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Haha..the coincidences you found! HZT, HXM and AB are destined to be best friends forever. 

 

 

 

True. Angelababy is really big...everyone in China knows her. HXM too. Exo is not in their tier yet. Hopefully they will be, but solos and acting makes you bigger than being in a boy group. 

 

 

I still find it overwhelming knowing that Tao went shopping with two of the biggest stars in China. 

 

I would be surprised if it was any other member, but it's Tao so I expect this kinda stuff from him. I always figured with his personality, he'd be the one that has that high class celeb circle.

Omg, Sehun is so lucky to be close to Tao...he gets access to all these big shot Chinese celebs. Guys, do you know how big Hxm and Angelababy are in China? So lucky!

Omgosh i always thought they look alike in a way. Like their aura and lip area. They have the same last name too. Could it be that zitao is hxm's bro? Lol jk but its so funny how angelababy is called AB in china and tao is ab style. So many coincidence. I never knew tao is close to hxm. Seems like exo is really huge in china. They are on par with big stars

 

No, EXO aren't big stars in China. Their popularity is more of a niche base consisting of mainly teenagers, alot of China still doesn't know EXO that well and they're not the force intl fans try to play them up as. But they're seen as up and coming so they have potential and Tao is just really good at making connections with those he meets at these events. Basically he knows how to network, it doesn't really have as much to do with EXO's status in China. Plus him and hxm are from the same hometown so that helps, he even talked about Tao on his instagram back in Jan.

 

Tao's stretching always screams bottom to me. Like, not necessarily exclusively, but that arch he gets in his back? He's used to that position. It's gloriously gorgeous.

 

 

 

 

Idk if this has been posted here already but I was looking through his vids and came across this one..

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPimvq0XO4c&list=UUPCjzA40okvfenioF-EoVAg

 

2:16-2:48

and he gives some opinion on Tao   

 

I've watched his reactions on Kpop videos before (he's hilarious) and man does he have a hard on for Tao (he loves Chen too but not sexually). It's funny to watch him talk about Tao in his videos.

hi thread! can't decide if i'm more jealous of tao because he gets this:

 

or if i'm more jealous of sehun because he gets this:

 

 

 

 

also, i wonder if they watched each other take pictures at this photoshoot too...

 

 

Sehun is gorgeous but I'm more jealous of him because he gets 

 

dat body

 

 

those eyes

 

 

 

dat ass

 

 

 

I'll stop, but I think you get the point 

 

Anyways, both are lucky...no matter what relationship status they have.

 

And probably, watching each other take photos most likely isn't anything new to them. 

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A fan was waiting for Sehun under the SM building, after encountering a few other trainees and staff, she finally saw Tao come down with Sehun. They then returned inside the building. (this is summarised)
Before they went up, there was someone in the practice room on the 2nd floor. The windows were shut but after they were up there the left window was opened by someone. Then I heard Tao (occasionally with Sehun mixed) A /concert/ that lasted nearly 2 hours. This kid [Tao] [sang] from Korean (officially missing you, crooked, missing you, and some others that I didn't know) to Chinese (easy come easy go, I never told you, 我爱å°å¦¹ [i love taiwanese girls], Boy'z songs and others little parts, repeatedly singing "I'm a cheap man ?" just some bizarre song ==) Anyways, [they] sung until nearly 3am, before I was about to be frozen to death, they came out. Sehun opened the door. I shouted "Sehun good night" and "Huang Zitao take care of your body". They then got in the car, after getting into the car, Tao got his phone and placed it on the window, on it was the official photo of him and Sehun in Qingdao. 

cr: akane_summer
trans: @taohae

 

 

 

Taohun for The CELEBRIT

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I don't know, they were really close pre-debut and they managed fine enough being separated for most of 2012 (though it seemed to hit Tao harder than the other members, I remember he said the thing he missed the most while being separated in sub-units was eating a meal with Sehun).

 

But then maybe their relationship has taken a different form since then so it might be harder? Hmm, it'll be interesting nonetheless if they were to be separated. As much as I find Taohun cute though, I would really appreciate an OT6 comeback...or atleast as much time spent in China in 2014 as they did Korea in 2013 either as a sub-unit or OT12.

