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other sad news for the thread Yoo Ahin will probably be locked up or thrown out of the industry https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/02/10/national/socialAffairs/Yoo-Ahin-propofol-korea/20230210165815508.html

My lineup (based solely on intro vids, clips, and vibes because I haven't found time to watch) in age order w reasoning Jiwoong: the charisma, stan attractor Seunghwan: he's my age + debuted before + has lead vocal ability what more can I say? Zhang Hao: also my age + all rounder Sung Hanbin: no reason needed he's the moment Woonggi: I haven't forgotten him..if mnet doesn't rig him stans better get behind him like with baihiyyih Hiroto: he's cute and I respect his hustle Taerae: we need a main vocal and I don't want Hui in this group (especially if the maknae ends up being any younger than '03, like an 11 to 14 year age gap is beyond unserious 10 years is the max). I don't think the up10tion vocal really has a chance unfortunately. He is also under wakeone and 02 like Chaehyun so I'm already sensing a pattern. For the two maknaes any combination of: Gunwook, Gyuvin, Honghai, Yujin, Jingxiang, Haruto, Annthony is fine I don't feel strongly about anyone under 20 but I accept that some of them must debut Other trainees I like: Yechen, Matthew, Dongyeol (Xiao).

4/4 technically since this season has two centers and both are gay... it can't be helped when mnet is looking for Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent

He had a bullying scandal during the time of a lot of bullying scandals so it would have been easy to miss it. Seems like it's mostly false though? it's a he said she said thing without at lot of hard evidence on either side https://www.soompi.com/article/1534422wpp/nam-joo-hyuks-agency-responds-to-3rd-accusers-new-alleged-evidence-of-school-bullying-and-sexual-harassment-in-group-chat https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/07/dispatch-reveals-the-results-of-their-investigation-into-nam-joo-hyuks-bullying-scandal-after-interviewing-18-classmates-and-2-teachers-from-his-high-school

The 2/3 PPP (Yoon's party) Seoul City council has an absolutely batshit destantis-esqe sex education guidelines they are trying to push through. Teachers have to teach that there can be no sex outside of marriage between husband and wife and ofc that gender cannot be self-determined. That's bad enough but the insane thing is that they plan on creating a official whose job it is to examine the sex lives of grown-ass teachers and make sure they aren't having sex outside of marriage. https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2023/02/113_344655.html

kids younger than 13 shouldn't have smartphones

yeah those are the two most popular ships internationally as well. Mingyu/Wonwoo (Meanie) reached a point of popularity in the early days that Wonwoo explicitly said it made him uncomfortable, that he sees Gyu as a baby brother, and it lead to them distancing from each other in public. Mingyu and Minghao started getting really close instead around that time. None of this ever slowed the shipping down so ig they just reached a point of acceptance and they hang out normally now. The reason people ship them is mostly because they're two masc(ish) guys who are close and fit a ton of ship tropes: cat person/dog person, short(er) grumpy one/tall happy one, nerd/jock, etc. The ship seems mostly confined to fanfic these days with relatively few shippers (that I've seen) actually believing they are together. Vernon/Seungkwan by comparison has a lot more shippers who believe they're real. They've been attached to the hip since trainees days and there are lots of clips of them as little middle schoolers being super cuddly with each other and even one supposedly of them almost kissing, etc. Seungkwan always talks about how cute and adorable Vernon was back then and even users on here think Vernon might have been Seungkwan's first gay crush and of course they are still super close so people are going to keep shipping them. Vernon is probably the Seventeen member Seungkwan compliments the most appearance wise and Vernon does the most skinship with Seungkwan.

Does commenter #5 not realize that 2/3 of those features have been the trend across modeling for years... complaining about a fashion model having high cheekbones feels the same as complaining about them being tall (do westerners think all korean women are 5'8 minimum now? lol). You can especially see it when she's with other models if you think she's noticeably uglier than the 'western' models that's on your own standards

