average just below DK and that his support stops at D4... But his Eb4’s are pretty nice ? Even his E4 aren’t bad. I think he could be better than average. He just never sings Eb4/E4 for some reason, always below or above it. What is his supported range in your opinion ?
  6. Also I saw somewhere in this thread that Sungjae, V and Key aren’t baritones. And I actually agree. Why do they support so low, that’s weird though
  7. To me Haechan is relaxed/shallow up to F4 but it’s so shallow and nasal... I can see the arguments about him having D4/Eb4 though. Ninging supported B4 predebut if I remember well. Ten as Ten of NCT ? Well I would still say Giselle is stronger but not by a lot. I think she just lowers her larynx a lot.
  8. Really ? I thought Big Hit kind of let them be. They seem to control Jungkook a lot for some reason I agree with that.
  9. I wish SM would wake up and let Aespa sing live. Even though Stayc isn’t strong they do and that’s very important for the GP.
  10. Same. Wooyoung might be sus, Yeosang too though
  11. True true, I’ve never seen some of these clips. I’m gonna watch it Edit : I didn’t recognize Ningning. She really sounds like Bada
  12. Hongjoong seems like the type of guy who doesn’t care about gender
  13. People are pretty picky when it comes to NCT idk why. I can’t think of many 3rd gen boy groups where a sub vocalist can support (127 and Yuta). Or simply a boy group with more than 1/2 vocalists with proper support. Aespa also debuted like 5 months ago, we should give them time. I remember when 127 debuted and everyone acted disappointed with Doyoung and now here we are.
  14. Thank you ! I knew he was good but not that good. The head voice can give him a boost, the lower register too personally I don’t have problem with him being aa. A bit like Yechan. I’m really excited for the musical, he will have his resonant moments for sure.
  15. We can agree on this. You can only improve if the coach teach you the right things and if you really want to. Speaking of Yonghoon, can someone tell me a bit about his technique ? He seems to support his head voice. Edit : we should stop praising SM for Doyoung case because boy just trains outside. You go Doyoung
  16. I actually really agree with what you said about SM vocal training. The great scouting plays a lot. What I meant by pretty good is that they are decent. Unlike Big Hit or Fantagio lol. Actually I’ve heard Doyoung is training with SM coach because Taeyong mentioned it somewhere. I think Doyoung wants to improve and the vocal coach is good enough to help him, which wouldn’t happen if he was in BH. (I also freaking love Doyoung, if there’s someone in NCT that can be better than aa it’s him. Crazy to think he strained above F#4 before).
  17. I agree that for an SM group they aren’t great. But you said they had “shitty vocals” which is quite different (a bit disrespectful as well but anyway). SM always had some weaker vocal groups, F(x) only had Luna for exemple. And I don’t know if you saw all the comments about NCT but Xiaojun technically isn’t close to 127 best vocalists. Doyoung supports up to A4 pretty well, Taeil G#4 consistently. I’ve yet to see Xiaojun supports a G4, or even resonate a G#4. So no they aren’t in the same tier ; Taeil/Doyoung are above average vocalists, Jaehyun is arguable but he’s at the top of the average tier at the very least and Xiaojun is a mid average vocalist from what I’ve heard. There’s a gap
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