 

He's monitoring him? That's hella cute

 

I don't know why but I just love this gif set. It's such a great representation of their relationship

I don't think they are exactly promoted. They seems to be genuine…since the manager doesn't ship Taohun anyway:

 

I kind of doubt that SM is promoting them and they are just doing fan service….if SM is promoting them, why would Sehun say that Tao is not attractive without makeup(in a playful way though) or why would Sehun say that Tao's crying is ugly/Tao cries the most (something along those lines) in Episode 4 (er, the Christmas one)? I don't think SM would allow that if Taohun was promoted. Tao looked embarrassed, meaning that their interaction is real and they are truly close, teasing and being playful. I've never really seen Sehun and Luhan ever talk to each other or mock each other, etc, on stage, so it's obvious HunHan is not close…and are so unreal SM cannot promote them anymore. 

 

Why would SM promote Taohun, anyway? Tao is not popular in Korea nor in OneHallyu, so where's SM's purpose? SM promoted HunHan in the first place because Sehun is Exo K's visual (remember that time when Kai was considered the face and Sehun the visual) and Luhan the M's visual. Even during Exo's first ISAC, which was near the MAMA era when HunHan was still largely promoted, Taohun had had interactions already. Unless SM is promoting them because they are friends. So, case closed: Taohun is real, promoted or not promoted. :D

 

Taohun is not the only popular ship of Tao…Tao ships in general are getting popular, for example, BaekTao and Sutao. If Taohun is being promoted, then isn't Sutao promoted too? There are more Sutao and Baektao interactions in Showtime than Taohun, so is SM's new bias Tao now? Is SM actually shipping Tao with everyone? Not to mention the extreme Taoris in Episode 7. I personally think the trip to Qingdao was not a fan service thing…I don't think Tao's dad (he was there) would've approved when Sehun came to interrupt an important festival meant to be spent with the family, for solely fan service. SM wouldn't pull it that far by forcing Tao to take Sehun to his family…companies are not allowed to mess with families, I'm sure. The only thing I'm doubting about Taohun are their shopping trips and hang outs during the week. Wait, sorry, I don't doubt that either,on second thought. SM idols' free time is limited…very limited, actually. Why would SM force them to spend the whole week out together? Idols should have fun during their free time, and hang out with their closest friends. I searched every Exo otp '*otp* went shopping' and I couldn't find much from other otps…There was only one significant shopping trip of Hunhan, but with their manager. So, Taohun is not really promoted. Yet. Maybe SM sighed and finally gave up, because there are too much real Taohun interactions interrupting his Hunhan, and threw his Hunhan project away. Taohun might even be acting against SM's wishes. They are just not stopped,unlike before, now that Hunhan is abandoned. (Not bashing on Hunhan, btw.)

 

Getting off topic again. Anyway, maybe Taohun is just so real it looks like they are being promoted.

 

People mean they're promoted in the sense that they'll be the ones paired up when doing things like the sunny10 CF, the lotte mag photoshoot, the celebrity photoshoot, the community service event where there were like 48734854 pictures of Taohun doing everything together, official photos from Mnetwide using Taohun as promotion, official photos from MAMA awards of Taohun being posted etc. I mean there has literally been a ton of these official media outlets that will specifically make it a point to pair up Tao and Sehun together, which they don't really do for the any other pairings as much of (anymore atleast). Their actual interactions in these events and how they spend their downtime though, I don't think anyone thinks is not genuine. I don't think SM has anything to do with how touchy they are or how they choose to spend their time together and I don't think anyone really questions that. But it can't be a coincidence that all this Taohun in their promotional activities is happening.

 

Plus they have alot to gain from the pairing. Tao is top 2 or 3 most popular in China/Japan and has a huge fanbase in Asian countries in general, Sehun is popular enough in Korea and has gained alot of popularity in China because of his relationships with China line. Putting them together helps both crossover to their individual fandom and gain popularity in a country one half of the pair might not have as much of. That's kinda why a K/M pairing would always be preferred over an M/M or K/K pairing, it helps both members out in both countries and also feeds into the whole "We are One" thing going on. Taohun is actually really marketable for several reasons.

Yup agree with most of the things you said. The only thing that I'm concerning about when it comes to SM promotion is that it gets some hatred too and it's not like Taohun was the first established like HunHan and Taoris. With Taeny, they are already big before SM promotes them while HunHan and Taoris were also the first "royal" pairings. Another thing is, whether it's genuine relationship or not, when you know SM is pushing them, it will give off that fan service vibe to others. But it's okay, not all pairings get 100% love from fans so I shouldn't make it more difficult for myself than it already is. Just continue to like Taohun and hope that the authenticity in their relationship won't change no matter what. 

