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    Cool! So, what's your final result? Are them psychopaths? I'm on LJY as sociopath while Min as psychopath. Can person be half sociopath and half psycopath?

     

     

     

    if we were to go along with the technical terms, no. being both sociopath and psychopath at the same time is not possible as both are different. I'm thinking that LJY isn't a psychopath as he as shown genuine emotions in previous episodes. his past seemed to have a huge impact on his mental health. he seems textbook sociopath in the way that he disregards morals and rules of any sort and can commit crimes without feeling like he has sinned. but also seeing how the writers seemed to place a significance on his past and how that shaped him, there are chances that he's neither psychopath nor sociopath. he could just be an extremely "disturbed" individual.

    about Min, i'm not so sure. the writers kept referring to him as "that kind of kid" but it can have many different meanings. min has also shown genuine emotions before. ex) him breaking down after Hyun first confronted Min about his identity

     

    i haven't watched ep 16 and i've started five minutes into ep 15. we'll see  :)

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  2. Let's go episode by episode to see everyone's point:

     

    Episode 1: She did absolutely nothing productive to survive. She rode the coat-tails of the 2Min's plan.

    Episode 2: She was invisible. Lim Yohwan and Kim Kyunghoon were the ones in danger so she floated by.

    Episode 3: She was in danger and she herself did nothing to save her derriere, feeling comfortable that the 9v2 that had formed up in that episode would carry her to the next round, and that's what happened when Junseok was the one to save her.

    Episode 4: Still did nothing to save herself. Floated by this episode.

    Episode 5: Possibly the only episode were she worked a little. She tried to disguise herself by being the key master to make the loyalists win, (I guess) hoping that she would turn it around in the end. I'm not gonna talk about the "Final King" scene, since I can't recall it clearly. Point is, she dug her grave in this episode by closing the door to people that helped get to that point in the season (Kyungran, 2Min etc.).

    Episode 6: She was 2Min's dog in this one, and a bad one at that. Other than that, she didn't really try to help her alliance win. Instead, she was more of a burden, especially in the intermission between Rounds 7 & 8, where she (annoyingly) begged for a garnet. Then, she kind of thought that she wouldn't be picked for the DM, (I guess) because Junseok's a bigger target than her.

     

    Conclusion: Jungmoon, for the most part, has been a floater, since she didn't have to fight her way through the first 6 episodes (as much as Jang Dongmin i.e). What pisses fans off the most though, is her overly laid back "at ease" mindset. She's too comfortable, too often and that translates to arrogance through editing. In other words, the fact that Jungmoon doesn't [want to/have to/feel like she needs to] fight her way through this game, because everyone else is doing it for her is what pisses people off.

     

    +1 for you my friend 

  3. So Jungmoon begged and it's wrong, but when they were talking about making her last in front of her was okay. WTF BRO!!!!!@! AND ALSO JUNSEOK AND HER HAD A DEAL TO GIVE HER A GARNET. 

    i've never said her begging was "wrong". i was implying that begging wasn't a skill that would contribute to her win because i can't justify her still being in the show despite showing nothing so far.

     

    i also never said them talking about making her last was okay either. the reason why they did so because they were never really a "team". jungmoon never showed herself as a reliable team player. she doesn't have any alliances. she was probably on junseok's team because dongmin team was full and he planted her as a spy. giving her a garnet .. this just shows that junseok trusted her and the team. unfortunately for him all three member of his team ended up betraying him. 

     

    Whether or not Dongmin win The Genius or not, most people will agree with me Dongmin is the star of The Genius 4. Dongmin will be the hot favourite to win this season but anyone can be eliminated by just one betrayal. It's anyone game.

    exactly. he takes the spot in everyone's hearts for being such a clever person with both thinking and people skills. truly a hard to find gem in real life. i agree, the possibility of even the smartest player losing and getting eliminated by betrayal is very exciting. what would really blow everyone's mind would be either kyungran or hyunmin betraying dongmin for a win, sending him to the DM and eliminating him. 

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    another thing, i was expecting kyunghoon to crown himself as the sole winner but instead he actually agrees with dongmin about the joint win. what a surprise.

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  4. I'm not sure how many Genius moments she's supposed to have but her pi memorization was good and her convict card moment was pretty good too. Now, let's ask ourselves this too. Let's look at Hong Jinho, he has also not had any genius moments at all this season and I'm partial to him, but he's not getting any hate simply for being the season 1 winner which was brilliant, yes but he's been wall paper here including a crushing defeat in the yut game... So yeah, compared to the so called other "geniuses" there really isn't much of a difference. 

     

    PS. This is not to say she's on second god Jinho's level (sorry JDM is still the king) but let's be honest, she's hardly the only one who hasn't displayed genius...

