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I think Hyunjin has most likely had some sort of chin implant fairly recently. He used to have a rather weak jaw/chin. It was more blunt than v-shaped. Now his chin looks stronger, sharper, and more pronounced. It also looks slightly longer and more v-shaped. (No other major changes are sticking out to me but I could easily be overlooking something.)

Thoughts on actor Song Kang? I'm suspicious of his jaw. The mandible angle is very weak which makes me think he may have had some sort of jaw shave. However, his jaw (and his face in general) looks pretty much the same to me now as it did in his predebuts. The weird thing is that the only predebuts of him I could find are from late high school (graduation?). It's quite possible that he had work done before they were taken. Please let me know what you guys think! (I kind of suspect his nose as well but once again I don't see a major difference from the predebuts I have. I also think he may have had some more recent botox/filler work because his face often looks a overly tight to me as of now.) Let me know what you guys think!

He looks natural to me? I see double eyelids since he was a child and his nose also looks pretty much the same to me.

Thoughts on The Boyz Juyeon? I've seen him talked about before on this thread and other places but mostly in passing. (In whole group posts). I wasn't sure I agreed with all the opinions I saw so I wanted to take a closer look. Firstly, I'm pretty sure he had double eyelids done. There was no visible crease before but now I clearly see one. I don't think he did anything else to his eyes, however, because the overall shape looks the same to me. The next feature I've seen discussed is his nose. I'm not sure if he's had work done on it or not. The 3/4 view is the pretty much the same and without makeup the width of his nostril and alar area looks pretty much unchanged to me. However, I think it's possible he had some minor tip sculpting. The tip seems to have always pointed down when he smiles but now it seems more defined? It's kind of hard to tell in my opinion. Finally, I've seen speculation that he might have had a smile lift. I know next to nothing about this procedure but I have heard it causes a certain "look." I do agree that Juyeon's lip corners look turned up, but it also seems to me like they were that way predebut as well? At least to some degree? (They may be more so now.) I don't trust myself to guess whether or not he had a smile lift because I simply don't know enough about the procedure and its results. I would love to hear other people's opinions though! Overall, his eyes, nose, and possibly lips look suspicious to me. Everything else looks pretty similar before and after, though I could be missing something. Once again, I would love to hear any other thoughts! Also, it's his birthday today so Happy Birthday Juyeon!

It looks like nose fillers to me? His bridge is noticeably higher but I don’t see any of the telltale signs of an implant. I think both he and Junho have had fillers in their noses though Woollim tends to over-contour which does make it hard to tell. I think Hyeop’s had them since joining Woolllim (after Produce) while I think Junho has been getting them for longer. (Since before Produce?). Hyeop could’ve also had some minor tip refinement but honestly his nose minus the bridge height looks pretty similar now as it did before to me.

My overall thoughts on SF9 (for now) Hwiyoung, Chani, Zuho - natural Youngbin - natural? (there are not many good pre-debut pics so it's a little hard to see but from what I've seen he looks natural to me.) Taeyang - natural? (his nose does look slightly less prominent on his face now than it used to but I think that's mostly due to makeup and natural growing into his features. (He debuted quite young.) There are recent pics of him with no to minimal makeup in which his nose looks pretty much the same size and shape that it used to. A blepharoplasty is possible as well because sometimes his eyes look more wide open than before. However, his eyelids also fluctuate and look different in different pictures so I'd say probably no blepharoplasty, though I could be wrong.) Inseong - nose job (with implant?) (this one threw me for a little while because the change in his nose is very subtle. It has always been fairly sharp but I think it is slightly more defined now, especially in the tip. Sometimes when he smiles, or when he's singing his high notes, the tip points down strangely which I don't think was the case predebut). Dawon - nose job with implant (I think his nose job is quite subtle and hard to make out especially given how few predebuts we have of him. He also lost a lot of weight. However, I do see some clear changes in his nose. The first is in the tip. In the predebuts, it looks like the tip of his nose points slightly downwards, while now it is at more of a 90 degree angle (neither downturned nor upturned). The other change, which makes me think he got some kind of implant put in (most likely silicon), is that his nose bridge now starts higher on his face. It used to begin right below his eyes. (His nose was on the "flatter" side). Now it starts about level with the middle of his eyes. The implant also seems to show up sometimes when he smiles or stretches his nose in an unusual way). Jaeyoon - nose job, epicanthoplasty?, jaw shaving? cheekbone shaving? (Jaeyoon is the hardest for me to pinpoint anything on simply because I could only find one predebut picture good enough to compare to now. Based off the picture, I see his nose looks smaller/more defined, his eyes look wider, and his jaw and cheekbones are less prominent. Honestly, I don't think one picture is enough evidence for me to formulate an opinion on whether he's done most of those procedures. His nose is the only thing I'm fairly sure about. As of now, it looks very similar to some other operated-on noses. In my opinion, it seems a little too small for his face and overall narrow and slightly pinched looking, especially in the nostrils.) Rowoon - I'm splitting my thoughts for him up into what I think he might have had done predebut and what I think he might have had done more recently Pre debut: Nose job with implant, eyelids - (This much is pretty obvious to me. His crease used to be very shallow and barely noticeable (in some pics, not noticeable at all.) Now the crease is deeper and more apparent which is most likely the result of double eyelid surgery. As for his nose, it looks longer, sharper, and more defined than it used to which is likely due to some sort of implant though there may have been other alterations to his nose as well.) More recently (as in this past year): botox and fillers, 2nd nose job, epicanthoplasty?, jaw shave? - (His nose looks more defined to me, especially in the tip, than it did after his first nose job. His nose has also started to look unnatural to me and overly pinched and thin. To me, the implant is even more apparent now than it was before. I think this change is due to some sort of second nose job he might have gotten more recently. I also see changes in Rowoon's face as a whole. It looks tighter to me and like he has less mobility. I think change this is probably due to fillers and botox. His jaw in particular looks more taut and his chin slightly pointier than before which could possibly be the result of a jaw shave. However, the change doesn't seem very drastic to me, so I think more likely the change is from botox in his jaw and fillers in his chin. Given the long recovery period that comes with a jaw shave, I think (and hope) that he hasn't had any shaving done. I also think it's quite possibly that Rowoon has been getting botox and fillers done for a long time, which could explain some subtle fluctuations in his jaw line. I think that I'm most likely only noticing a bigger change there now because he went a little "overboard" with them recently. Finally, his eyes have been looking more wide open as of late. In one photoshoot, it seemed like his epicanthic fold had pretty much disappeared. However, I'm guessing the photo was edited because in other pics his epicanthic fold is still present. This makes me think he might have had a more conservative epicanthoplasty. It's also possible that botox in his eye area and or cheeks are responsible for making his eyes appear more wide open. Likely, we'll have to wait and see. I want to say thanks to @wijifox for their reply to my early thread. It really helped me formulate some of the thoughts above. As always, I'd love to hear anyone else's opinions!