 

Yea, that's true that there are established pairings already so yes they will get hate but because those pairings have kind of died down along the years, their fans have dwindled as well and after awhile there isn't much they can do if their pairings aren't the big thing anymore. I mean Taohun's Chinese fanbase is already growing alot based on weibo eventhough they were getting some hate a month ago. After awhile, most people will jump on the bandwagon or atleast their fanbase will be so big that the minority who don't like them won't be able to do anything. Yunjae wasn't the initial pairing either, they grew for similar reasons as Taohun and now no one even remembers that other pairings were promoted before them.

 

It's easy to tell when something is too fanservicy or forced with pairings (Hunhan was unbearable for that reason imo) so I think it'll be clear if they were to force those interactions but neither seem the type to do that imo.

You guys are making me depressed as to I hate fanservice pairing. I know Taohun, from the beginning, has never done it for fanservice. I honestly feel like whatever interaction that came from them was from the bottom of their hearts. Because if you think about it, not many notice Taohun until the Idol Olympic day when they were all over each other. But then, even before that, they have always been that close. It's just because of separation that didn't allow them the opportunities. They are the close pairing of M & K. Also, the whole hunhan thing probably got them overshadowed for a long time. You're right, SM is probably thinking of pushing them to the front line now without them even knowing about it. Because if they know about it, they would start feeling conscious and their interactions will feel less genuine. I think he is targeting them to make them the "it" couple like how he does it to Taeny. Like both Taeny and Taohun are close from the beginning but with SM promotion, they will be noticed even more. Please, SM leave them alone! Don't ruin Taohun for me. I love them the way they are and just let us spot their moments instead of sharing them to everyone.

 

I don't think there is anything to worry about. Honestly, if an SM pairing goes sour, I think it has less to do with SM promoting them and more to do with the two individual's natural progression in their relationship. While SM does promote pairings, I don't think they force any of them to do anything they don't want to do nor do I think they tell them to do specific things other than just to interact together. They seem to go based on already set friendships that fans have picked up on and they just put a spotlight on it because they know it's what people want to see, but I don't think they necessarily force these pairings to interact in a way they don't want to.

 

Yunjae, Jongkey, and TaeNy pairings...if there was any riff, I sense it's mainly because something else happened in their relationship outside of any company stuff (except for the obvious reasons of Yunjae). Whereas you have Eunhae who basically ship themselves but their friendship has never changed, they were best friends from the beginning and they're still best friends now so none of the OTP stuff got in the way of their friendship. I think anything they do, they do it because fans like it and most importantly because they actually want to do it.

 

I think Taohun will be similar. They won't do anything that they don't feel like doing, but people want to see more of them so SM is putting them out there. I don't think anything in their dynamic will change because of it, just the size of the pairing fanbase will get bigger because more people notice them now. If anything does change, I think it'll be more due to fans than anything SM ever does. But I wouldn't worry about them, I don't think they'll be a time when you have to question if their actions are genuine or not when you have someone like Tao involved in a pairing. People are looking at it from the viewpoint of SM making them interact in strategic ways and I honestly think it's more they're just letting them run free and be how they always are...but with more cameras now. 

ahhh true, true.

 

it's all apart of the fanservice, and it's so sad that they try to make it forced;; basically makes a good relationship seem like a job and eventually the idols get sick of it and so do the fans - then just dying out, like hunhan did.

 

tbh i see SM's point in this, but they dont know when to draw the line ;; leavethebbiesalonetobeallfluffySM à²¥_ಥ

 

Well, the thing with Taohun is that regardless of whether they're being promoted or not, they'd be attached to the hip anyways. So with them there isn't any kind of force because they both naturally like clinging on to each other. Plus I feel like given the fact that Tao is involved, it's safer to assume that anything they do isn't for fanservice bc it's Tao and he doesn't really ever do anything that he doesn't want to do. Everything is more genuine from him, and Sehun too actually. So the way I see it, I think it's more they're bringing Taohun's natural chemistry/relationship to the forefront and giving it attention without actually telling them to change their ways...know what I mean? Like they're probably just letting Taohun do as they've always done and not change a thing, but just put a spotlight on it so more people notice instead of just a few.

