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Mark Lee Bi? I can’t see him having romantic feelings for a guy but he’s not immune to the hotness of guys

I actually think hardly anyone is 100% straight Please, and Taeil had the audacity to say this KAI GAY, TAEIL GAY, MARK GAY

I know it’s not supposed to be lgbt, it’s just fetish-y. It has the seme/uke, monster daddy cock/fragile bottom, size difference, non-con, “bottom looks feminine/reminds him of some female that’s why top is sexually interested in him” tropes to the max This legit looks paedophilic ????

Apparently giving fancy chocolates to a guy around Valentines Day is not gay enough for the gay thread

I read what “Killing Stalking” is about and what the actual…I’m betting 99% that not written by an lgbtq+ male.

I'll finish answering your first reply. I haven’t followed Heechul or Suju that much. I do believe he’s attracted to women and I think him and Momo are real. Momo even wrote an apology letter to Onces (apologising for dating lol). It seems like Heechul's kisses with members on stage were more publicity stunts than him and Momo. I don't know about this possible past relationship with a male non-celeb so I'm not going to comment, but I do remember reading people saying he's shown attraction to female idols, particularly younger ones? Hopefully he's not a creep like Leeteuk, that guy's a creep. He could still be bisexual, what are these “decade-long list of receipts” you’re talking about? " In my experience, men who are very very camp are generally at least bisexual'. In my original post, did I ever say very very camp men are not likely lgbt? I meant it is a narrow view when thinking about lgbt men. Idols like Daewhi, Key, Sunoo (?), have gay rumours from Korean general public, but I hope they don’t think a Korean Luke Evans, Korean Kal Penn, or Korean Rock Hudson is not possible. Following the Isaiah Rashad incident I read a comment saying “N-word don’t even look gay” on one of his videos. Other comments however, on his interviews, are about him being “zesty” or “sweet” or his mannerisms. Even if he does have a male persona and is a comedian, I think Barry Humphries is flamboyant enough to generate at least a little lgbt speculation, though he isn’t Jo Kwon or RuPaul. I just wish there was a variety of openly lgbt public figures men and women in Korea, and in other non-western countries tbh.

One of Taeyong's (producer?) friends posted this please the “…..” Could either be Taeyong being gay or just very sweet, hard to tell with him. Edit: Is he saying it’s not usual for straight Korean guys to give fancy chocolates to other men at all, let alone for Valentines? Maybe Taeyong is expressing his platonic love without worrying about appearing gay? My little sister made me a Valentine’s Day card when she was young (big age gap), but Taeyong’s an adult. He’s confusing. Like on the surface this is gay, even the recipient was thinking it… Edit: This is the box of chocolates. And a Korean said they’re limited-edition which you have to make reservation for omg

I never said stereotypes are absolutely unfounded. Jo Kwon is glass closet and stereotypically fem gay/camp. I’m not saying I think he isn’t lgbt, and if news broke that he was in a relationship with a woman I wouldn’t believe it. I’m wondering, does he have receipts where he’s shown attraction to men? It’s not true in your experience that there are stereotypes who aren’t gay? Hmmm have you heard of Barry Humphries? He’s an Australian known for his drag persona “Dame Edna Everage”, and looks flamboyant in real life when you see pictures of him. He has a wife and kids and hasn’t mentioned being lgbt. He’s a flamboyant straight man. I haven’t followed Heechul or Suju much. I do believe he’s attracted to women Tbc

Lol you’re right that comment was more for myself than for others

Things that have happened in NCity : Taeil putting his head down towards Taeyong’s lap for some reason and Taeyong’s mind clearly going places. Both going “wahhh” lol. Here Taeyong asks Mark how his ass looks today (I think because Taeyong had been working on his flat ass?), and Marks replies with “it looks slap-able”, then gives a panicked-looked towards the camera. (I think in the longer version he also throws a peace sign). Here again we have Mark “no-homo” Lee with confident-gay Jungwoo straddling his lap. The dialogue and Mark avoiding eye contact with Jungwoo… Oh and this moment in SperM City

Completely random but you know the comedy movie series “Harold and Kumar”? Well the actor who plays Kumar, Kal Penn (who’s also an academic lecturer), came out last year and revealed he’s been in a relationship with a guy for 11 years. Like wow. People (not necessarily here but you know) keep citing “femininity/androgyny/yaaasss/fruitiness in idols they think are lgbt but it’s such a narrow view. Did he ping anyone before he came out?

