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NOOOO. What I meant is the penis reacting to the MENTAL STIMULI in porn. Gay men react to homosexual stimuli, the male body...whereas straight men need to see a female body to get going. Yes I am well aware of friction is friction and gay men having children with women. But they don't get turned on by seeing the female-body right? The first poster mentioned Doyoung's possible pansexuality and said "we love him for that". How can you love someone for their sexual orientation, something they don't have control over/no choice. Is a pan person more worthy/lovable than a straight person Edit: or a gay person. Yes my whole masc4masc, ideal body comments came out very poorly and demonstrates a shallow understanding of gay men. I am sorry. I guess it still looks at the same-same aspect. Twinks, bears are male-looking. It's better to just disregard that Masc4masc paragraph. Again, I am sorry.

Flowers boys are popular because straight women like them. But those boys are still boys...they are still men. The ideal male preferred by straight women and the ideal male preferred by gay men are similar, but can vary from country to country. Playgirl had a large gay male following. What I'm saying is that if a straight girl is attracted to a guy (may be muscular, may be flowerboy), a gay guy can be attracted to that same guy...they are attracted to their peers, same-sex attraction. But like any straight girl wouldn't mind a nice chest/stomach on a guy, maybe a gay guy wouldn't mind it on their partner. But it's not a requirement and not all gay guys.

Wait, are you telling me sexual orientation is a choice then??? Look my "gay guys want to fuck masculine-looking guys" was a very general and superficial statement and made it sound like gay men are just horny fucking-machines, which was not my intention and I'm sorry if I caused offence. Gay men are human, individual and have their 'type' just like straight men. I'm just saying you just have to look at the 'ideal' male body which gay men like, such as Gogo boys...biceps, abs, firm butt, nice dick. A male body. As opposed to some straight/bi? men who would fuck men who present themselves femininly, like women. Maybe like those Lady-boys in Thailand or 'Sissies' in porn. Those straight men are maybe really bi but like their men on the feminine side. EDIT: PLEASE DISREGARD THIS POST TOO. GAY MEN WANT A MALE BODY, THAT'S IT.

And do people not know of the popularity of "Masc4Masc" on Grindr? Gay guys want to fuck masculine-looking guys. It's common for users to put how much they gym in their profile. Some dumb fangirls think heterosexually and assume the more feminine or smaller-looking partner must always be the bottom. Nah ah, that's not how it works in the gay world. EDIT: PLEASE DISREGARD THIS ENTIRE PARAGRAPH THANKYOU. GAY MEN HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF IDEAL MEN. THE COMMON FACTOR IS MALE-BODIED

"Doyoung to me doesn't give a fuck lol, he just doesn't care about genders and stuff and we love him for that" I hope you understand that sexual orientation isn't a choice. As far as I've gathered, for males at least, it's what the penis (FROM THE BRAIN/MENTAL STIMULATION) reacts to (scientific studies have been done on this lol...straight vs gay vs lesbian porn). Sexuality has a biological basis, 'born this way'. There's no loving or hating someone for their sexual orientation. It just is. Anyways, Doyoung seems like an open-minded person and a very good friend to Taeyong.

My point still stands. EDIT: HE THEN SAID HE WAS ODDLY MORE COMFORTABLE AROUND GUYS, WHICH MEANS HE INTEREPRETED OPPOSITE SEX TO MEAN GIRLS.

Why I think Taeyong is gay Part 7 This particular Taeten "moment/receipt" At 1:24, Ten throws his neck back. Taeyong stares at him (in awe/wonder), clearly says "yeppuda" (beautiful) and LICKS HIS LIPS. I cannot for the life me comprehend a straight guy doing that. Edit: please ignore the ship-iness of the video

Why I think Taeyong is gay Part 6 This interview from 2017. "TO BE HONEST, I don't have much interest in the opposite sex" "Really. I didn't have any dating experience in my school days. It's TO THE EXTENT WHERE THE MEMBERS MAKE FUN OF ME" "At that time TOO I had NO INTEREST in the OPPOSITE SEX, and ODDLY I found that being around GUYS was MORE comfortable?" He literally...I cannot. If you're you an Nctzen, then you know how sweet and honest of a person Taeyong is. Try and explain away this alongside his numerous other receipts. He said he's not interested in girls...twice, and oddly then refered to guys. Your honour, he's gay.

I'm actually astounded there were people who thought Chanyeol was gay. Like what in the. He always seemed straight boyTM to me. Some peoples' gaydars be real faulty.

How is this more proof that someone is gay than TAEYONG MIMING PULLING UP HIS PANTS ZIPPER AT TEN like in one of my previous posts which is literally gay?

Xiaojun might be slightly bi then, but I don't think he gay. I'm not saying Yangyang is gay either.

