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  1. Yes always hoping for the best lol I hope 2017 will be so good on us my gosh 2016 2nd half is too much. :derp:

     

    And yes I feel like next year is really the year where WINNER really need to stabilize everything, fandom, public recognition etc. so they can be assured that the next year that will come they can still soar higher and maybe be on the top. They already spent so much time away from the public and fans OTL

    Yeah I hope so too, they need a good year next year they have already suffered enough

  2. If YG ever has another survival their building is gonna be incinerated by fans.

    I'll check Kshow!! I wanted to watch it tonight still

     

     

    With MOBB? Really? That would have been... interesting. Poor boy. Yg must not be impressed with him. I went to listen to turtleship because of IC, he was killing it in that song. I really considered watching smtm5 because of him. I wanted to root for our next YG boy... lol I never got myself to it tho. I don't really care for rap that much

    Well when the collab between them was first announced One was also part of it but suddenly he was not part of it any longer months later when it was brought up again, don't know what happened since I don't follow him that much

  3. I honestly never thought of a 2 comebacks for WINNER next year as a possibility, yg made me jaded OTL One of my guess is a pre-release and album afterwards but I think your right. If yg is really serious in rebuilding Winner's momentum he need to make them as visible as possible in yg way of course lol

    Well it's pretty much hoping for the best lol, the likelihood of YG executing this is higher then usual because they feel the fire under their seat now that they can't just throw it on Taehyun plus time is ticking for Winner to stabilize what status they will reach but its YG we are talking about so it's best to expect the least although it won't stop be from being disappointed if next year is truly wasted

     One is not locked up. He went to smtm twice didn't he? He probably ha contacs already, and he is not anonimous

    Has he released an album? wasn't he suppose to debut with Mino and Bobby in Mobb  :lol:

  4. relatable 

     

     whaaaat You had a gif of the emoji I used!!!

     

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    I wonder if he gets royalties for using his photo  :imstupid:

     

    Bang Yedam OMG where is he tho? what is he doing in YGE poor kid.  :rlytearpls:

    He's like 13 right? he has plenty of time before his group debuts, he's probably figured a way to get on YG's good side after all these years of being there  :lol:

  5. omg Hoon's show is in basically tomarrow in Korea!!!!!!!!

     

    What special? edit: ohh the Rappers special.... I did not know they would haave a concert. Is that official?

     

    About that pic since it was brought up again, what if it's a Mama surprise stage they are planning?? :derp:  :derp:  :derp:

    lol

    But it clearly read only WIN and a big space after the N. It doesn't read Winner, but the word WIN can only be associated with two YG groups, mostly Winner.

    edit again: notice the frame of that image, it's like in mvs and movies

    Does anyone want to speculate just for fun?

     

     I say another survival for the remaining trainees  :troll:  

     

    Do you know around what time we could have subs for flower crew? I don't know where to wait for that

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  6. I think they need to have 2 comebacks next year.  One in March or earlier and one late Summer imo, it doesn't have to be a full album for the first one it could be a single or a mini but they have no time to waste they have to catch up their momentum.  If YG is serious about Winner no way they have a comeback second half without anything before that but I would not be surprised if that ends up being the case  :lol: at the very least if it is one comeback he needs to keep promoting them like we are starting to see now 

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  7.  

    I know I'm experienced it too with SN5D after a member left, the girls haven't talked about her yet until now.

     

    What I wish is... the boys will still be in good terms with each other even though they don't talk about it in any interviews.....

     

     

    Since idols have to stay pretty filtered it makes sense why they don't talk about such things but I do hope it's different for Winner because I want to know how they feel but at the same time I don't want to know because I'm afraid it's not pleasant :unsure: .

     

    Me too I just hope they are ok with each other and don't have bad vibes because it's already bad enough he's gone it would even worse if they left off on a bad note.

     

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  8. considering Bom was out of 2NE1 since May but we only found out two days ago, it very well could be the same for Taehyun. 

    i've said it before on here/when talking to people from this thread but i sensed something was off since ~the release of E... even in HMF, Taehyun was barely with the others, always staying with Hayul, never participating to activities... I already found it strange back then but now even more. 

    and I don't believe YG forced him out of Winner either considering Taehyun was clearly his favorite in Winner (unless he did something really wrong that we don't know of). 

    either way, Taehyun's next moves and the members next interviews will probably say a lot.

    I think as time passes we will find little by little more about it maybe not from them directly but just passing references here and there.  I would be very surprised to see them straight out speak about it. 