Read the next post. I never really followed Exo so I don’t know a lot about Suho.

My brief thoughts on Exo? Most sus for being lgbt: Sehun, Tao, Xuimin. I can’t see Baekhyun as 100% straight but neither as lgbt. If he was genuinely lgbt, I can’t see him being so open about showering and being naked with other members plus the stuff he’s said. I can’t see him in a romantic relationship with a guy but there may be a little sexual component idk.

I think the others are by and large on the straight side. Though Jhope accidentally saying “Boyfriend” instead of “Girlfriend” could be a subconscious slip lol who knows. Jin saying Brad Pitt is his fav gives straight man-crush and him joke-answering “Who’s your favourite Hollywood crush”? Also him receiving the most flowers (from boys at his boys-only school?) doesn’t necessarily mean he himself is lgbt but that boys liked him. I really don’t think Namjoon Instagram guy friends are his lovers. Also he seems to have become “woke” about lgbt issues over the years. Jungkook seems straight. And I really doubt the 97-Liners went to gay bars in Itaewon during that Covid-scandal lol.

This is what I think of BTS from a non-stan casual perspective. (I mean I used to really stan them around 2017, went to their concert and camped outside the stadium to get front-row in the moshpit lol.) But then I discovered NCT in 2018 and never went back to BTS, though I’m still a casual listener. A lot of the things I’m mentioning I’ve found out from reading this thread. Anyway the most sus are Yoongi, Jimin and Taehyung. Yoongi has said some sus things lol. The lgbt shoes could be because he himself is lgbt or an ally. I don’t think he’s gay gay cause I think I’ve seen him show attraction to girls. Jimin. I need to watch that video where I think it’s Taehyung who goes “I think Jimin likes men” and Jimin goes “I don’t like you/YOU”. Cause it could be interpreted as he’s telling V he’s not into men (I don’t like you), or he likes men but doesn’t like V (I don’t like YOU, RIP Vmin). Nonetheless he generally gives off lgbt vibes to many and him flirting with men, not sure whether cause he just enjoys the attention or is genuinely attracted to them. If I was forced to bet right now I’d go bisexual/pansexual. Taehyung is sus to me because of his interest in lgbt art and media. But if it wasn’t for that he wouldn’t really be on my gaydar (but doesn’t mean he still couldn’t be lgbt). Why does he go “I think Jimin likes men” anyway? Is it cause he’s a straight teasing/mocking Jimin or he’s showing his own insecurities (closeted gay), OR he’s a confident gay openly voicing his opinions (which would be outing Jimin though)?

I know it probably means bisexual. What I’m wondering is whether he’s on the “down-low” and doesn’t notify his female partners of his sexuality? Lol me too

GD liking “half gay” and “bottoms do it better”? I wonder if Jennie knows… “Good Boy” kinda hit different now. EDIT: this is just a joke about him not telling his girlfriends that he sleeps with men behind their backs. I don’t know what the actual situation is like. Also Tao “accidentally” liked a Tao/Sehun NC-17 fanfic on Weibo

“ You’re using those kinds of videos / analysis as proof when they are made by shippers who just show what they want you to see”. Here me out. I selected specific parts of the shipper video which I saw the original whole clip, and thought something was sus. I certainly don’t see every clip in shipper videos as proof and I never go directly to shipper videos to look at whether a ship is real. It’s just that some shipper videos contain the sus part from the original clip…and all three sus parts were in one shipper video, so I thought it was easier to post the one shipper video instead of 3 separate long videos. Like one moment was from a video of NCT127 playing the I Love You game in a VLive. I just needed to show the Taeyong + Jaehyun part (and the other members’ reaction). Have I ever posted a video of “How Jaehyun and Taeyong look at each other” as proof they are real? I think it’s because at least 95% of Kpop shipper videos and ships are bullsh*t that people are skeptical of anything that is associated with a shipper video. Also because they’re from SM and are the visuals + main stars of NCT like I get it. I mean I can go ahead and post the original videos where the clips come from but it’s obvious people on here don’t want Taeyong x Jaehyun talk so I’m not going to bother, also I’m kind of over it. And all I’m speculating is that they may have some feelings (one-sided or two-sided), not that they are going at it off-camera.