Thank you so much! I’m still not the best at sporting procedures and what you’ve said is really helpful! Thanks especially for Inseong and Jaeyoon - they were both driving me up the wall. In Inseong’s case, because I saw changes in his nose sometimes but in other pictures it looked very similar to before. (I think whatever he got done to it was very subtle and therefore harder to spot.) For Jaeyoon, it was the sheer lack of predebut pics. I’ve always thought his nose looked too small for his face/ sort of unnatural, but I was questioning myself. I agree with you that it looks like Rowoon has gotten more work done and I think it’s a real shame. (There’s so much pressure in this industry to look perfect 24/7). Hopefully most of the stuff he’s gotten done recently is temporary and will go away with time. Though it’s entirely his choice, I would be really sad if he lost more of his unique beauty.

Thoughts on SF9? Prt. 2 For Dawon, I see differences in his nose. I'm pretty sure there was some sort of implant put in. The nose now starts higher on his face than it used to and in some pictures when he smiles I can see what looks like the line of the implant (kind of like Rowoon). Pre Debut (These are the only ones I could find in which he is old enough to compare to now.) Now: (I don't like using teaser photos because they are usually highly edited but in this one I see that his nose begins higher on his face than it did in his predebuts). Here I see what looks like an implant: He has extremely thin inner double eyelids which may or may not be natural (the predebuts aren't clear enough to tell). I'm leaning towards natural because I don't see any signs scarrage but I could be wrong. I would love to hear anyone else's opinions! (I'm planning to post on the rest of the members as well)

I believe so. I've heard people say a jaw shave is possible for him but it looks to me like his jawline fluctuates with weight loss/gain. Pre Debut To be continued (right before debut and at what looks to me like a low weight): 2018 weight loss before and after: https://www.kstarlive.com/news/2018/06/12/ASTRO-s-Cha-Eunwoo-Dieted----Here-s-How-He-Looks-Like-Before-and-After-Weight-Loss-5971624 Now: He has gained more weight/muscle now: https://www.kstarlive.com/article/2019/06/24/astro-s-cha-eunwoo-was-spotted-bulking-up-his-body-and-he-is-hot-af-hd-photos-238483 Also, his official weight was 64kg or about 141lbs but he recently revealed he actually weighed 73kg or 161lbs. I think it's quite possible that he did at some point, probably early in his career, weigh 64kg and has gained almost 10kg since, which would explain the fluctuations in his face.

Any thoughts on SF9? Rowoon looks like he's had his eyes and nose done to me. (The nose might just be an implant, I'm not sure). Taeyang looks like he might be mostly natural to me? I think a blepharoplasty is possible but he has multiple eyelids that look like they fluctuate to me so I'm not sure. Pre Debut Now Hwiyoung also looks mostly natural to me though I could be wrong. Pre Debut Now I'm not sure about the other members. I need to do more research.