  9. who knows tbh but him unfollowing all the members on instagram + deleting all winner pics on his insta + the members never mentioning taehyun ever again since even before the 1st statement of YG + they haven't been seen together for months + no mention of them in his letter (especially this one)... idk? it just seems like something is off

    It did feel like something was off for the last couple months but I never gave it much thought, At first when I first saw that he started unfollowing them I just thought it was his usual pattern but it does make more sense now.  Winnercity's activities are the most suspicious since they haven't said a word about him for awhile which leads me to believe Taehyun has been out of Winner for awhile now  :._.:

  10. I think that might just be speculation by the article author since it's not been confirmed any where else. It feels to me like anxiety, panic disorder, depression are just more commonly accepted or more known about they seem to crop up a lot in relation to mental health.

     

    I think he should take his time to really attract a bigger audience and build his profile. Also taking into account his health it's better to start in an environment that is more flexible that he can have full control of. He seems to be really good when it comes to social media and communicating with fans that way so maybe he can start there. Continue with his soundcloud to experiment freely with more sounds and maybe follow his brother and open a Youtube account. I think that way he can continue to gain fans but without strict schedules, contract limitations or high expectations. Then once he's comfortable enough and has a better idea what directions works well for him, he can start to look at developing his career further and in the right place. Wherever he goes I hope it's an environment that is supportive, respectful and allows him freedom and space.

    This would be the best approach, jumping right back into company pressures may not be the best move right now, building up his cred as an artist would be good, Korea has a good indie scene so I think someone of his style will find a home no matter what.  

  11. Maknae's letter raises a lot more questions then answers for me, it just made this more grey then clear.  I'm suspicious of how exactly he truly left, anyhow I'm happy that he will greet us with some new music knowing his work ethic as a producer I'm sure it will be a fantastic album I don't know whether he will sign with a label or go full indie but whichever he does hope he finds  success. 

  12. I could rebate that in many different ways but well, it's not like it's a bad though, so go head and keep wishing.

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    Guys, do you think that the other members are going to keep quiet forever? I mean, I know they are obligated to keep silence but I would really love if they, at least, mentioned him even in a slight way because if they ignore him or not mentioning Taehyun would feel really bad.

     

    And Mino just went to film (but they knew since long time ago.... so it's not like he is surprised, that fase pased for them)

    I hope they talk about it, I would be sad if it went by like he was never there but then again they might never flat out mention him again which would be crushing.  Maybe some passing references here and there, it seems like they have to move on with their own work which sucks because I would want to hear everyone's unfiltered thoughts on it.

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  13. Hi everyone, I just came back from work and I've been thinking about what happened all day long (the news dropped 5 minutes before I had to go to work). I was expecting something like this for quite a while, still wishing it would not happen... I'm so devastated that Taehyun won't be a part of WINNER anymore. 

     

    The concept of WINNER as 4 is so strange to me I can't even grasp it at the moment. I can't imagine WINNER songs without Tae's voice in them. He is/was (so hard to use past tense in this) such a huge influence on WINNER's sound, I don't even know what to expect now that he won't produce any WINNER songs anymore. At one point today I was wishing that YG would let him become a YG producer so that we would still get to hear some of his songs, but no. He's not part of YG anymore either.

     

    I'm so sad for Taehyun & for WINNER. I wish Taehyun all the best in the future and hope to see him back on stage, singing his songs as a solo independent artist one day.

     

    To be honest I'm a bit scared of what will happen to Yoon, Mino, Hoon & Jinwoo now. This is a huge blow, especially for a group that never promoted properly to begin with and never got the chance to grow a big fandom. And with what happened to "2NE1 will continue as 3 members", I'm afraid of what will happen to "WINNER will continue as 4 members".

     

    I can't comprehend how YG keeps on ruining every single one of his artists. Today is devastating. My ultimate girl group is disbanding and one member of my ultimate boy group is leaving the group. Talk about an incompetent *insert curse words* company.

     

    :rlytearpls:  :rlytearpls:  :rlytearpls:

    Taehyun's influence on the sound of the group has been big especially E obviously not on the same level but to compare to one of my favorite bands Pink Floyd, when a member by the name of Syd Barrett left the group their sound changed pretty drastically but because other members were strong enough musically they continue to have success without his influence.   I hope Taehyun and Winner both get massive in their respective careers and one day even compete for big awards  :rlytearpls: wishful thinking OT5 get together for a world tour at some point if they are big enough)

  14. I dont even know how's the group chat right now. I still remember when Taehyun innocently asked Seungyoon in his IG about that EXIT poster, not knowing anything. JinHoon probably just calm Seungyoon downs. His responsibility tho, how can YG let his greed to these 5 people, they don't deserve this. Now, I need that WINNER japan dvd. I need it so much. 