     

    i have to agree with you that jinho hasn't proven himself at all in this season. but because he was the season 1 winner, people are less likely to judge him as hard because he has proven himself before. we all know of his potential and yes, it is quite aggravating to see him stand like a wall flower. the difference between him and JM is that he doesn't have episodes of desperation. JM's actions leads people questioning whether it were really reasonable and required at all for survival. she could of stayed quiet and trusted in DM but she doesn't have any trust in others (hence the lack of team player quality in her). it makes her, as you said before, a very disposable character. 

     

    it could just be the editing but jinho has had more moments of strategizing on his own compared to JM, who was blinded by her ambition for survival that she is willing to do anything for the winning team. she's shown herself as just a mere follower, and one who is willing to jump ships in just seconds to ensure her own survival. JM's convict card moment wasn't a result of her skill, but rather her greed. she wanted to survive that bad she was willingly to do anything.

  5. If "anyone could have done that" then the simple question here is why has she survived seven rounds when others have been eliminated? It's a very easy thing to say, that. I've heard the same said of Floyd Mayweather.  You very well state that she has survived out of partial luck but you also mention they've cast members for their intelligence, if she's survived seven rounds among "geniuses" based somehow on luck then obviously there's an element of "Genius" about it. 

     

    Again, she's easily my least favorite player here so my only defense here is based simply on the fact that, she has survived seven rounds of a show called The Genius. In her own way, regardless of what we think of it which in a survival show is what matters. Basically, there's a Genius to surviving in the Genius. 

     

    as i stated before, it's literally just luck. ex) junseok chose yeonseung for DM over jungmoon because she chose an odd number. how exactly would there be an element of genius-ness? so, in tangible terms, what is her genius skill? 

    yes, she was casted for her so called intelligence but none of the viewers have yet to see her swiftly show case it (compared to other members). memorizing pi was a surprise but again, it isn't much when comparing her to the other "geniuses".

     

    i'm not exactly familiar with Mayweather so i don't have a response to that comparison

     

    edit: i just saw your signature change and i want to ask, it is really hard requesting for a badge? that's unfortunate since i was planning on getting one for kyunghoon LOL

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  6. The broader picture is that she has survived since the first episode based on very narrow situations from the moment she got that convict card and calmly passed that by. Each episode makes us forget the last but the girl has survived where some of the so called geniuses haven't. That in itself makes it genius.

     

    I think the discourse here reveals what versions we have of what a genius should be. 

     

    We should ask ourselves *sips philosophical tea* what exactly is a genius?

     

    very narrow situations? anyone could of done what she did without the title of "the genius". the cast members were supposedly casted because of their intelligence and that's what people were expecting. instead, we got rounds and rounds of JM's whining. she survived alright, but she survived on partial luck and there's nothing genius about that.

     

    with what she has shown so far, it's hard to picture her snatching a main match win. the number of cast members are decreasing and if she doesn't step up her game on strategizing, she would get crushed by those who could. 

  7. Also why is everyone hating on Jungmoon? She's not my favorite but I not only sympathize with ehr but see where she's coming from. She's a survivalist. She hasn't fully adapted in terms of strategy but she goes about this her own way. She tries to survive and that may be annoying but I admire that. So what of her image? Her goal is to survive each round and guess what, that's how you win people! By surviving each round!! 

     

    She does need to adjust to gameplay though because she's very disposable. 

     

    because she hasn't shown any skills that seem valuable. other players who have proved themselves to have the smarts and motivation at the same time are leaving the show while Jungmoon who only seems to possess the desperation for survive is actually the one surviving. it just doesn't seem fair in anyway. 

    she's come this far because of what again...? the other have proved themselves to have the talent and skills to potentially win. Jungmoon might be very capable of being clever but she has never shown it. instead, she begs for survival and that turns lots of people off. 

     

    edit: i might want to add that everyone on the show is aiming to survive, not only Jungmoon. 

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  8. holy shit!!! that joint win was SO SEXY.  :stud:

     

    i see i'm not the only one really irritated with Jungmoon. jesus christ, i never thought someone would stoop so low. she's desperate beyond belief and she has showed it last ep when she stuck to dongmin begging for her life. she has done it again when the other three were planning out something. she's incredibly selfish when it comes to surviving. i'm so turned off by her obvious manipulation gimmicks.  :>_>: Jungmoon is neither a team player, a strategist nor someone with a perfect bullshit detector like dongmin so i don't see the value in her. she needs to leave. 

     

    LOL @ the background music playing when rewinding the whole Kyunghoon + DM team joint win plan. sounds like ice cream cake remix on drugs 

     

    the bond that Kyungran and Dongmin has is very heart warming to see  :chu:

  9. Go Kyung Pyo has Reply 1988 as a main actor for October slot, so if that comment were true, most probably he wasn't talking about CITT casting, because the time slot of Reply 1988 used to coincide with CITT time slot in the first place. Moreover, Reply 1988 castings were confirmed ages ago (since May-June as I remember?), so he wouldn't audition for a role which broadcast date coincided with Reply 1988, especially it seems like Eun Taek's audition/casting was held just recently.