Vuitton, Dior, Givenchy collect your coins Nayeon-ssi

damn what's with these veteran idols getting new operations after years of basically no changes and not even just the supposed "anti-aging" stuff you'd expect...before I feel like fans mainly had to worry about trainees or rookies coming back with new faces but now it's anyone. You'd think these celebs after all these years of being famous would know for every bad comment there's a thousand people who find their features attractive as is. I don't remember ever seeing a single comment about Tiffany's nose until she changed it. Apart from a small nose job years ago Onew has barely touched his face throughout his entire career and was praised for having a boy next door/babyfaced/actor look and was one of the most popular among korean women until his scandal so clearly his face was never an issue until now... Whatever he did just made him look older and more 'idol-like' both of which are the exact opposite of what made his visuals popular. It's been said before but in previous gens I feel plastic surgery was mostly to correct obvious features the went against the k-beauty standard monolids = get double eyelids (unless you're a man then maybe you can keep them), flat and wide nose = make it sharper, square jaw = shave it. It was still terrible but made sense now it feels like updates just for the sake of updates...

This exact same rumor happened the first season of broduce not saying it can't be true twice when you get 100 or so male dancers in a room but I thought I'd point it out

Can't confirm because I don't have insta but apparently Jhope has started hanging with some of Key's circle of friends so take that as you will.

generally? the thread is this TXT Soobin = Gay The rest = war BTS All members = war

idk I think if the oec girls looked for a company together they could pull a viviz with a smaller company especially if they got rights to the oec name, they're probably the most popular of the Loona units.

Here are my thoughts about 4th gen girl groups since I've seen others on the thread posting them, keep in mind I don't hardcore stan any of them. Itzy Ryujin: bi not because of the Haechan rumors or whatever it's just the vibe I get from her, I used to think she was straight but her recent antics convinced me she likes women. Yeji: idk could be anything Lia, Chaeryeong, Yuna: straight Everglow Mia: Lesbian The rest: straight Aespa Karina and Winter: possibly wlw but I don't feel strongly about it Giselle and Ningning: straight Stayc Sumin, Seeun, Yoon: potential gays Sieun, Isa, J: probable straights Weeekly Jihan: potential gay The rest: idk Jiyoon was the only one who felt strongly wlw to me IVE Yujin: lesbian Rei and Liz: maybe bi Wonyoung, Gaeul, Leeseo: straight and in Leeseo's case baby Purple Kiss All of them expect Swan I think could be gay or bi, but they could be just leaning into gay stuff as Mamamoo's sistar group. Billlie Moon Sua and Haram: lesbians The rest: idk I haven't looked into nmixx at all and newjeans are all babies Minji, Hanni, and Haerin seem like they'll have the most wlw fans but that doesn't say much about them personally.

yeah I debated putting her the bi category but I just went with my first instinct, the line between 'bi girl who recently discovered she likes girls thanks to lesbian friends' and 'straight girl ally who seems gay due to hanging out with lesbian friends' is a difficult one lol

has anyone posted about Exy with actress Han Soeun they filmed a webdrama together and became really close anyways for me Exy, Seola, Eunseo, and Luda are the lesbians in wjsn. idk/possibly bi: Yeonjung, Yeoreum straight: Bona, Dayoung, Soobin, Dawon

according to international moas on twitter Rakta (the stylist) has been the target of harassment by k-moas for homophobic reasons relating to the genderless styling choices with txt and how it's "ruining their image" and "making them seem gay" and also painting her as a creep for the more risque outfits despite the fact that they are all adults. Essentially fans who want them to have the schoolboy image forever. The fact that she seems to genuinely get along with the members also makes them fume. It doesn't help that she's apparently openly queer herself saying she likes women (I would assume she's bisexual if she's dating Vernon). The 'war with fans' referenced in the comments is essentially just her defending her artistic choices. Again this is just according to intl fans who seem ride-or-die for her and it's possible they are misrepresenting the reason for the hate. But anyways all this means she has a bigger target on her back than a normal stylist would so kmoas who were watching her insta like a hawk probably noticed first and spread the news to obsessive k-carats or vice-versa.

I could see it Mina and Jeno dating rumors started because they supposedly follow each other on steam

the revised South Korean curriculum removes the phrases 'sexual minorities', 'sexuality', and 'gender equality'. https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1073604.html

The general opinion (that I agree with) is that the k-line is potentially gay while the foreign line is straight. I'd say Karina is more likely to be gay than Winter due to her fangirl habits and general vibe. tbh Ningning and Giselle give me 'boy crazy' vibes and I mean that in a fun way as in they aren't the traditional and repressed kind of straight girls that you see a lot, I see both collecting a lot of gay friends in the future.