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Mark gay for Kang Daniel. It’s Danmark fam Everybody this is meant to be a joke

Hasn't "queer" become like a synonym for "lgbt+", "not straight/cishet" officially, like people have pointed out "queer studies", "queer media" etc. Though I remember in Lil Nas X's MTV performance, the word was censored. I suppose one needs to be mindful about who they’re around. Like mentioned before, US South; older people from (grew-up/lived in) Anglo-countries. They might have painful memories associated with it. Edit: With “fruity” “fruitcake” etc. Since it was used to refer to gay men in particular, obviously they can reclaim it and use it themselves but it depends on how they feel about other people using it??

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black Reham. I might have had an unhealthy obsession with Taeyong (not really anymore), but you are on another level. "First, you are straight, so you have no room to speak". I am definitely not straight, but I lean towards men more frequently (I don't know why, it's just the feelings I get). Aren't you straight yourself, so aren't you just being hypocritical?? "You really get your sources of Wikipedia"...uhh yes the references are scientific articles. And the main reason I gave that link, was due to your crazy claims that gay people weren't born that way...instead being due to sexual abuse, not having father/mother figures, dressing up in drag leading to same-sex attraction. "While there is no single "gay gene", there is overwhelming evidence of a biological basis for sexual orientation that is programmed into the brain before birth based on a mix of genetics and prenatal conditions, none of which the fetus chooses". I'm not going to engage with you again Reham.

This is the type of beliefs Reham holds, she’s astonishingly stupid “No one is born gai and you can prove it you all know it’s childhood trauma and s3xually molest at very young age”. Well Reham, give this a read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation “The relationship between biology and sexual orientation is a subject of research. While scientists do not know the exact cause of sexual orientation, they theorize that it is caused by a complex interplay of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences.[1][2][3]Hypotheses for the impact of the post-natal social environment on sexual orientation, however, are weak, especially for males.“ “The influence of hormones on the developing fetus has been the most influential causal hypothesis of the development of sexual orientation.” Well Reham, this is also a gay man (Actor Luke Evans) You need to check yourself before coming for people on here

Oh my, even I’ve gotten a mention “who’s obsessed with NCT Taeyong’s sexuality” well she ain’t wrong there If we did have a Korean here, I would prioritise Sehun before straight men doing couple skinship at amusement park

hELP I think the biggest question here is what is “gai”?

I think a lot of people are a little gay even though they use the “straight” label/box. It’s hard to put labels and boxes when it comes to feelings as sexuality is a spectrum But lmao you wouldn’t hear an officially straight married guy comfortably say that on national tv in my country that is more gay-friendly than Korea. That post is funny as hell, umm Rain?? Bit OT, but Ellen said when she started her talk show in 2003, she wasn’t allowed to say the word “gay”. I wonder if “his/her booty shake made my heart flutter a bit” was allowed though”?

I won’t be having a meltdown lol. I’ll be like “uhhh strange I wish I could ask personally what those receipts meant” and move on. Also how would we ever know what his sexuality truly is unless we know him personally/intimately? Queer people can obviously lie to their own parents, even their own (straight) partners. It’s just that apparently you’re a “dunce” for thinking he isn’t straight…when we’ve got the man asking his members whether it’s ok to say his heart flutters because of male fans, which leads to him nervously saying he likes men But he said it as a joke right? Why was he so nervous for a joke? Either everything was next level Exo/SM queerbait conspiracy forced on Sehun or he just isn’t straight