 

I have to say, it's working. I feel like everyday there's an explosion of new Taohun shippers because everyday there's something new ya know?

most likely yea but this time didn't the whole of EXO participate with voluntary work at the orphanage?

 

but either way, once a pairing becomes pushed by management it always shatter to pieces and is ruined;; (￣◇￣;)/

 

Yea, but most of the other pics of the other members were of them individually whereas Taohun had alot of pictures together as a pairing...I think they may have even had the most pictures of the bunch.

 

Anyways, in their case I think they're being pushed moreso because of their natural friendship and chemistry. I think they've picked up on the fact that that people like the pairing so they're probably just using it to their advantage. Like giving people what they wanna see kind of thing. And considering every SM group has the one main OTP people go cray over, I have a feeling that they're trying to make Taohun that pairing for EXO since the whole Hunhan thing was a bust and they have more to work with here.

 

Yea, they're definitely trying to push them as a pairing for sure now. This is like the 4th or 5th media outlet that's kinda highlighted those two together in the past few weeks. 

 

Aww, that's usually a Taoris thing. Cute.

They're like peanut butter and jelly

                   cookie and cream

                   strawberry and banana

                   chocolate and vanilla

                   mac and cheese

                   milk and cereo 

 

Their relationship kinda reminds me of Heechul and Hangeng but more touchy and clingy.

I can't find anything anywhere that says Hon is leaving.

 

http://onehallyu.com/index.php?/topic/49796-mr-mrs-the-group-hon-leaves-the-group/

The intention can't justify the word choice. Good intention but wrong word choice leading to an inadvertent offense is as culpable as deliberate offense. I find it being used as an excuse for the refusal to take responsibility for your own words rather laughable. Besides, how can we always interpret the intention of the derogatory word as exactly what the speaker has in his/her mind? 

 

But if you know the person you're saying it to does not take offense to it or does not view it negatively, then how is it considered offensive? Whether someone views certain words (like bitch, queer, and fag) offensively is subjective, thus whether the word is actually offensive is subjective because everyone doesn't take certain words to mean in the literal definition. Certain words take up different meanings along the way in society.

 

You can't always interpret it but you can the majority of the time. Plus like I said, alot of the time it really depends on the context of which the word is said and by whom. Most people know when to say certain things and when not to and who they can say it to.

Have they had recent moments? I feel like I haven't seen much of them since the MAMA era (as with most Lay ships).

Just because it is socially acceptable doesn't make it right.

 

Doesn't mean it's wrong either. If the individual doesn't find it offensive, then I don't think there is anything wrong with it...that's what matters in the first place. It all depends on how you see it I guess. The offensiveness of certain terms is subjective.

 

It's like impossible for "bitch" to ever have a positive connotation because the word per se is always derogating. "Queer", on the other hand, has the original meaning of "eccentric" or "unconventional" so I guess some people like being called "queer" if they enjoy the air of esotericism. 

 

Eh, to me it's all about the intention behind it. You can change the meaning of a word through time anyways, it doesn't have to stay a derogatory term. It happens all the time in language.

LOL i just saw this

 

 

That looks so creepy.

 

But this reminds me, Tao and Tang Wei looked surprisingly good together. Weird, I didn't think I'd say that about Tao with a female. 

 

GOD HATES FRUIT, JUST LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO EVE 

 

 

 

I use it half-jokingly if I'm mildly annoyed, like "bitch please" and stuff, but never with a purely positive connotation. I just don't see the need to try to use bad words in good ways when we already have good words that work perfectly fine.

 

Interesting. Well there are certain terms that had negative connotation associated with it but have become so widely used in a more positive way that most just don't see it as offensive anymore (given the intention behind it of course). Personally, I think that's nice...to turn something negative into positive. 

 

No. I have never felt the need to say that. I suspect it comes from our different social circles. Also, if I were more active in gay culture(whatever that is) then I might be more apt to using those terms.

 

Well, it's not really a gay culture thing. It's more of a younger generation thing. Having experienced different social circles, many use terms like that on the regular because it's socially acceptable now, gay or not.

The underlying sentiment is the same either way, although calling someone a FRUIT seems to have less punch than yelling FAG at someone. And you don't see people holding up signs that say, "God hates fruits"

 

 

Yes, thank you. That is what I was trying to say. I am not a fag and my lady friends are not hags.

 

 

Uh....no.

 

Never? You've never said like "she's a bad bitch" or "that's my bitch" in the way you would say like "that's my girl/homie"?