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Oh dear what have I started. I totally see transwomen as women. It’s just that aren’t some people who are attracted to women prejudiced against transwomen? It shouldn’t be like that, but isn’t that a thing? I do realise how my comment comes across as transphobic, I’ll change it.

NCT127 + Ten Sexuality (not including gender) Analysis because why not. I think many many people are not 100% straight. Not just in 127 but in Kpop and also general human population. Ten: 100% gay. Jungwoo: Not sure if any attraction to women but…he gay. Taeil: Mostly straight. But you see him and Haechan in BDLI? Yeah not completely disgusted by guys. Edit: Taeil caught in 4K! https://twitter.com/jaeedimples/status/1499011970863087617?s=20&t=0Z25LzhCWdesm4aU7ail7Q Johnny: Mostly straight. Might get high and kiss a dude. Likes to slap asses but who doesn’t. Doyoung: Mostly straight, and with a low sex-drive (Doyoung I’m sorry if this wrong). Didn’t mind running his hand up Taeyong’s leg in Love on the Floor choreo. Yuta: Into women and seems to be the type of free-spirited guy to not be prejudiced with transwomen. Can also see him being into non-binary people. Would flirt with guys for fun. I can sort of see him experimenting with guys? He’s tricky, I need to do more research. Mark: Straight but not as straight as a ruler. His gay panic may be driven by over-fear of his own slight same-sex feelings? Was affected by Johnny’s post bear-fight body. Edit: Mark legitimately has the hots for Johnny. https://twitter.com/jaeedimples/status/1499011970863087617?s=20&t=0Z25LzhCWdesm4aU7ail7Q https://twitter.com/nctmarkarchive/status/1499034702513983488?s=20&t=0Z25LzhCWdesm4aU7ail7Q Haechan: From what I’ve seen he seems straight and either likes skinship and/or is good at fanservice. Jaehyun: Bisexual- female lean? I still think he’s into women. I remember that video of him that looked like he was checking-out a girl. I think he does have some same-sex feelings and I know many people think so to. Taeyong: Lol. I can see him being into anything and everything with his, hers and theys older and younger. I know I previously said bisexual- male lean but now I’m not so sure. I’ve analysed him to death as you guys know. At this point, I’m going with Bisexual/Pansexual which I think describes him the best. Edit: hopefully I removed my previous transphobia. I’m all for being educated.

I'm not using their relationship as absolute proof that they’re in the LGBT brigade. It's just that their relationship is very interesting...it's different and has a possibility of being lgbt. I remember reading a comment of YouTube, “Lately I’ve seen a lot of things about how NCT members get along, I just feel that Jaehyun and Taeyong love each other in a different and cute way. For example Taeyong and Doyoung are truly best friends, and when I see Doyoung and Jaehyun, I feel mutual admiration, and so on with others. Jaeyong is different, I feel it, idk but it’s pure love.” I don't know if I would describe it as "pure love" but Taeyong and Jaehyun do love each other in a different and I suppose cute way. A lot of the fandom feels it, the other members feel it. I don’t know how to define this “different and cute love”. But I think it deserves to be put and discussed in this forum.

And why is that such an impossibility?? I’m taking into account everything from pre-debut and there are many moments that are…hard to explain. Moments where the other members’ reactions are suspicious. The energy/tension when they’re together. Those who know know what I’m talking about. All I’m suggesting is feelings, not that anything has occurred beyond that. I swear guys and girls just have to be seen next to each other for people to make speculations EDIT: And what I mean by “Moments where the other members’ reactions are suspicious” is a group of friends teasing/laughing or get suspiciously quiet when two friends who they know have a crush on each other interact.

No but why did I get negged so much? Was it for suggesting Jaehyun may not be straight? Was it because I said Taeyong and Jaehyun have feelings for each other ? Was it the receipt?

I swear there are feelings between Jaehyun and Taeyong. Recent receipt being Jaehyun’s birthday. Basically it includes Taeyong commenting on Jaehyun’s Instagram Live with “Jaehyun oppa” and “Tell me you love me”….and Jaehyun got sooo giggly and blushy, it was quite sus Here’s some snippets Edit: Aww what the heck man, why all the dislikes? It’s not even solely about Taeyong this time. I’m saying Jaehyun may not be straight.