“Ya Dunce” !?? Baekhyun just saying Sehun’s not interested in girls and no other receipts would not be significant…it’s that taken into consideration with everything else. For example, Taeyong in a 2017 interview said he’s not interested in the opposite sex many times, and for a while I thought it meant he was gay, but now I think he meant dating. For example his song Love Theory, awkward guy, quirky/unique, Bubu, literally said love is very very difficult for him and feels like a science to him; seems to want a particular type of female partner? I.e Whiplash, BDLI; his personally written Soundcloud/Station lyrics refers to females etc. (For the record, I don’t think Taeyong is fully straight, but that interview isn’t why). “it's a common way of saying you or someone has no interest in dating”. Yes, and if that means dating girls, you can imagine a gay idol would not have much interest in it? Maybe at that stage he hadn’t come out to them yet (I don’t know if he’s ever come out to them), but either his group members noticed his disinterest in dating (girls) or, as an explanation for his disinterest in girls, he told them he’s just not interested in dating. “never heard of people reading a script, never heard of queer baiting or fan service. male idols say cringey romantic things about the same sex all the time and it's a completely normal thing and none of them take it as an actual sexual exclamation or advance the way non-koreans would.” Oh my god. 22:33 So when Chen and Xiumin ranked Sehun second in their rank of Exo members Ryewook (radio host) would not want to date if he was a girl, saying it’s not because they dislike Sehun but because it’s the opposite sex, and Ryewook said “because of privacy, we will skip the reason”…it was scripted, queer bait, fanservice, or a cringey romantic thing??? Then we have this Sehun: “Sometimes…I just think to myself that when I look at you (Chanyeol), it gives me a thrill of joy. Chanyeol: “Go on” Sehun: “Why? Why do I feel this way about a guy? I also thought about this too and umm I really don’t know” Chanyeol: “Ok that was Sehun crazy-talking” If “male idols say cringey romantic things about the same sex all the time and it's a completely normal thing”, then why did Chanyeol say Sehun was “crazy-talking”?? This seems deeper than the typical male idols saying romantic stuff to each other. Dude really said he thought about why he feels this way about a guy. And for the icing on the cake, which you didn’t address in your reply Regina… Sehun: “There were really many male fans. They were cheering and waving at me, and I actually felt my heart flutter! It’s ok to say that right”? (what the heck) Baekhyun: “Yes” Xiumin: “Of course, it can happen of course” Sehun: “To have male fans liking us…I feel very honoured! So I noticed there were many male fans…” Xiumin: “So now are you saying that you like male fans”? Sehun: “I like…men” *A member hits him* *Sehun looks embarrassed as hell* Sehun: “Anyway…uh…is everyone having fun”? Baby Sehun looked progressively and progressively more nervous and his face was kinda red when he said “I like men”, touching his cap and all. People on this thread are speculating idols are gay/mlm with little evidence, vague evidence…yet I’m a “dunce” for thinking Sehun is into men when we’ve got the above?? And what apparently refutes everything is him saying he’s not gay on Instagram Live in response to a comment? Maybe he realised he has a career to maintain and build (acting, brand endorsements etc), also military enlistment, so it’s probably not the best thing to have gay rumours going about (even if it’s just on the International side), despite sharing his journey of sexuality discovery with fans earlier in his career. Daewhi said he’s not gay, Jo Kwon said he’s not gay, Ren may have insinuated he’s not gay in posts by that Ren poster. All three are strongly thought to be gay. Yes Sehun wasn’t forced to answer that question but does that matter? Is it hard to believe that a gay idol who doesn’t want gay rumours out of fear, would want to deny it? Heechul may have not denied it as he had nothing to fear (since he leans women). Even if Sehun does have a little attraction to women (any receipts?), I really think it isn’t unreasonable to think he isn’t straight

Yeah same here in Aus. Of course straight guys hug each other. They may get more affectionate when tipsy, (though not like Leo & Xiumin where they look like they’re about to lock lips with romantic lighting and post it on Instagram…maybe Leo and Xiumin are like those straight party girls who kiss/almost kiss and caption “I love you girlie!” ??). Btw, is Katy Perry lgbt? In sports, when they score or win they jump into each others’ arms or on top of one another. There’s also the guys who hump each other for the lolz. Yet they don’t really stand in-line at an amusement park back-hugging like Chen and Baekhyun were doing (that’s such a couple thing to do). Also, do older (say 35+) Korean men do that with their friends? Where is the “no-homo” line in Korea? Edit: based on the post below it seems Seongmin has crossed the Korean no-homo line.

Bizarre indeed. You can “hypothetically” fall in love with same-sex, but don’t actually (or you’ll get made fun of/discriminated against)?? So confusing (This is from a Japanese magazine btw).

He could be bi, I never really thought Taehyung was gay. Edit: Has any 1st or 2nd gen idols come out? Their female fans would’ve matured and have their own partners/families by now. Where’s the Korean George Michael or Ricky Martin? Edit: Why are people clowning this?? I didn’t know about George Michael, that’s really sad. Disregarding how he was outed, I meant where are the gay 80s Korean stars? Or the Korean Elton John, Korean Boy George?