Yes Taeyong has/had? a real crush on Baekhyun. And Baekhyun knows. Remember that Instagram Live where Baekhyun says "Taeyong is always attracted to me" and smirks? Then Taeyong gets flustered going "I don't know". It's at 42:11. I suppose this is Why I think Taeyong is gay Part 5

Why I think Taeyong is gay Part 4 This particular Super Car performance. WHAT THE ACTUAL F? From 0:30 when Taeyong approaches Ten, he gestures at him with his thumb, QUICKLY LICKS HIS LIPS THEN MIMES PULLING UP THE ZIPPER/FLY OF HIS PANTS. That move is loaded with SEXUAL INNUENDO. And then they pretend to go in for a kiss and Taeyong nods his head like saying, see what we did there? You can click to watch it on YouTube

He's doing it under the guise of 'comparing it to his own ass'. And when you're not out, touching another guy's butt can be passed off as het boy comeraderie or cheekiness. But Taeyong looks more than that. He has too many receipts. I am telling you, he is gay. He likely in the past had internalised homophobia/in denial/in the closet (e.g. his well-known gay panic/laugh, the "such classmate won't succeed in life because he's gay" would make sense). Then in 2018 he met his famous gay uncle and did that SuperM photoshoot at a Gay bar. He said he liked the place and that it fitted with the concept which he described as 'abstruse sexiness' (it looks obviously gay).

Why I think Taeyong is gay Part 3 WTF IS TAEYONG DOING AT 13:41 CARESSING AND GROPING MARK'S ASS LIKE THAT WITH THAT LOOK ON HIS FACE (AND LOOK AT MARK'S FACE). Look at Jaehyun noticing what Taeyong is doing. Taeyong is known for groping the butts of his members "to compare it to his own because he has no ass". If Taeyong is gay, which he most likely is then what he's doing is dodgy.

Out of that group, Yangyang is the most sus for me, but even then...I wouldn't put him as fully gay Nah Xiaojun is straight.

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For me it's Ten, Taeyong, Jaehyun, Jungwoo and maybee Jeno who are the most sus for being gay. At the moment, I'd put Jaehyun as bi, equal both. Doyoung not on my radar, he's an ally. Yuta seems like someone who flirts with gender expression, like David Bowie. Possibly bi/pan leaning women

Not sure when he speaks Korean, but when he speaks English I don't pick up "gay voice". Ten and Taeyong for example do. But maybe not all gay men have it or maybe it's more subtle in some than others What I meant is like trans vs sexuality. There are assigned at birth males who feel female but still like women. Some effeminate gay men may feel like they have a female spirit but I don't think all gay men do.

Come on we all know Sehun ain't straight

The saesang part was just a small part. Forget I even said it, everything else still stands. NCT/SuperM Ten and Taeyong couple my own hypothesis by following their content (and censorship). Since I mostly follow NCT/ SuperM now... Ten gay. Taeyong gay. Jungwoo gay. Jaehyun not straight. Jeno maybe not straight, need to look into him more

Take out the Saesang part, I'm not using it as evidence for what I think. Though I do think there is some truth sprinkled here and there None of BTS read gay to me. Gay men have a vibe regardless if they look feminine or masculine, it's hard to explain. Part of it is voice. Not high, just gay. I know gay men with deeper voices but they still sound gay. Edit: Look Suga, Jimin, V may be queer but I can't say any of them are gay.

I used to be a devout Army. Moshpit front row. I know many will not like to hear this, but I don't think any of BTS are gay. Not even V. I remember watching a clip where there's this raunchy dance move by a hetero couple and V pretends to mime 'nosebleeding'. He doesn't have gay voice. Saesang info...there are no gay members in BTS or Blackpink and I believe it cause none of them read gay. I've read couple in Ateez. My own hypothesis: couple in NCT/SuperM too at some point (Ten and Taeyong) but more on that later Edit: I mean fully gay

I hope people understand that looking femininly/fab does not necessarily mean that person is gay. On a side note, being a fab or feminine gay or a twink doesn't mean they are bottom like some uneducated people seem to think. There are femme tops. Twinks top. Many drag queens are tops. Anyway sexuality and gender identity/expression are two separate things. I know gay guys with big muscles, beards and like adventurous activities. On the otherhand, there are straight guys who like to crossdress. David Bowie had an androgynous, 'feminine' image and liked women. Freddie Mercury...muscles, hairy and most likely gay (Mary Austin was a beard).

Why I think NCT Taeyong is gay Part 2 In N'13 Johnny's Fashion Evaluation I can't find the video with English subs but I swear at 1:50 Taeyong says "Your butt looks tight (or firm) as usual". A butt looking "tight" is how gay guys describe male butts.