     

    I still remember Mino wants KangNam unit too. No jam sessions for real. Seungyoon is gonna be leadder, main vocal, and maknae?  :rlytearpls:

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  15. I can't imagine if that's the case. I sort of think of how the situation was for the group when they found out that Taehyun is leaving. Seungyoon is probably the most heartbroken. 

    Yeah it was just an "if" I hope YG isn't that dirty of a company.  I'm not sure but it must have been tough, who is Yoon going to play guitar and have jam sessions with now  :rlytearpls:  :rlytearpls:

  16. I heartbroken, my two favourite groups are suffering right now. 2NE1 the first group that I really loved and WINNER the first group that stole my heart right away with their music. I feel sad, because there's no more OT5, Nammie was never my bias, but I love him so much, I respect him so much and admire him so much because he is so passionate about what he loves and in a way I can see myself in him. I never blamed him and now I don't blame him either. I really hope he is feeling better right now, I hope that the weight that he had in his shoulders has disappeared, The priority is his mental health and I wish him a slow but successful recovery. I cried a little because I think in the boys and they don't deserve this, they are talented and hardworking, but life is like this...

     

    Good things will come, I know! I will support all of them no matter what. Nammie, be happy, WINNER, stay strong.

     

    Forever an INNER CIRCLE. I love you, fandom. All of you are the best.

    In it together 

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    you know what, I know that a fandom will always have different opinions because of course we're all different individuals and we will have different mindset and view on this situation but i'm honestly glad that at as of now all the winner fans/ Incles I encountered and even our fansites intl. or korean all acknowleged that WINNER is 5 and no member need our resentment but instead our love and support. Of course there still the presence of uglies within the fandom, no need to mention outsiders, but i'm glad we're at least handling this the best we can. Thank you to them and of course to all the lovely people here in this thread and in OH.

    The unity in the fandom atm is really heartwarming 

     

    Why is multi-quoting not an option on oh?

     

    To address what I've brought up, having the big 3's power as a back up will always be an attractive aspect and that's not going to change in the long run since they still practically have a monopoly of the industry but can we look at how all of this benefitted winner?

    In almost 3 years, Winner collectively has less than 30 songs, has been severely underpromoted to the point that its criminal. Due to the lack of music output, it has put a strain on all of their mental and physical health. TAEHYUN LEFT!

    If they're not working in a blossoming, inspiring & healthy condition then why would you encourage them to stay in yge?

     

    What is it about the big 3 status that is convincing some of you, its better than taking a leap of faith and put their trust somewhere else where they can finally release music??

    Yes yg has the financial and brand power that others might lack but i'm not sure how all of that has done a lot of good for winner.

    And its sad that you would have so little faith in them to succeed on their own feet.

    Sorry i'm getting wary and aggressive but yge is a toxic environment and winner staying there any longer pains me.

     

    Besides have you's seen how well some small companies are promoting their groups? Take a look at b t s and gf. Prime examples of great management in combination with the group efforts.

     

     

    @hugeboiwife I butchered your name sorry.

    Mystic would be a good alternative, YJS has connections and all in all, they promote their artists quite well, problem is I don't know how well they'll manage idol groups.

    Idol groups require more aggressive promos and you'd need experienced people to make informed decisions.

    7seasons is still small and while they do a fantastic job with bb, i have doubts whether they have the financial capital to spend on a 2nd group.

    Its natural yous would worry about BH, they're not even in the process of making junior groups aka b t s is still their prime focus. If winner were sign with bh, would they receive equal love? Maybe not. Most of the workers there have been there since b*s's early days, it'd be natural for them to heavily lean towards b t s but guys, that still means winner would be the 2nd group in bh? Thats already more than the share winner gets under yg.

    BH is also composed of very business savvy individuals with lots of external connections, it would benefit winner a lot. Ya also don't have to worry about minimal fan contents because they suck your wallets dry with that stuff.

     

    Anyway feel free to disagree

     

     

    For me personally leaving is not the problem but the possible things YG could do if they do indeed leave, if they were willing to do this to Taehyun image what they could do to Winner, they could indeed end up like Block B that is indeed true and over time small companies seem to be rising but It could also not work, not because of music, not talent but other factors outside their hands and that is also a possibility and why I am hesitant to have them all leave together to a company that YG could push around with influence.

     

    The other 4 have stayed for whatever reason, they must have some sort of reason, maybe they were threatened if they leave or maybe promised promotion we will never know.   If I take away all outside factors and I just state what  I would like, I want them to leave to a company that can promote them, a company that lets them create while not putting them down, a company that appreciates the talent in there hands and I want the same for Taehyun but it's not that easy most of the time. 

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