Apparently GD unfollowed Jennie on his private account but is still following the other 3 BP members hELP, some real detective work going on V’s ears look different though, it could be another guy

He look good from behind. Jennie or whatever lucky b*tch (he, she, they), good for them

Yeah my examples aren’t the best, there are better ones but I can’t be bothered right now. In my previous posts, I put Ten and Jungwoo as gay. Most likely to not be straight scale: Ten > Jungwoo > Taeyong > Jaehyun > Yuta But I feel that Jungwoo's antics can be so exaggerated that people easily come to believe everything is an act and fanservice. Yes yes yes Actually, this reminds me a bit of some opinions on BTS' Jimin. Hmm you’re right

I disagree. The guy has not shown any interest in women, whereas even Taeyong has. “A total dude’s dude”, really?? Where?? Here at 8:23 he says Mark puts lip balm on his buttocks and Taeil and Jaehyun’s expressions are like, “oh come on”. (There’s an inside joke that Mark has a big butt and earlier in the video Johnny stuffs his pants to impersonate Mark). The next thing isn’t Jungwoo-related Here all the boys are cheering on the gay tension? I don’t understand Korea…heart-fluttering gay tension is fine and cheered-on, but don’t say you’re gay and have a same-sex partner and all.

How can you not say Jungwoo?? (and Jaehyun for bi)

I wasn’t implying Chen was anything but straight. I’m talking about why do Korean straight boys like Chen do this skinship but (for example) US boys don’t? Are US straight boys being held back from doing this?

Do you have to be so fucking rude?? Yeah I do get out…in my own country. What I’m confused about is Korea. Like when Chen and Baekhyun got mistaken for a gay couple in the US? Is this for fanservice too? Would straight guys in the US (like Chen), also like to do this/want to do this, but can’t because people will think they’re gay? Edit: This isn't me suggesting Chen isn't straight, I think some people misunderstood me

I don’t mean straight idols are releasing their horny needs on other guys…(I know I wrote “hormones” in my og post which I’ll remove)…but more like affection needs. Also I didn’t say “100% heterosexual eww yuck guys can’t stand at all not even a bj with eyes closed”, but “mostly heterosexual”

If Jaehyo’s comment wasn’t fanservice, that means Zico’s actions wasn’t fanservice/staged…since that was what Jaehyo was referring to???

Obviously the kissing or almost kissing on-stage is fanservice, I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about this You’re saying the entire thing is staged/scripted? Zico in fact doesn’t also like boys, it’s all fanservice. But then why when OP posted the screenshot/this video, users liked or think-reacted the post? Damn imagine your paycheck depending on how many times you hungrily kiss your bandmates neck like that, something you wouldn’t do if you weren’t an idol. “obv no straight guy would fulfill his needs with another man anyway regardless of how down bad they are” Doesn’t it happen though? Like in prison? The term “Men who have sex with men (MSM)” but identify as straight (but maybe are really “mostly straight”). Aren’t there straight guys who go on gay dating apps because getting sex is easier than having to court a woman (though they would prefer a woman)? Young straight guys figuring out their sexuality/experimenting.This is illegal now but the whole older man having a sexual relationship with a teen boy during Ancient Greece (yes it doesn’t involve man with man, but man with boy).

In reference to the Zico kissing Jaehyo's neck clip, does the Korean public see what Zico's doing as just "boys releasing their affection needs/hormones" on the boys around them because they don't have a girl/it's problematic if they did it to a girl (who they're not dating)? Is Zico a straight man trying to annoy Jaehyo, so Jaehyo retorts with "Zico also likes men”? I haven't spent more than a few days in Korea so I don't know what real Korea is like. To people who say "it's just korean skinship"...so is there something in Korean straight-men blood that makes them do that and not say US straight-men blood?Would US straight men like to do skinship too, but fear they'll be interpreted as gay? I'm genuinely confused. Why don't Koreans bat an eye to what Zico and the boys are doing? Do non-idol korean boys act like that too? This is kinda gay though ngl...Donghae even looked a bit nervous? If it's just platonic admiration and we're misinterpreting their culture, then why did Eunhyuk tease him with the love song? "Could be dangerous"...I think idols can get away with many things, as long as they don't say "I am gay". He can be straight-passing, but still mlm. Has he said/done anything throughout his years in Exo that suggest he could have an attraction to men?

I don't know much about Suho except vaguely remembering people think he's bisexual for some reason and there's a "Suho is bisexual" video on Youtube that I haven't watched, that's why I wrote "bisexual or straight - Suho (?). If the Kim Donghwan rumour is true then oh my god, 10 years as well!?...why isn't Suho talked about more? And why is it bisexual and not gay rumours?