     

    oops. pardon my ignorance then. i'm glad it most likely isn't true since that would be a stupid move on the casting part..  :meow:

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    6. [+1,355, -88] I remember Ko Kyung Pyo tweeted about how upset he was about being pushed out of a role by a model.. looks like it's hard for actors out there. We need to be using actual actors like Ko Kyung Pyo to improve our movie industry but people only care about bringing in an audience and not the quality of their work.

     

    seriously? anyone who has even read the webtoon would think that Ko Kyung Pyo is MUCH more suited for this role. actually, he fits the role PERFECTLY judging from his past works and even his appearance. but atlas, connections and money speaks louder. nothing against Nam Joo Hyuk but i'm starting to loose respect for the casting directors. 

  11. I don't get the ratings too. Even though the drama is really good. I guess a lot of people don't like murder and crime related stuffs. I know a lot of people like that. (People who lives in denial tbh).

     

    So maybe that's why.

     

    I do feel some "some" between the leads. Even though its "some", it is more than enough for me. I think their relationship will develop more.

    I just hope min don't die.

     

    exactly. i actually think that their romance is very unnecessary because it just doesn't have any coherence with the main plot. i hope the write doesn't push their romance because i think Min would be very very jealous. 

     

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    i've also been on and off the fence as to whether min and LJY are psychopaths or sociopaths. it's weird that he "still doesn't have a heart pulse" but the conversation LJY had with his childhood buddy made him seem more sociopath. Min is probably a sociopath so we have hope of him being "fixed/cured" out of this mentality. I just hope that the writers in this sense won't mix up the technical definitions of psychopath and sociopath since they are different things but it seems like they are already mixing both things up with each other.  :horror:

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  12. damn, what a bumpy ride ep 4 was. never have I thought yeonseung would commit betrayal like that. i was really annoyed with him and junseok but I really enjoy the twist and drama that made everything so unexpected. I want to see Kyung Ran betray next  :hurr: she's such a loyal team player that it's hard to imagine her betraying people and winning alone. 

     

     

    i hope this served as a wake up call for hyunmin. I'm rooting for him but sometimes he can be so unaware of others since he focuses so much on strategy. he's really naive, i guess it's because he's young and what not. from this point on, it's going to be a fruitful battle. dongmin + hyunmin + jinho had already proven themselves to be clever. junseok + yeonseung + kyunghoon proved themselves worthy in this season. yoohyun is known for being clever too. I'm really curious and excited to watch the following episodes. 

     

    i haven't been able to get further yet, wish me luck! *put this in spoiler because it's more fun finding out yourself hehe


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    LOL is that young kyunghoon in your signature? 

    beautiful. 

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  13. omg!!! i never thought i'd be liking them this much since i'm not really a fan of cutesy concepts. i have to admit, they are like a breath of fresh air in the midst of all of these sexy concepts. 

     

    when they were asked to introduce theirselves the girl guest dj "the prettiest 1st"
    sowon introduced herself 1st lol
    goddess knows her place

     

    i agree, she is one of the prettiest.  :chu: her legs too, jesus so slim and pretty.

    her and yuju are my faves  :lub:  

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  14. the cop is scaring me more and more with each episodes. he's definitely hiding something because he seems so obsessed with soon ae and her family. 

     

    one thing i don't understand is how the writers would "merge" soon ae and bong sun's personas together. they seem like polar opposites but somehow they are "on the same wave-length?". and who is kangwoo supposed to actually end up with  :derp:

    my theory is that before bong sun experienced her trauma, her personality was similar to soon ae's. 

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  15. If the rumors from Chinese forum are true, Jinho will be eliminated in epsiode 5 or 6. Let's wait for the episode and find out the truth. If he can survive after epsiode 5 or 6, that means the rumors are all unreliable, and we can believe that he will go far in this season.

     

    i'd be seriously so sad if this happens :( I was waiting for him to take home a beautiful MM win somewhere in the latter episodes because he shined so brightly in the past seasons. but seeing what happened so far, i wouldn't be surprised at all if rumors ended out true. would pretty much break my heart though. 

     

    which chinese forum did you see this on? 

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  16. can't wait to see this. :chu:  i was so hooked with the webtoon that i finished all the released material almost in one day. i'm so glad that suzy turned down this role, for the sake of her own mental health and for the sake of everyone else. just hoping that the remaining cast member's characters would remain true to the story and be suitable for their role other wise that would just be utter annoyance. 

     

    PHJ is perfect for the role.. if YJ were 5 years older though i am expecting to see him styled accordingly for this role. 

  17. Kyunghoon is slowly becoming my favourite player. lol. I know a lot of ppl don't like him but whatever. he is like a nuclear bomb that keeps blowing up on ppl's faces, making the show unpredictable. 

     

    Exactly. the show would be unimaginably boring and predictable with nothing new from the last 3 seasons except for different cast group. we didn't get to see his gimmicks in s3. his personality was always something which was why he was casted. 

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  18. I just had this scary shocking thought..... WHAT IF...... Kyunghoon is supersmart and dangerous !! He planned from the beginning to act/play superstupid in S4. He wants the other players to think he is an idiot and underestimate him. He planned to offer his help to any of the strong players (Jinho, Sangmin, Dongmin, Hyunmin) and then backstab them so that they get eliminated early.

     

    Come On, he is a non-celebrity who was able to qualify for the Genius against a lot of other non-celebrities. He must be smart. Hmmmmmm.....

     

    IF thats true he always considered Sangmin his enemy and foe. Just acting nice and stupid to get into an alliance with Sangmin. Then he said this thing about Sangmins plan out loud twice on purpose. He knew Sangmin was one of the 2 players with low points. Thats the chance he waited for ! He keeps telling other players about the plan. He pushes Sangmin into the DM.

     

    In the preview it looks as if Kyunghoon is now begging Dongmin to team up with him. His next target ???

     

    I just had this thought because whenever Kyunghoon backstabs someone is saying "Oh i shouldnt have done that?" even when he clearly says in the close-up interview that it was his true intention to do that all-along. Hmmmm....suspicious..... :unsure:

     

    yeah i agree that Kyunghoon was probably very smart to begin with. i don't think he was pretending to be "dumb". it's just that his persona is too unpredictable, unreliable and not much of a stable team player. Kyunghoon is like the variable thrown into a game that suddenly throws everything into a mess forcing people to revise their original plan but naturally he doesn't come off as a threat but rather a force to be avoided because he's just too unpredictable. 

     

     

    • Sad that Sangmin has gone. He should have been more careful with putting himself in the spot light. But then again, I think he knew it very well that his best chance in winning TG is by dominating MM since he's pretty weak in DM. The thing is, he's too absorbed in his own game play (maneuvering people left and right), that he forgot the the technicality (i.e. the 1 minute deadline). His biggest mistake is that he thought he can control Kyunghoon. [At this point, who can?].
    • Kyunghoon play the DM very well. But, I think it's still mostly contributed by how he's so unpredictable. In MM, he didn't know what he's doing and with his cluelessness he endengered other player. This kind of people frustrates me the most. At least with people like Sangmin, every action (or betrayal) has meaning/purpose. That IS interesting. Kyunghoon is just a lost cause. We can see how frustrating he is for Dongmin, Hyunmin, Yoohyun. Poor guys having to deal with him in 2 seasons. Imagine how hard Sangmin played the rest of the players in this episode if it was not for Kyunghoon. So, for me Kyunghoon ruined a genius play.

     

    Sangmin was no doubt a very strong candidate with his quick understanding of the situation at any given time. it is indeed a bit disheartening to see him gone so soon because i was starting to get afraid that this would play out like s2 again where Sangmin would monopolize the game. you are spot on with Sangmin's strong skills in manipulating others. he is so good at speaking and convincing others to make deals with him but Kyunghoon in the game, literally nothing is predictable. it's amazing how a player with weak people skills would be the one to throw everyone into a mess.  

     

    in the end, Kyunghoon's unpredictability won over Sangmin since Sangmin relies on reading others to gain cues to win.. but not with Kyunghoon. at this point i would say that Kyunghoon's natural strength that would give him an advantage in many situations is that he is the only player so far to be able to escape being read by the players with strong people skills, namely Dongmin.

     

    from the preview, it looks like we would be getting another episode of Kyunghoon throwing everyone off for the nth time..  :derp:

  19. Wait do you mean between Sehun and AJH or Sehun and Jung Joon young? Because I'm looking really hard for what you guys are talking about and I just don't see it. I felt like Sehun looked more at JJY than AJH, but I didn't really get any sense of attraction from anyone.

     

    And I feel like AJH could def be gay. He has great chemistry with guys. He's also doing a great job of making the characters he plays seem gay. (Yoon Jae's crush on Do Min Joon, and if Park Tae Il in You're All Surrounded doesn't turn out to be gay I'll be surprised)

     

    lollll. if this helps, I was a huge fan of AJH during his modeling days where he haven't debuted as an actor yet. I decided to type in his name on Facebook search (because why the heck not) and found his Facebook account which listed both male and female in his "interested in" section. I'm pretty darn sure that its his fb account because he wasn't well know at all and that was the only account that matched his name and picture. And I forgot to add, after he had his first acting role and became more well known, I couldn't find that fb account when I typed his name in the search box :P he might of deleted it or made it super private. 

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